Are rights objectively real?

[haymarket]

then i will change my question to you, were is the right to vote granted?

This is you trying to get your foot out of the trap you set for yourself and saw it sprung catching you fast and hard and in great pain.

Why can't you answer a simple question without trying to move the goal posts and ask one back before you answer a direct question that was not carried in your own post?

Why do you insist on substituting your own question for one that I asked you?

When did the US Supreme Court specifically do what you claimed they did in your own post 544?

I asked you this

Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
If the right to vote in those five instances did not grant the citizens in those Amendments the right to vote.... then what exactly did grant them the right to vote?

you replied with this

as you have been told, the court recognized it as a right of liberty..... per the people

I am asking you very specifically to tell me WHEN the Court did as you claim they did in your above statement.
So when did the Court do this??

 

[Master PO]

This is you trying to get your foot out of the trap you set for yourself and saw it sprung catching you fast and hard and in great pain.

Why can't you answer a simple question without trying to move the goal posts and ask one back before you answer a direct question that was not carried in your own post?

Why do you insist on substituting your own question for one that I asked you?

When did the US Supreme Court specifically do what you claimed they did in your own post 544?

I asked you this


you replied with this







I am asking you very specifically to tell me WHEN the Court did as you claim they did in your above statement.
So when did the Court do this??

waiting for you, since i have already posted a link which proves my point, your turn please post a link showing rights are created by government.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

well yes and no..... because the court states its a right of liberty, but the court allows the right to be denied based on state laws because of certain conditions.

Sounds like then that laws make the right to vote.

 

[Master PO]

Sounds like then that laws make the right to vote.

no thats not how it works, law secures rights it does not create them.

if that were so then stautes would have to be created for say granting the "right to privacy", and no statute exist.

 

[haymarket]

waiting for you, since i have already posted a link which proves my point, your turn please post a link showing rights are created by government.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again

as you have been told, the court recognized it as a right of liberty..... per the people

Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

 

[Master PO]

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again



Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

i am still waiting for you.

please produce something other then your own words....

 

[haymarket]

i am still waiting for you.

please produce something other then your own words....

Why would you be waiting for me when I am taking your words at face value and asking you to provide the evidence that they were actually spoken by the US Supreme Court?

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again - from you - your contention of fact

as you have been told, the court recognized it as a right of liberty..... per the people

Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

Why are you unable to provide verifiable evidence of what you claim is fact?

 

[Master PO]

Why are you unable to provide verifiable evidence of what you claim is fact?

i have proved something, you still have provide nothing, this is a give and take, please provide a link making your point, and i will continue with mine.

this is not a debate of your saying things and expecting everything from me.

show me a link, stating rights are created by the constitution as you proclaim.

 

[haymarket]

i have proved something, you still have provide nothing,

You have provided what you claim the Supreme Court said. I am asking you for the verifiable evidence to support you claim.

Please provide it.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again - from you - your contention of fact

as you have been told, the court recognized it as a right of liberty..... per the people

All I am asking you to do is to prove this claim of alleged fact with evidence.
Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

Why are you unable to provide verifiable evidence of what you claim is fact?

 

[Master PO]

You have provided what you claim the Supreme Court said. I am asking you for the verifiable evidence to support you claim.

Please provide it.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again - from you - your contention of fact



All I am asking you to do is to prove this claim of alleged fact with evidence.
Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

Why are you unable to provide verifiable evidence of what you claim is fact?

i am asking what are you going to put up, as your contention that rights are created by government, where is your link, iam waiting!

post a link, and i will post another proving what i say.....now do it!

 

[haymarket]

i am asking what are you going to put up, as your contention that rights are created by government, where is your link, iam waiting!

post a link, and i will post another proving what i say.....now do it!

This is typically what you do. Your mouth writes a check that your intellectual abilities cannot cash.

You made a claim of fact. Please support it with the verifiable evidence requested. Once you do that I will be more than willing to submit to you the verifiable evidence that the right to vote comes from the US Constitution.

 

[Master PO]

This is typically what you do. Your mouth writes a check that your intellectual abilities cannot cash.

You made a claim of fact. Please support it with the verifiable evidence requested. Once you do that I will be more than willing to submit to you the verifiable evidence that the right to vote comes from the US Constitution.

your mo is to make claims but never produce, please post a link to your claim, it should be easy for you to do so when you do that i will make another link posting

 

[haymarket]

your mo is to make claims but never produce, please post a link to your claim, it should be easy for you to do so when you do that i will make another link posting

I will be glad to show you just what you request - but I asked first and you made a statement of alleged fact that I have been challenging you on for pages now.

Lets face it PO - the only reason you are doing this is you got your caught in your own trap not being able to back up what you claimed as fact and this is your lame way of trying to get it out.

Or are you trying to play chess and you know that three moves from now you get checkmated and thrown off the board in disgrace so you refuse to move?

Yeah - I bet that is it.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again

as you have been told, the court recognized it as a right of liberty..... per the people

Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

 

[Master PO]

I will be glad to show you just what you request - but I asked first and you made a statement of alleged fact that I have been challenging you on for pages now.

Lets face it PO - the only reason you are doing this is you got your caught in your own trap not being able to back up what you claimed as fact and this is your lame way of trying to get it out.

Or are you trying to play chess and you know that three moves from now you get checkmated and thrown off the board in disgrace so you refuse to move?

Yeah - I bet that is it.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again




Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

i posted a link confirming what have said, now you do the same, and stop stalling

 

[haymarket]

i posted a link confirming what have said, now you do the same, and stop stalling

I looked.
I saw no link.
In what post do you claim you posted this?

 

[Master PO]

I looked.
I saw no link.
In what post do you claim you posted this?

you need to look again, the link i posted about the 14th confirms what i said, now you produce a link that confirms what you have said, stop stalling

 

[haymarket]

you need to look again, the link i posted about the 14th confirms what i said, now you produce a link that confirms what you have said, stop stalling

NO. I can find nothing giving the information I requested from you to prove your claim of alleged fact.

In which post did you do this?

 

[Master PO]

NO. I can find nothing giving the information I requested from to to prove your claim of alleged fact.

In which post did you do this?

It shows you cant even understand
i made a statement, and a link i posted , backs up my statement
You made a statement, now you post a link backing up that statement you made, now do it

 

[haymarket]

It shows you cant even understand
i made a statement, and a link i posted , backs up my statement
You made a statement, now you post a link backing up that statement you made, now do it

In which post do you now have claimed to have previously posted the information I requested?

 

[Master PO]

In which post do you now have claimed to have previously posted the information I requested?

I didnt fill your request, this is not a lunch counter for you
You made a statement as did i, i posted a link for mine, now its your turn for you to post a link for your statement ,stop stalling and post a link

 

[Master PO]

Links posted by Master Po 1
Links posted by haymarket 0

 

[haymarket]

Links posted by Master Po 1
Links posted by haymarket 0

If you are done giving yourself phony self congratulatory pats on your own back from your own hand -

Where did you post a link to sewer the questions I had about your claims about you claimed the Supreme Court said about the right to vote?

 

[Master PO]

If you are done giving yourself phony self congratulatory pats on your own back from your own hand -

Where did you post a link to sewer the questions I had about your claims about you claimed the Supreme Court said about the right to vote?

i provided a link for what i was stating, but i still have not seen a link from you confirming what you were saying, why not?

 

[haymarket]

i provided a link for what i was stating, but i still have not seen a link from you confirming what you were saying, why not?

Your link FAILS to identify when the Supreme Court says what you claim they said.

Why are you unable to provide this? I have rarely seen anyone caught so completely flatfooted as you are here unable to provide any evidence to support a claim of fact they made.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again

as you have been told, the court recognized it as a right of liberty..... per the people

Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

 

[Master PO]

Your link FAILS to identify when the Supreme Court says what you claim they said.

Why are you unable to provide this? I have rarely seen anyone caught so completely flatfooted as you are here unable to provide any evidence to support a claim of fact they made.

When did the Supreme Court do what you claimed they did?

If you are impotent to answer a simple direct question, tell me in which post your claimed link can be found so I can look it up for myself.

Either way - I simply want to know WHEN they said what you claimed they said.

here it is again



Please provide the case... the year .. .and the quote of the Court saying what you claim they said previously when you used your own words.

My link confirms what i have said, where is your link, which is to confirm what you have said.
Iam still waiting on it