Are you excited about Trump's administration failing and, therefore, Americans suffering?

[phoenix2020]

A couple of people have announced that they're looking forward to the downfall of the economy, education, etc. during the Trump administration. Are you?

I am not excited by the idea and indeed rather depressed by it. However, I have to be pragmatic about two things:

1. It’s likely to happen so taking steps to protect me and mine is the first priority. Are there millions of Trump voters who are now going to experience some tough times? Of course. But I can’t be thinking about them since they made their bed and now they have to sleep in it. I will focus on my own interests, and if it means profiting off their suffering during the next few years, I can live with that.

2. Americans clearly have issues with short term memory and perhaps need to be taught some lessons. Millions of people with special needs children voted for Trump who vowed to take away their children’s education. Well, great. Let’s do it. I want these people to experience the full effect of Trump’s policies first hand, I want them to live it. I want them to experience what it’s like to watch as their friends and family members are rounded up and sent to deportation camps because they weren’t carrying ID at the time they were stopped at a checkpoint or in their workplace. I want them to experience what it’s like to see the prices of all their goods hiked up. I want them to experience what it’s like to be fired from their job because of policies that were the direct consequence of their vote. Then, perhaps next time they’ll vote in a more informed manner.

Americans by and large have it easy. We haven’t experienced real suffering in a long time. We haven’t experienced war on our home soil and mass destruction of our own infrastructure in over 150 years, so we tend to get whiny about little things and it influences us to make poor voting choices—and living choices. I thought a million people dead from COVID might be a harsh enough lessons, but clearly it was not and something stronger will be needed.

I’m not excited by the prospect of Trump’s 2nd administration teaching us that lesson, but that doesn’t mean it’s a lesson we don’t need to be taught. We probably do.

 

[watsup]

A couple of people have announced that they're looking forward to the downfall of the economy, education, etc. during the Trump administration. Are you?

It would be the exact opposite of the OP title. Trump failing (to take away Medicare and Social Security, and failing to exact revenge on his opponents by using the Justice Dept, etc etc etc) would result in SAVING American from suffering.

 

[Bodecea]

A couple of people have announced that they're looking forward to the downfall of the economy, education, etc. during the Trump administration. Are you?

"Excited" is the wrong word. "Expecting" is the correct word.

 

[Bodecea]

Are you excited about it not ending well?

"Excited" isn't the correct word. "Expecting" is the correct word.

 

[phoenix2020]

"Excited" isn't the correct word. "Expecting" is the correct word.

What most Americans should be doing at the moment is preparing.

 

[Josie]

"Excited" isn't the correct word. "Expecting" is the correct word.

Sure. You're expecting it to not end well. How you feel about it not ending well is something different and the question that's being asked.

 

[phoenix2020]

Sure. You're expecting it to not end well. How you feel about it not ending well is something different and the question that's being asked.

If that were the question, then you would have had a more expansive list of poll options describing many different kinds of feelings from excitement to resignation to anger to frustration.

 

[Bodecea]

Most definitely. But these people are looking forward to it. I think that's pretty gross.

Who are "these people"?

 

[Bodecea]

Apparently, (despite the pandemic related mess) it ended well enough to get Trump re-elected.

A rightwing full of Dories.

 

[Bodecea]

Sure. You're expecting it to not end well. How you feel about it not ending well is something different and the question that's being asked.

Ask me how I feel after it doesn't end well. Ok?

 

[Bodecea]

What most Americans should be doing at the moment is preparing.

We are preparing.....

 

[jaypatriot]

How many conservatives, Trump supporters wanted Joe Biden to succeed as President or did they want him to fail? How many in the GOP over the last four years condemned or stated Bien's policies are bad for America?

I do not want any President to fail. I may question some policies or not want certain objectives to be accomplished by a President. That does not mean I want any President to fail.
Can you say the same thing that you did not want President Biden to fail?

Biden had no problem failing all by himself.
He failed because he didn't drop out of the race earlier.
And he failed because he wanted to give away $1.9 trillion in 2021 just to make people better and he wound up driving inflation up to NINE PERCENT!!
And I'm glad he waited as long as he did to drop out of the race.
Made it easier for Trump.

 

[jaypatriot]

I posted real scenarios, likely scenarios even given Trump’s statements about his actions on day one. And you went absurd to refuse to answer them, again trying to spin it.

Only in Trump Fanboy Land is it worse to laugh at the harm than cause the harm. It would seem to me that it would be worse to cause the harm. But hey, we are dealing with Fanboys.

Trump’s Tariffs will cause harm to the people of America. Even you guys on the Right admit that, but you proclaim that the other nations will suffer more. That’s idiotic. That’s like telling someone you ran over that they’re lucky they got a broken leg, because the other guy near him got a broken back.

I mean it is laughable. And I I tend to laugh at stupidity. I’m a firm supporter of FA & FO. I laugh at those who despite warnings decide to FA when they FO.

In your world I’m the bad guy. I can cause no harm to anyone with those policies. I’m not the one trying to make oil and lumber more expensive. I’m not the one who is trying to make cars and car parts more expensive. It’s the fellow you support who is. And not only don’t you care, you support it. I’ve got my popcorn and I’m looking forward to the show.

I posted absurd scenarios in response to your absurd, sophomoric questions.
You don't know what's going to happen in the next couple of years just as I don't.
I just don't waste time writing like a Jeremiah and spouting gloom-and-doom projections.
I want to give Trump a chance to see what he can do.

 

[Absentglare]

Sure. You're expecting it to not end well. How you feel about it not ending well is something different and the question that's being asked.

 

[phoenix2020]

I posted absurd scenarios in response to your absurd, sophomoric questions.
You don't know what's going to happen in the next couple of years just as I don't.
I just don't waste time writing like a Jeremiah and spouting gloom-and-doom projections.
I want to give Trump a chance to see what he can do.

Why would anybody care? I mean, you literally think that Obama is a closet Muslim.

 

[mike2810]

Biden had no problem failing all by himself.
He failed because he didn't drop out of the race earlier.
And he failed because he wanted to give away $1.9 trillion in 2021 just to make people better and he wound up driving inflation up to NINE PERCENT!!
And I'm glad he waited as long as he did to drop out of the race.
Made it easier for Trump.

Interesting. That is not answering the question. The question was how many conservatives wanted Biden to fail.
It has nothing to do if you believe Biden failed all by himself. Bet you wanted Biden to fail.

Try answering the question again without a spin.

 

[SavannahMann]

I posted absurd scenarios in response to your absurd, sophomoric questions.
You don't know what's going to happen in the next couple of years just as I don't.
I just don't waste time writing like a Jeremiah and spouting gloom-and-doom projections.
I want to give Trump a chance to see what he can do.

Interesting. The Congressional Budget Office takes projections and proposals and calculates the probable effect. Depending on what they say, one side or the other denounces them as wrong.

But for me to post the opinion of economists who consider the effect of Trump Tariffs, that is “sophomoric” according to you.

Ok. Trump slaps tariffs on in violation of the USMCA treaty he negotiated and signed. What will be the effect? Today Trump did an interview and again pledged to slap the Tariffs on Canada, and Mexico, on day one. So am I sophomoric for believing Trump when he says what he will do? Or am I sophomoric for understanding that these tariffs will have a negative effect on the economy?

Of am I bad guy who is anticipating the wails of grief from the Fanboys when inflation rises by huge margins?

 

[Bodecea]

Biden had no problem failing all by himself.
He failed because he didn't drop out of the race earlier.
And he failed because he wanted to give away $1.9 trillion in 2021 just to make people better and he wound up driving inflation up to NINE PERCENT!!
And I'm glad he waited as long as he did to drop out of the race.
Made it easier for Trump.

Biden Biden Biden.


Don't vote for him again, ok?

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Trump is already making things better than the installed puppet that's on his way out !

Things are going to get FAR Better for America and everyone knows it!
Things will most likely get better for the whole world after biden/the DEM's are gone and Trump gets in!
Just like it was when Trump was in last time !

Your options for answers are not good!

It's like asking :
"Does your mom know you're Stupid? Yes or No ......."

 

[yankintx]

I hoped he'd be a moderate president that would work hard on bringing Americans together and guide us past Covid. I didn't detest Biden like I did Hillary. For the same reason I hoped DeSantis or Haley would win the nomination because of the division a Trump administration causes over those two. My greatest worry even in the debate was that Biden would open the border because his party made that a huge deal. They claimed a fence was racist. That everything Trump did on the border was illegal or immoral. You might say Covid was Trumps downfall but Trump didn't invent Covid in the white house and let it out to infect people. The problem with the border was totally self-inflicted wound. Yet there response for three years was the border is secure and closed. They never attempted to justify why they did it.

Had Hillary won in 2016 I'd probably have a serious case of HDS Hillary Derangement Syndrome.

Trumps biggest black mark, Jan 6, 2021.

Unforgivable

 

[yankintx]

Biden Biden Biden.


Don't vote for him again, ok?

Is Biden responsible for the World Wide inflation post Covid, MAGAS have a very narrow view. The post COVID recession inflation was not restricted to the US borders.

Trump convinced MANY that Biden was solely responsible

 

[jaypatriot]

Trumps biggest black mark, Jan 6, 2021.

Unforgivable

Apparently, the voters forgave him.
What else matters?
Your DP vote?

 

[jaypatriot]

Biden Biden Biden.


Don't vote for him again, ok?

Never voted for Biden.
And never voted for Trump.

 

[jaypatriot]

Interesting. The Congressional Budget Office takes projections and proposals and calculates the probable effect. Depending on what they say, one side or the other denounces them as wrong.

But for me to post the opinion of economists who consider the effect of Trump Tariffs, that is “sophomoric” according to you.

Ok. Trump slaps tariffs on in violation of the USMCA treaty he negotiated and signed. What will be the effect? Today Trump did an interview and again pledged to slap the Tariffs on Canada, and Mexico, on day one. So am I sophomoric for believing Trump when he says what he will do? Or am I sophomoric for understanding that these tariffs will have a negative effect on the economy?

Of am I bad guy who is anticipating the wails of grief from the Fanboys when inflation rises by huge margins?

Again, you don't know what effect tariffs will have on the economy.
If the threat of tariffs is a negotiating move and it is to our benefit, then is that a bad or a good thing for our country?

 

[jaypatriot]

Interesting. That is not answering the question. The question was how many conservatives wanted Biden to fail.
It has nothing to do if you believe Biden failed all by himself. Bet you wanted Biden to fail.

Try answering the question again without a spin.

Whether I want Biden to fail is immaterial.
I wanted him to lose the election. Kamala helped us do that.
That is what mattered.