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you cant blame a POTUS -any POTUS- for glomming up powers not asserted by Congress. Congress can stop it. they dont

Personally power grabbers are automatically disqualified for future votes.

This kind of thing always makes me wonder if MAGA types actually have different values than I do. Different measures of right and wrong than I do.

So accepting of overreach.

Until it reaches over them of course.

If everybody doesn’t have to play by the rules why am I expected to?

 

[phoenix2020]

She also has wobbled on being on the Trump Train, it is a fluid status. Just like her abortion stance.

Some people are Trump-fluid, Trix’s posts suggest that she fits the bill. I loved when she said she would no longer support Trump on 1/6, then called 1/6 an Antifa false flag op to attack Trump on 1/7. If that’s not fluidity, I don’t know what is.

 

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T

The No Kings protests are about your team not having any power and their rules for thee but not for me unending, unfounded bunk, and gameplaying. They crave power and lost legit ideas on how to return credibility to themselves, so they continue on with their clown car charades that their shit don't stink. I think it's funny in a very sad sort of way.

They pretend to be for eroding democratic guardrails when in fact their actions, past and present, demonstrate the very opposite.

There is no authoritarian power grab. It's just another of the Democrats' funded hoaxes to grab votes for their own loss of power. There is no place for Kings in a democracy, and if there were Kings in this democracy, there would be no rally allowed for the butthurts who didn't get their way last November. That's a fact. The congressional Democrats would be best to vote to reopen the government. That might earn them some much needed street credibility. Instead, these marches will be seen has funding orchestrated faux chaos.

If the Democrats really cared about the Constitution, they'd earnestly work on building a better image for their own party instead of playing games of squirrel.

edited spelling and text above.

The problem with this tirade is it’s a bunch of voters involved. That includes Republicans and democrats and conservatives and liberals. Who are disgusted by the actions of both sides but more disgusted by trump and MAGA, as any reasonable person would be, than they are with the damn democrats or republicans.

The latter are interesting because there’s both in my day to day life and more and more mainstream Republican types are expressing concern about the authoritarian bent of trump and MAGA. Hasn’t reached revolt with all of them. But they’re definitely starting to grumble.

 

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Completely classless

Yup.

Trump doesn’t have any class because he thinks it has something to do with school.

 

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This is what you lot is being led to believe. It's crap. We are not moving away from the rule of law to rule of loyalty or royalty. This is just another Democratic Party hoax.

Getting back to the No Kings Marches, it's crystal clear that these cross the country marches, rallies, protests, did not spontaneously pop up from mom and pop kitchen tables across America. They have some serious institutional muscle behind them, with millions of dollars coming in from heavy hitters like George Soros. This is Soros funded political theater. Why would the Constitution loving Democrats take a commie's money? He hates our Constitution and our democracy. Makes no sense to me.

Please do go ahead and add in grants from labor unions, spots like the ACLU or MoveOn, and the Tides foundation, to make their war chest less crowdfunded by pissed off PTA moms and more like pre-packaged resistance playbook. We've seen it all before. Their playbook.

Did Soros get out from under your bed again?

I don’t know why he likes it there so much.

If it doesn’t make sense to you did you ever consider that maybe you’ve just been lied to to your face for decades and they aren’t taking money from Soros after all.

The logistics alone are daunting. All those unique handmade signs getting made and delivered on short notice (many I saw today referred to very recent incidents so there’d be express shipping involved.)

Where are these fake sign factories? How long does it take to train people to make unique signs that look handmade. Each different from the rest in style and media and artistic ability.

I guess that would take many billions of dollars.

Are these factories paying taxes? Union? I suspect they would use legal labor to avoid their vast liberal conspiracy being exposed by an ICE raid.

Of course it’s possible that the simplest explanation is the likely one:

That Soros is an anti liberal trope to fool the rubes into believing it’s not their fellow citizens that are disgusted with them but some damn furriner with a weird name trying to…

Dammit, what is it you think Soros is attempting to accomplish again? My mind doesn’t store ignorant bullshit very well.

Yours is better at it.

 

[trixare4kids]

Did Soros get out from under your bed again?

Are you saying my sourcing is incorrect?
Prove it.

I don’t know why he likes it there so much.

You made the claim, you tell us.

If it doesn’t make sense to you did you ever consider that maybe you’ve just been lied to to your face for decades and they aren’t taking money from Soros after all.

They, the organizers, took Soros, commie money for the No King's protests. If you don't think so, the onus is on you to dispute my sourcing.

The logistics alone are daunting. All those unique handmade signs getting made and delivered on short notice (many I saw today referred to very recent incidents so there’d be express shipping involved.)

Where are these fake sign factories? How long does it take to train people to make unique signs that look handmade. Each different from the rest in style and media and artistic ability.

I guess that would take many billions of dollars.

Are these factories paying taxes? Union? I suspect they would use legal labor to avoid their vast liberal conspiracy being exposed by an ICE raid.

You really are bad at this.

Of course it’s possible that the simplest explanation is the likely one:

That Soros is an anti liberal trope to fool the rubes into believing it’s not their fellow citizens that are disgusted with them but some damn furriner with a weird name trying to…

Dammit, what is it you think Soros is attempting to accomplish again? My mind doesn’t store ignorant bullshit very well.

Yours is better at it.

I'll leave you to your fantasies. Or you could keep reading and learn you're wrong. https://debatepolitics.com/threads/...please-join-me.579678/page-26#post-1082184053

 

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Are you saying my sourcing is incorrect?
Prove it.

You made the claim, you tell us.

They, the organizers, took Soros, commie money for the No King's protests. If you don't think so, the onus is on you to dispute my sourcing.

You really are bad at this.


I'll leave you to your fantasies. Or you could keep reading and learn you're wrong. https://debatepolitics.com/threads/...please-join-me.579678/page-26#post-1082184053

Soros awaits you!

 

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Th

It's my pleasure to prove you wrong. With a little help from my AI friend, https://x.com/i/grok/share/EBDAEyYI32JY6aKobxxltbnPF

Known Funding SourcesPublic records and investigative reports reveal a mix of philanthropic grants, union contributions, and grassroots donations supporting the protests. The funding primarily flows through nonprofit organizers rather than direct payments to protesters. Here's a breakdown of the major sources:

Funding Source	Amount/Details	Recipient/Notes
Open Society Foundations (George Soros-backed)	$7.61 million total since 2017, including a $3 million grant in 2023 for "social welfare activities."	Primarily to Indivisible, the lead organizer handling logistics, data coordination, and rally planning. Soros' group insists funds support "peaceful civic engagement" and do not pay or train protesters.
Progressive Foundations and Unions	Undisclosed aggregate amounts from entities like the Tides Foundation and labor unions.	Supports broader anti-Trump activism; specific allocations to No Kings events not fully detailed in public filings.
Grassroots Donations	Crowdfunding via platforms like ActBlue, estimated in the low millions.	Small-dollar contributions from individuals; Indivisible reports this as a significant but secondary source.
Other Sponsors	Contributions from groups like the Communist Workers of America Party (listed as a partner).	Symbolic or logistical support; no large financial figures reported.

That is definitely a list of claims.

Not a lot of actual proof or evidence or details though.

Do you really think this is evidence? From here it just looks like “evidence”.

 

[trixare4kids]

Th

That is definitely a list of claims.

Not a lot of actual proof or evidence or details though.

Do you really think this is evidence? From here it just looks like “evidence”.

Sources are embedded within the linked source.
Here's one.

George Soros funding anti-Trump ‘No Kings’ protests in US? Records reveal millions channeled to key organizer

I accept your concession though. I think it's hilarious though that you thought you won an argument with me by bluffing and insult.

 

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Oh, and I have to laugh about “Soros”.

$8M in 8 years is supposedly a “big deal”?


Meanwhile we have Musk who spent what? At least $288M for one election .

And not a care about that from MAGAs.


Hypocrisy is hysterical.

Have we ever heard why Soros is throwing all this supposed money around?

What’s in it for him? Is he getting it? If not, why does he continue to do it?

Why does so much MAGA shit sound so good…

If you don’t think about it?

 

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Sources are embedded within the linked source.
Here's one.

George Soros funding anti-Trump ‘No Kings’ protests in US? Records reveal millions channeled to key organizer

I accept your concession though. I think it's hilarious though that you thought you won an argument with me by bluffing and insult.

Your sources are just more claims with no evidence?

I looked. No links or nothing g just statement with numbers at least one, the 7.6 million one was presented in the original article like it was a one time recent donation and not the one over a period of a decade with the exact same number.

It was a clickbait editorial that clearly has an agenda but no interest in supporting their claims with actual evidence that can be checked.

 

[ElChupacabra]

what? POTUS can't lobby for his agenda?

Of course he can, but it's quite the reach to claim that's all he's doing. The position of anyone in power is to respect the limits of power and not push the envelope on everything for that person's advantage and that's exactly what him and the Project 2025 folks have been doing.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You've yet to say how I am wrong about any of it. You just say I am wrong and leave it at that. Make your case, if you have one. I will gladly demolish it. I have actual fact on my side.

That would be the exception, not the norm so I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm not sure where a poster comes back from this kind of post:

 

[ElChupacabra]

This is what you lot is being led to believe. It's crap. We are not moving away from the rule of law to rule of loyalty or royalty. This is just another Democratic Party hoax.

Then you'll be happy to explain why a US President just the other day interfered with the judicial process and commuted the sentence of someone convicted of wire fraud and aggravated identity theft which also removed the compensation that was tied to that conviction which leaves the victims with no justice. Surely you'll be able to defend the rationale behind this commutation.

Getting back to the No Kings Marches, it's crystal clear that these cross the country marches, rallies, protests, did not spontaneously pop up from mom and pop kitchen tables across America. They have some serious institutional muscle behind them, with millions of dollars coming in from heavy hitters like George Soros. This is Soros funded political theater. Why would the Constitution loving Democrats take a commie's money? He hates our Constitution and our democracy. Makes no sense to me.

All political movements have some kind of funding muscle behind them, in much the same way the Tea Party did and ultimately the MAGA movement did. Clearly you have no other position to take so now you're whinging about these protests being funded by Soros. What doesn't make sense is the nonsense you spewed about Soros in typical parrot type behavior, since you haven't presented an actual argument.

Please do go ahead and add in grants from labor unions, spots like the ACLU or MoveOn, and the Tides foundation, to make their war chest less crowdfunded by pissed off PTA moms and more like pre-packaged resistance playbook. We've seen it all before. Their playbook.

Are you outraged by the billionaire money going into the MAGA movement? I mean, Donnie Boy himself has taken a 747 jet as a gift from the same country he said "has historically been a funder of terrorism at a very high level". Weird, huh?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Just a little reminder for the usual crowd, the usual virtue signalers.

This is why I cannot take these No Kings protests seriously.

Good lord, what clueless blather. For starters, vaccinations are required for children, and vaccinations were required for a nationwide pandemic to protect Americans and not some personal power grab. If your goal is to mindlessly parrot other people's opinions, you should at least choose better ones.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The NO Kings rahs-rahs...

 

[ElChupacabra]

I don't know who they think they're trying to bullshit.

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Of course the why these things happened is the missing part of your parroted diatribe. Perhaps you find someone else's meme to cut and paste as a response. I'll bet you think Ross Ulbricht was just running an wbesite and Jeffrey Epstein was just showing girls a good time.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I think I hear a little kitten lost in the storm, while a national movement is happening right in front of me.

Are you sure that wasn't the sound of someone endless shaking the salt shaker all day?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Cult45/47’s desperation over today is palpable. And so hilarious. Not to mention so damn transparent that it hasn’t fooled a single soul outside of the cult.

They’re trying wayyyy too hard.

They don’t know what to conjur up next in their desperation to try to shout it all down.

- It’s Soros funded!! ( such dumb blind parroting )
- A hate America rally!
- Terrorist supporters!
- It’s Antifa!!!!
- They don’t know why they’re even protesting, they’re just all butthurt that our dear leader won the election!
( all equally as dumb)

Reality is the obvious over the top meltdowns have been for no other reason than cult45/47 simply can’t bear anything short of their level of blind praise, worship, and glorifying the mad king.

I was not disappointed to see Soros brought back to the mix. I felt like he was out of action for a while.

 

[ElChupacabra]

what is being shutdown and who's held hostage by GOP voting NO right now ? list please



non-existent ? You think Schumer was lying ?







they can go buy insurance anytime they want to - nobody is stopping them

getting free ? yes, that's going to stop

at 38 trillion in debt no, the money "isn't there"

Good lord this is daft. Um, no, they can't if those subsidies end, that's exactly the point.

 

[ElChupacabra]

More like a national bowel movement, ime.

You sure have dedicated a lot of responses to a bowel movement, top spot actually so well done!

 

[ElChupacabra]

Too violent and bitter?

The MAGAverse should have issued their base salt shakers for today.

 

[trixare4kids]

Oh look at these nice, peaceful people from Portland at the No Kings protests.

 

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Good lord, what clueless blather. For starters, vaccinations are required for children, and vaccinations were required for a nationwide pandemic to protect Americans and not some personal power grab. If your goal is to mindlessly parrot other people's opinions, you should at least choose better ones.

Not only that, the whole thing presumes that everybody in those crowds believed or felt about exactly the same thing in exactly the same way.

That no democrat had any issue with any of the things she listed was laughable. And she would have done so much better had she not included the last bit, that a lot of liberals I know were absolutely not in favor of while supporting the others.

It is really clear that they only know what they are told and have no direct experience or information that would have allowed them to parse the veracity of what they were told but expect us to somehow accept the same information or we’re poopyheads.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You can't make this up!

Not quite as unhinged as this though:

If I had a choice of making a political protest statement, I'd rather the singers over a nutter shooting beer cans. YMMV.