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Are rights objectively real?

Master PO said:
yes they are, and no person /government is the infringe on you exercising those abilities
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Right, I have the ability to pick up a rock and beat someone over the head with it. Why is the government infringing upon my right to do this?
 
Master PO said:
its clear you have no understanding of rights, and its clear you have not been reading because rights have been explained many times
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I understand exactly what you are trying to say, I understand your argument, it isn't my problem that your argument just doesn't work.

It's a real shame for you that George III died so long ago.
 
William Rea said:
I understand exactly what you are trying to say, I understand your argument, it isn't my problem that your argument just doesn't work.

It's a real shame for you that George III died so long ago.
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:lamo what is shame is that i keep getting asked to post what a right is.

you have admitted you don't have an argument, but just to say iam wrong, and thats very sad.
 
Master PO said:
how can liberty exist, if it is in the hands of people and they control it?
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How else can it exist?

people could change, create, or abolish rights when ever they choose, then liberty is not secure
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People HAVE changed, created, and abolished rights throughout human history. Liberty is ONLY secured when people make it secure.
 
Master PO said:
already proved!....... the court recognized that the natural right to privacy existed, and a law violated that natural right, and struck it down.
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No it didnt prove anything.
Sorry because someone or group of people write on a piece of paper an OPINION claiming that they based that OPINION on BELIEF in natural rights is not proof of anything.
 
Quag said:
No it didnt prove anything.
Sorry because someone or group of people write on a piece of paper an OPINION claiming that they based that OPINION on BELIEF in natural rights is not proof of anything.
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since again you seek to deny, please provide something for your point, instead of just saying mine is wrong.....iam still waiting for any of you provide something
 
Master PO said:
since again you seek to deny, please provide something for your point, instead of just saying mine is wrong.....iam still waiting for any of you provide something
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We know different societies in different places at different times have had different rights. Thus rights cannot be objective or they would be the same in all societies at all times in all places.
These rights tend to follow the mores of the societies they exist in, it is only logical to conclude the soceities created the rights as there is nothign else to explain them.

Now back to you, can you provide any evidence to back up your claims?
 
Quag said:
We know different societies in different places at different times have had different rights. Thus rights cannot be objective or they would be the same in all societies at all times in all places.
These rights tend to follow the mores of the societies they exist in, it is only logical to conclude the soceities created the rights as there is nothign else to explain them.

Now back to you, can you provide any evidence to back up your claims?
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i have...called links, you and the others have provided nothing, except Ramoss, who validated by argument with 1 link.
 
Master PO said:
i have...called links, you and the others have provided nothing, except Ramoss, who validated by argument with 1 link.
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No you have provided opinions, opinions are subjective. You have also confused rights with abilities.
I have shown you rights are subjective, you have not countered because you cannot.
 
Master PO said:
ones own senses!
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By definition, that would makes it subjective.. if it is dependent on ones senses. However, your claim , and what you quoted do not correspond.
 
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