Are you concerned about where the loyalty is of Muslems serving in the Military?

[conserv.pat15]

Wow....sadder words I've never heard. MAN is dangerous. His religion matters not. You're either born a murderer or you're not. All religion does is determine which side you'll most likely be on. The IRA, Freedomites, God's Army. All terrorist groups. All Christians. To say that they're less dangerous just cause they're Christian is a sign of ignorance.

Christians do not murder people in the name of their religion. Muslims do.

Do you think Christians are more dangerous than Muslims?

 

[conserv.pat15]

do you think all that infighting between the protestants and catholics was due to muslims? I'll bet you can even name a few bombings in the good old U S of A that were carried out by christians. How about the IRA?


google christian terrorists you'll get [SIZE=-1]2,030,000 hits. [/SIZE]

What Christians are murdering people in the name of their religion?

 

[Kandahar]

Do you think Christians are more dangerous than Muslims?

In the US military? Statistics would suggest that, yes, they are. Navy Pride was able to cite ONE example of a Muslim soldier in the US military committing an atrocity in Iraq. I can cite several examples of white trash rednecks committing atrocities.

 

[conserv.pat15]

In the US military? Statistics would suggest that, yes, they are. Navy Pride was able to cite ONE example of a Muslim soldier in the US military committing an atrocity in Iraq. I can cite several examples of white trash rednecks committing atrocities.

Are these rednecks killing in the name of their religion?

 

[Kandahar]

Are these rednecks killing in the name of their religion?

No. Are any Muslims in the US military killing in the name of their religion, apart from this single example?

 

[Pull My Finger]

Christians do not murder people in the name of their religion.

:rofl!!!!!!!!!

 

[conserv.pat15]

No. Are any Muslims in the US military killing in the name of their religion, apart from this single example?

Then your redneck example is irrelevant to this thread.

The reason Muslims can not be trusted is because we are fighting against Muslims.

 

[conserv.pat15]

:rofl!!!!!!!!!

Can you name the Christians who are currently going around murdering people in the name of their own religion?

 

[Kandahar]

Then your redneck example is irrelevant to this thread.

The reason Muslims can not be trusted is because we are fighting against Muslims.

That's ridiculous. Muslims who join the US military are exactly the kind of people we should be ENCOURAGING in the Muslim community. The Muslim community has (justifiably) been subject to suspicion because of their lack of a strong stance against terrorism. What's a better way for them to show that they're against terrorism than by joining the US military and personally risking their lives fighting terrorists?

I'm shocked that you and NP are so quick to degrade the contributions of our troops.

 

[conserv.pat15]

That's ridiculous. Muslims who join the US military are exactly the kind of people we should be ENCOURAGING in the Muslim community. The Muslim community has (justifiably) been subject to suspicion because of their lack of a strong stance against terrorism. What's a better way for them to show that they're against terrorism than by joining the US military and personally risking their lives fighting terrorists?

We have to question their loyalty because many Muslims hate the United States.

I'm shocked that you and NP are so quick to degrade the contributions of our troops.

Nice spin.

 

[Kandahar]

We have to question their loyalty because many Muslims hate the United States.

So far you guys have failed to produce ANY evidence that many Muslims in the military hate the United States.

 

[dragonslayer]

Hmmm 3 no votes all left wing "feel good liberals" who are not in the military......I guess I should have asked the question of guys in the military or veterans...

You are nit picking, and rabble rousing. There have been several people brought up devulging classified information that were not moslems, in the last year.

We need to be be watchful of any people in the military, who work with classified information. Muslem, Jew, Hindu, or christian.

 

[dragonslayer]

Then your redneck example is irrelevant to this thread.

The reason Muslims can not be trusted is because we are fighting against Muslims.

We are not fighting against Muslem Americans. We are fighting now against muslems who have reacted badly to our aggression in Iraq.

 

[Iriemon]

That's ridiculous. Muslims who join the US military are exactly the kind of people we should be ENCOURAGING in the Muslim community. The Muslim community has (justifiably) been subject to suspicion because of their lack of a strong stance against terrorism. What's a better way for them to show that they're against terrorism than by joining the US military and personally risking their lives fighting terrorists?

I'm shocked that you and NP are so quick to degrade the contributions of our troops.

Not only that, but if we have troops in a Muslim country the best thing we could have would be Muslim soldiers with our troops there, in terms of relating to the local population.

 

[Hatuey]

Christians do not murder people in the name of their religion. Muslims do.

Seriously. Conserv.pat15. Are you 15? Because you sure sound like somebody who has no clue about the world or has been sheltered most of his life. You're being naive :

Paul Jennings Hill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

James Charles Kopp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eric Robert Rudolph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There you have it. Christians killing people in the name of religion. Game over? I think so. Now go off and inform yourself.

Do you think Christians are more dangerous than Muslims?

I think all men are dangerous. Religion is irrelevant. All it does is determine which side you'll be on.

 

[Pull My Finger]

Can you name the Christians who are currently going around murdering people in the name of their own religion?

Depending on how you take this whole spin on the war, technically anyone fighting the terrorists (and christian)are.
Bush has stated that this war is 'the ideological struggle of the 21st century" (gives me hitler shivers). Amongst other things we are supposedly fighting radical Islam. This brings religion into play...

Overall, relegion is responsible for more wars/deaths than any other reason - christians included.

Peace

 

[26 X World Champs]

Its easy for you to say...Your not in the military .you were not killed or injured when some nut job Islamic radical rolled gernades into your tent.............sad.............

Let me see if I understand your "logic" Navy Pride. One soldier who happens to be Muslim commits murder the week after the war started (in Kuwait, not Iraq) and therefore you think ALL MUSLIMS should be banned from the Military? Is that your point Navy Pride?

On the other hand the soldiers who killed an entire Iraqi family and raped their 14 year old daughter plus the soldiers who were responsible for Abu Ghraib do NOT represent the same threat because their religion is not Muslim? Is that it?

The fact that you refuse to spell Muslim properly combined with your previous countless posts that infer that all Muslims are evil (you even get great joy in calling Obama "Hussein" proves to me without a shadow of a doubt that you're prejudiced and yes, bigoted against Muslims (like you are against Gays).

Fortunately your white supremacist style polls are not mainstream in this or any other community as is born out by the results of your poll (19-3 say NO at this moment).

Muslim is not a hard word to learn to spell....It's outrageously bigoted of you to write Moslem on purpose the way you do, though it is par for the course.

 

[Hatuey]

Fortunately your white supremacist style polls are not mainstream in this or any other community as is born out by the results of your poll (19-3 say NO at this moment).

Champs...Navy's posts don't have a single cells of white supremacy in them. Not even close. He just has a different way of viewing things and we should respect that. If he decides to debate, debate back but saying he has any connection to "white supremacy" sounds wrong.

 

[Tashah]

Moderator's Warning:

At face value, the Poll question is somewhat benign. It has become clear by subsequent posts however, that some posters are simply using this gambit as a token convenience to disparage all Muslims... military and non-military alike. Stop the broad-brush bashing or risk the consequences.

 

[26 X World Champs]

I voted yes. I would not be able to trust a Muslim in the military. "Moderate Muslims" do nothing about stopping terrorism.

That would therefore make you a bigot against Muslims! Good job! At least you're honest about it...though if you would take 5 minutes to think about it just maybe you'd realize how foolish your post reads?

 

[26 X World Champs]

What Christians in the military are killing innocent people in the name of their religion?

What Muslims in the Military are killing innocent people in the name of their religion?

I do ask that you think about what you're writing because these posts so far have been heavy duty bigoted. You are aware that you're writing prejudiced posts?

 

[26 X World Champs]

Amen my friend Amen and I believe the 8 people that voted no if they were really honest would vote the same way.......

Sorry Navy Pride but despite what you're mind is telling you the strong, strong majority of people in this community are not bigots...and to vote yes makes one a bigot...

It's interesting to see you post so obviously anti-Muslim pro-racist writings.

 

[Inuyasha]

That's ridiculous. Muslims who join the US military are exactly the kind of people we should be ENCOURAGING in the Muslim community. The Muslim community has (justifiably) been subject to suspicion because of their lack of a strong stance against terrorism. What's a better way for them to show that they're against terrorism than by joining the US military and personally risking their lives fighting terrorists?

I'm shocked that you and NP are so quick to degrade the contributions of our troops.

I agree with you totally. Having Muslims in the US Military certainly shows that they are against terror, good citizens of the US, and ready to come to the defense of their country.
It also proves to the Iraqis and other Muslims that "Christians do not murder people in the name of their religion." (pat.15's words) because right now many Muslims feel that this is a Christian Crusade to take the land from the Muslims. Ask anyone who has dealt with the problem. This is what many Middle Easterners think and you can take that to the bank. So for obvious reasons they feel that Christians kill and torture Muslims because that's how they see it. It doesn't matter if it's true or not the important thing is how they see it.

 

[26 X World Champs]

All these Libs not concerned with moslems in the military, of course none of them are in and most never have been....No skin off their ***........

This is a racist post...IMHO.

 

[26 X World Champs]

Champs...Navy's posts don't have a single cells of white supremacy in them. Not even close. He just has a different way of viewing things and we should respect that. If he decides to debate, debate back but saying he has any connection to "white supremacy" sounds wrong.

I did not say he was a white supremest. I said his poll is in that style because it is so bigoted. It was meant to be an analogy not a direct connection.

What I meant is that someone who is a White Supremest has many prejudices within his way of thinking that leads to illogical and bigoted polls. The poll that this thread is based on is bigoted too in my opinion which is one reason the results are so one sided.

The mere concept of worrying if allowing Muslims into our military is wrong. It is based on ignorance which is the same thing all prejudices are based upon.