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UDHR said:(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
From Article 26, Section 3:
Seems to me a voucher system for education is the only way parents would have this "right to choose".
Compare a public housing project to the section 8 voucher system. A public housing project is owned by the government, just like a public school is owned by the government. The Section 8 system gets poor people out of terrible public housing projects and lets them find a place in private housing. A voucher for education would let parents pull their kids out of failing public schools and let them pay for a private school.
Public schools (generally) pretend that a child aging one year is reason (cause?) to place them into the next grade level - private schools (generally) do not.
Private schools tend to have admission, promotion and behavior standards which are far more strict (selective?) than public schools have. How, exactly, would your voucher system account for letting private educational facilities maintain their different (better?) standards for student admission, promotion and behavior?
The reality is that some students/parents would clearly benefit from having that choice while others would not unless the government demands that private schools take and keep all students - turning them into the very thing that makes (many) public schools suck.
From Article 26, Section 3:
Seems to me a voucher system for education is the only way parents would have this "right to choose".
Compare a public housing project to the section 8 voucher system. A public housing project is owned by the government, just like a public school is owned by the government. The Section 8 system gets poor people out of terrible public housing projects and lets them find a place in private housing. A voucher for education would let parents pull their kids out of failing public schools and let them pay for a private school.
A big problem with the voucher system is the lack of "fairness" which would result. Public schools (generally) pretend that a child aging one year is reason (cause?) to place them into the next grade level - private schools (generally) do not.
Private schools tend to have admission, promotion and behavior standards which are far more strict (selective?) than public schools have. How, exactly, would your voucher system account for letting private educational facilities maintain their different (better?) standards for student admission, promotion and behavior?
The reality is that some students/parents would clearly benefit from having that choice while others would not unless the government demands that private schools take and keep all students - turning them into the very thing that makes (many) public schools suck.
Which way do you think is better?
They could have any standards they want. You are forgetting that 90% of kids currently attend public schools. If those public schools were abolished, the private market for education would explode, and there would be schools for just about every kind of kids, just like there is food, clothing, housing, phones, etc. for just about every kind of person.
In no way should private schools be forced to take all students. They should each have their own standards like they do now.
OK, given that bolded above freedom of choice on the private school's part, then what good is a voucher for a parent of someone who is now performing below grade level
or refuses to study/behave?
As parents of the better students opt their (better behaved?) children out of public schools that leaves those remaining in the public school system even worse off than they are now.
I don't understand the question. Say I want to learn how to weld. What difference does it make as to how much knowledge I have when looking for a welding school to attend?
What world do you live in where a private business must tolerate kids or adults who refuse to behave?
The idea is to abolish public schools completely.
Its not about the kids, it’s about the teacher’s unions and political power. Thats why there is such a fight about charter schools and school choice. You can’t have taxpayers getting all uppity.
From Article 26, Section 3:
Seems to me a voucher system for education is the only way parents would have this "right to choose".
Compare a public housing project to the section 8 voucher system. A public housing project is owned by the government, just like a public school is owned by the government. The Section 8 system gets poor people out of terrible public housing projects and lets them find a place in private housing. A voucher for education would let parents pull their kids out of failing public schools and let them pay for a private school.
1) I don't understand the question. Say I want to learn how to weld. What difference does it make as to how much knowledge I have when looking for a welding school to attend?
2) What world do you live in where a private business must tolerate kids or adults who refuse to behave?
3) The idea is to abolish public schools completely.
1) Teaching a kid to weld is wonderful but not at the exclusion of teaching English, math and other subjects.
2) Exactly, yet why should the public schools not be able to impose those same standards?
3) Which is precisely why your brand of "school choice" is opposed. You want public funding of private entities (aka crony capitalism). That mission could also be accomplished by simply removing all school taxes, but you seem to want to keep the income redistribution alive and (essentially) privatize the public schools.
1) I still don't understand the question you were asking. Could you rephrase it?
2) They should.
3) A voucher system is not crony capitalism. Do you consider food stamps to be crony capitalism?
From Article 26, Section 3:
Seems to me a voucher system for education is the only way parents would have this "right to choose".
Compare a public housing project to the section 8 voucher system. A public housing project is owned by the government, just like a public school is owned by the government. The Section 8 system gets poor people out of terrible public housing projects and lets them find a place in private housing. A voucher for education would let parents pull their kids out of failing public schools and let them pay for a private school.
Somewhat true, but you can't deny that vouchers would allow (only?) the better students to opt into private schools while increasing the percentage of worse students left in the public school system.
Somewhat true, but you can't deny that vouchers would allow (only?) the better students to opt into private schools while increasing the percentage of worse students left in the public school system.
So why force the good students to stay in crappy schools. When they leave, the teachers will have more time to spend on bad students, uh... teaching.
I think that beats better students being stuck in a crappy school. It's a trade off.
From Article 26, Section 3:
Seems to me a voucher system for education is the only way parents would have this "right to choose".
Compare a public housing project to the section 8 voucher system. A public housing project is owned by the government, just like a public school is owned by the government. The Section 8 system gets poor people out of terrible public housing projects and lets them find a place in private housing. A voucher for education would let parents pull their kids out of failing public schools and let them pay for a private school.
The government has no business giving a single cent to private schools.
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