So you're in favor of millions of Americans not being able to afford healthcare because of the premium increases that will go into effect during the enrollment period (early November)?
Do you refute what's being reported as consequences if enhanced credits expire?
Exactly. I'm not sure whether the people supporting the expiration of the subsidies understand that the premium impacts will affect the insured much sooner than the end of the year because the increases are communicated during the enrollment period. It's why the MAGAGOP stating they'll negotiate it later makes no sense at all.
Only the "admitting" part. He's wrong every day.
I just finished reading an article about the cost of continuing the Covid subsidies - 35 billion a year!
Yep, making insurance available for those who don't have it is expensive. People not having insurance is also costly to the insured.
I appreciate your consistency, and I'm sure those whose insurance access ends will thank the current administration at the ballot box. This is part of the reason I'd rather this go through, because some lessons need to be learned the hard way.
See the link in comment 1130. Yes, I'm more than okay with these consequences of allowing the covid ACA expansion to expire. Frankly that expansion was even worse than even I knew before reading that interesting article. People who choose to retire early, earn $130,000 a year in pensions and such (for a family of 2)- aren't yet eligible for Medicare - can and should most certainly pay for their own healthcare. I did not know people earning OVER 400% of poverty level were getting subsidized. That's crazy!
Terrific.
I have no idea how you come to the conclusions you do. Nobody is angrier today , quite the opposite. There was no expected outcome only a chance to express their opinions and show solidarity. That happened. As far as anyone thinking it would change minds on the right...that is laughable....kind word.
Sure, but the ending of the subsidies is.
No, but the result of people not having access to healthcare is the insured end up paying higher premiums due to emergency room visits that eventually make it back to those insurance companies. This has been the status quo and we're all paying for it in one form or another, so the question is whether we pay for it in a way we can control better through policy, or the most inefficient and expensive way possible with no control on costs at all.
This is an old talking point that's failed to prove out in reality, and the most recent examples are what happened when state level policies adopting this view rolled out in Arkansas and Georgia. The problem was the "young men playing video games" are a very small subset of people receiving any kind of benefit, while those who do are working families in low paying jobs.
You are aware people can work while on disability, yes? There are conditions around how much you can make, but you can work and receive those benefits because it's not centered around your inability to work, but your limitations to work at full capacity.
link please - because I thought it was always supposed to expired Nov 2025
we agree
maybe that needs changed then? I don't disagree the runaway healthcare system is flawed - but subsidies/free isn't the solution
its not a talking point anymore - the OBBB is real
You realize that the government subsidizes Medicare and the VA, Should these recipients pay the full cost?
No, they expire at the end of the year. Your own citation explains that. November is coming up as a talking point because the new rates have to be published for the insured to renew, so it's a decision point at the beginning of November as to who can afford to renew and who can't.
It is to keep people insured and prevent the absurdly inefficient and ineffective approach of the past which was more based on just shoving everything under the rug while prices for everyone continued to rise with little the government can do to address it.
The OBBB is real, but the idea that there are millions of loafers receiving benefits who can work is not. It's a great talking point in some circles because it relies on the idea there are undeserving people on the dole, but it's not reality. The reality is there are far many more who are working poor and the elderly; they are the ones in most need because of the way healthcare is structured in this country.
This is a myth, and again why you should research the outcomes in Arkansas and Georgia to see who really got the short end of the stick.
As long as you have what you want **** everyone else. The mantra of the selfish Right.
......and they choose to ignore that the insurance they have if they have Medicare is subsidized by taxes on business as well as the tax payer. They are not paying their own way.
They are never the sharpest knives in the drawer.
been that way for a while - yes
Pretty much in terms of Medicare. As I understand it premiums are not based on income so high end earners receive subsidies the same as low end. As for paying into it all your life. Give me a break.... what the average Joe pays into Medicare during their working years, if they even worked, is eaten up in a heartbeat given the exorbitant charges charged by your for profit health care industry. Any serious illness and your contribution is long gone.
Hell, they're not even knives and nowhere near the drawer. They're the toilet paper tube trying to cut Play Doh.
Your post sounds like a parody of MAGA.
That's a tautology. MAGA is a parody.