Are you busy October 18th? Please join me...

[Callen]

polls are invalid.

Does that include the one @gbg3 quoted.......

 

[BirdinHand]

they don't agree with funding the Fed Govt ?

They don’t agree with the CR as it stands. That’s why they vote no.

Democrats lost the power to do what they want when the American people voted in a Republican House, Senate and President

The democrats sitting in Congress have constituents they represent. They’re duly elected. Just because you disagree with them doesn’t mean they need to change their vote.

They said no.

Repeatedly.

The Republicans can either craft legislation that they’ll vote for OR they can use the nuclear option

That’s how this works.

I still want GOP to create a list of 20 demand that the Democrats have to give before the Republicans keep the Fed Govt running .... and then blame Democrats when they don't give in to all the Republicans demands

how dumb does that sound ?

Legislators are NOT required to vote affirmatively for something they do not support. I’m not sure where this notion that democrats HAVE to vote for a CR they do not support comes from.

People have the right to say “no”

 

[ElChupacabra]

I think it illustrates the waste/fraud exactly as I alluded - and I gave you a link, you gave me nothing

You gave me a link that did nothing to prove your point. I gave you the two examples where the premise of "lazy people on free healthcare" failed. You can do your own research and come back with a retort, or not and just continue flailing.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Ok, I guess you are not an astute political observer as you clearly do not understand this issue at all, yet it is very obvious to anyone that is politically literate. I try to believe that people that post on this site understand the issues; giving them the benefit of the doubt until that doubt is removed.

well that's a mistake

we have liberals saying the side NOT making demands and voting YES to fund the Govt is the ones to blame ... and the side voting NO to fund the Fed Govt and making all the demands is the innocent side

bassackwards huh ?

Perhaps you can make a meaningful contribution to the discussion on Facebook, but here you just show a lack of understanding of the issues, thus add nothing.

a terrorist hijacks a plane with a list of demands before they'll let the plane and people go

its the country not negotiating with them and meeting their demands that is to blame, right ?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

You gave me a link that did nothing to prove your point. I gave you the two examples where the premise of "lazy people on free healthcare" failed. You can do your own research and come back with a retort, or not and just continue flailing.

For the life of me....I'll NEVER understand what some people have against free stuff.

It's a puzzle to me.

 

[hecatmoggie]

"You Dems need to become fascists like us and join us in the destruction of the country...."

well it would make sense right ? GOP makes a list of demands then blames the Democrats for not giving in to the list

isn't that what liberals are saying right now is happening?

Democrats have their demands and its the Republican's fault for not giving in to those demands, right ?

 

[Callen]

Your comment 292 were questions not "relative to the shutdown". They were simply about Dem and Schumer popularity. Not sure what your point was relative to this thread topic, Callen.

Try and follow along without a pathetic knee jerk reaction in hopes of a gottcha

Every day this goes on, Democrats look worse and worse.

That's not what the polls are showing. The Dems are gaining ground against the GOP. This from the Morning Consults most recent poll.

"Congressional Democrats’ popularity ticks back up: Voters are 5 percentage points more likely to have an unfavorable than favorable view of Democrats in Congress, a 2-point improvement from last week that nonetheless leaves them less popular with Americans than they were for most of September. At 7 points underwater, Republicans in Congress remain slightly less popular with the U.S. electorate.

Schumer bests Johnson in popularity: For the first time this year, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has a lower net favorability rating among voters than Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). However, with respective net ratings of -5 points and -4 points, both leaders are underwater with the overall electorate."

 

[hecatmoggie]

What waste? What fraud?

people living on the Govt tit who can actually work but don't

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Judicial system
Congress

Nope. They have zero enforcement abilities for a rogue POTUS.

 

[BirdinHand]

people living on the Govt tit who can actually work but don't

Most able bodied recipients of any type of government assistance work.

You’re misinformed.

 

[hecatmoggie]

They don’t agree with the CR as it stands. That’s why they vote no.

the CR is the same is it not ?

The democrats sitting in Congress have constituents they represent. They’re duly elected. Just because you disagree with them doesn’t mean they need to change their vote.

true - and sometimes you don't get what you want

They said no.
Repeatedly.
The Republicans can either craft legislation that they’ll vote for OR they can use the nuclear option

if the Democrats continue playing games you're right. There is another option - the Fed Govt stays shut down and Trump has more power than he's ever had to do things.

you want that ?

That’s how this works.
Legislators are NOT required to vote affirmatively for something they do not support. I’m not sure where this notion that democrats HAVE to vote for a CR they do not support comes from.
People have the right to say “no”

the eventually the waves of the Fed Govt not paying their bills impacts everyone

I agree - Republicans need to add at least 20 things THEY want on top of the CR. Its what the Democrats have done - and then blame the Democrats for not giving in to what Republicans want

why isn't that fair ?

 

[BirdinHand]

There is another option - the Fed Govt stays shut down and Trump has more power than he's ever had to do things.

you want that

He doesn’t have any more power with the government closed than he had with it open

the eventually the waves of the Fed Govt not paying their bills impacts everyone

Good. Bring on the leopards.

I agree - Republicans need to add at least 20 things THEY want on top of the CR. Its what the Democrats have done - and then blame the Democrats for not giving in to what Republicans want

The Republicans are already trying to blame the democrats - when the republicans can RIGHT NOW - use the nuclear option

 

[tharock220]

Why not just have it on a Monday? Your average leftoid doesn't work so the event doesn't need to be held on a weekend when people with jobs are trying to do things.

There's one here in The Woodlands tomorrow at 10am, and I would show up just to troll the attendees, but the kids have stuff in the morning and then we have to go to a birthday celebration an hour away in the afternoon.

 

[Popeye2]

Does that include the one @gbg3 quoted.......

any poll is bullsnot

 

[Popeye2]

Way more Americans either:

1. Voted for someone else
2. Didn’t vote at all.

So let’s not pretend that majority of Americans are MAGA and ascribe to the policies of this Administration.

F*ck, even GOP House members such as MTG have come out against his policies and even die hard loyalists such as Laura Loomer have also.

that's not how it works, the winner of electoral votes takes the policies. It's quite simple. BTW, illegals don't get to vote, I know I know, you want them to.

 

[weaver2]

talk to the other poster, that's what they said, not me .... I don't think Trump runs the Govt or is King of it all ..... that's the other posters ideals, not mine

You didn't post "then why hasn't he commanded the GOP to use nuclear options if he controls them all ?"?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

start with mass deportations, funding complete border wall, remove all sanctuary city designations

Um, the GOP/WH is doing that without Congress.

GOP needs to demand Democrats go along with it

"You Dems need to become fascists like us and join us in the destruction of the country...."

well it would make sense right ? GOP makes a list of demands then blames the Democrats for not giving in to the list

Another day with you forgetting the argument, looping back to the same point already countered, as if nothing happened in between.

The WH is doing what you wanted without Congress, they don't need dems supporting their fascist police state actions. This expectation that we should support your destruction of the country is insane.

 

[BirdinHand]

that's not how it works, the winner of electoral votes takes the policies.

Actually, the winner of the EC gets the Oval Office.

Congress has to legislate.

You should really have paid more attention in class?

It's quite simple. BTW, illegals don't get to vote, I know I know, you want them to.

Weird post. Do better?

 

[bubbabgone]

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

people living on the Govt tit who can actually work but don't

Southern welfare trumptards?

 

[Popeye2]

The WH is doing what you wanted without Congress, they don't need dems supporting their fascist police state actions. This expectation that we should support your destruction of the country is insane.

what exactly are you referring to?

 

[Popeye2]

Actually, the winner of the EC gets the Oval Office.

Congress has to legislate.

You should really have paid more attention in class?

Weird post. Do better?

so you agree demofks are holding the country hostage?

 

[BirdinHand]

so you agree demofks are holding the country hostage?

How?

The senate could utilize the nuclear option right this second.

The republicans are the ones who are sitting around with their thumbs up their ass and letting the government be closed on their watch.

Not surprising though - the last time the republicans were in charge the same thing happened.

MAGAs can’t govern.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

what exactly are you referring to?

Forums are confusing venues, figuring out who specifically said what is difficult to untangle, but I bet if you keep grinding away, you might succeed with these challenges.

 

[What if...?]

What utter nonsense.

That why I can’t believe you fall for it!