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Are Kaepernick haters ready to admit they were wrong and accept him back in the NFL?

I loved when that came out and the people who went on and on and on and on about respecting the anthem and all that crap had to shut up and do a complete reverse on how to act during the anthem.

Meh. I think some of it was also just bad timing - people were tired of sports being politicized, of an inability to watch ESPN without being lectured about how Woke they were, and Kapernick then made himself a (if not the major) face of that trend.
 
Colin Kaepernick is not "redeemed" by a single cop's misuse of force on a single perp. He is not "redeemed" by nightly riots, looting, and arson of white, black, Asian and other businesses. He is not "redeemed" by the media's worn out thought ending clichés and mass virtue posturing by apologists for a locked up young population going wild upon the first "legit" excuse to leave their apartments and houses.

And the most important reason Kaepernick is not redeemed is that he has evolved into a prima donna, a privileged jerk who can't even take up an offer in for a special NFL workout just for him without turning it into a controversial circus.

No owner wants an entitled jerk, without a starter's talent, on his team whose "privilege" and resentful attitudes will cause trouble every time he is benched (as he was a SF). They don't need more politicized antics or divisive comments (or pig socks) whenever things don't go his way.

Kaepernick is a rich no nothing with a mouth - which means he ought to take his act into politics or public service.

He's out for good, and I say good riddance.
 
Politically and historically this is not the case - whereas peaceful protests can increase public support for a cause (especially if that protest is met with clear violent state repression), rioting and looting sharply decreases public support for a cause.

Case in point, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It took years of protesting, rioting, looting and burning, just as we're seeing today. But in the end, a law was finally put into effect. It only took a couple hundred years to get the Civil Rights Act passed.

It was due to civil disobedience that finally put an end to the Vietnam war.
 
The only reason Kapernick is not in the NFL now is because teams are afraid of the fans who hate him.

Do you think those fans are ready to admit they were wrong? It's clear now to everyone that police brutality is a real issue. And it's clear now that it was an urgent issue that needed our attention years ago when Kaepernick was kneeling.

Are those who hate Kaepernick now willing to accept him back in the NFL? Is Trump willing to accept Kaepernick back?

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If kneeling was the reason keeping Kaepernick out, then why are other players who kneeled/kneel......still in?
 
Kaepernick was right back then and he is still right.
 
Kaepernick was right back then and he is still right.

Kaepernick has never been right is his lifetime. He was preening to impress his girlfriend and lost his career over it
 
You gotta love that 49.5 QBR.

Give me a break. He also has a 90.7 quarterback rating that year. This was an awful 49ers team that year. Did you watch the video? It destroys your argument.

It proves you're not a rational thinker. You're guided more by emotion than facts. You try to twist facts to serve your emotions. No rational NFL fan can deny that Kaepernick should be in the NFL.

 
Colin Kaepernick is not "redeemed" by a single cop's misuse of force on a single perp. He is not "redeemed" by nightly riots, looting, and arson of white, black, Asian and other businesses. He is not "redeemed" by the media's worn out thought ending clichés and mass virtue posturing by apologists for a locked up young population going wild upon the first "legit" excuse to leave their apartments and houses.

And the most important reason Kaepernick is not redeemed is that he has evolved into a prima donna, a privileged jerk who can't even take up an offer in for a special NFL workout just for him without turning it into a controversial circus.

No owner wants an entitled jerk, without a starter's talent, on his team whose "privilege" and resentful attitudes will cause trouble every time he is benched (as he was a SF). They don't need more politicized antics or divisive comments (or pig socks) whenever things don't go his way.

Kaepernick is a rich no nothing with a mouth - which means he ought to take his act into politics or public service.

He's out for good, and I say good riddance.

Ben Rothlisberger was accused of raping a woman. Everything you listed is nothing in the world of the NFL where players get into all kinds of off-field trouble.

And how does it look if the NFL punishes the one player who stood up and warned us that we had a problem with policing in America?
 
All those rightists who blew up over that brought this violence on the country.

i thought leftist hated lies?
i guess they don't when they are the ones spewing them.
 
Ben Rothlisberger was accused of raping a woman. Everything you listed is nothing in the world of the NFL where players get into all kinds of off-field trouble.

And how does it look if the NFL punishes the one player who stood up and warned us that we had a problem with policing in America?

You really think it was only one player that kneeled??? Really?
 
Please show a causal connection between Kaepernick’s situation and the current riots.

Simple. Kaepernick was trying to bring attention to the problem of police brutality in minority communities. Instead of listening to him and maybe enacting change, people like you demonized him. Now the problem has exploded for the entire world to see. The whole world is seeing this mess. We can't pretend it doesn't exist anymore.

People like you, denying there was a problem and persecuting those who tried to bring attention to the problem is the causal connection.
 
Absolute garbage nonsense,

Owners love money so much...right? that they are going to risk the chance of winning by not signing this great QB.....because he might cost them money? The money that he might cost them, is insignificant to what they can make if they win.....but don't let facts get in your way.

Your claim is absurd. NFL owners make money by selling tickets and luxury boxes. If a large part of their fanbase will walk out if they sign a player then it doesn't matter if he's going to help them win or not.

Why didn't all the baseball teams immediately sign the amazing negro league players when they could? They were afraid of fan reaction.

Please stop pretending you're a rational person. Your thinking is pure emotional nonsense. Maybe you should have a good cry and get it all out then you'll be able to think clearly.
 
He was the first and most prominent. What's your point?

That's it not his kneeling that is keeping him out, if it WAS his kneeling then wouldn't it be accurate to say EVERY player that kneeled would be out as well?
 
That's it not his kneeling that is keeping him out, if it WAS his kneeling then wouldn't it be accurate to say EVERY player that kneeled would be out as well?

No, because he was the most prominent one. Nobody even remembers the other players. You're being silly.
 
Case in point, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It took years of protesting, rioting, looting and burning, just as we're seeing today.

That's an excellent case in point because it demonstrated precisely what I am pointing out to you - that whereas peaceful protests can increase public support for a cause (especially if that protest is met with clear violent state repression), rioting and looting sharply decreases public support for a cause.

Using Democrat and Republicans as proxies during those years, for example:

Counties proximate to nonviolent protests saw presidential Democratic vote share increase 1.6–2.5%. Protester-initiated violence, by contrast, helped move news agendas, frames, elite discourse, and public concern toward “social control.”...violent protests likely caused a 1.5–7.9% shift among whites toward Republicans and tipped the election.

We learn that the violent protests of the latter 60s were responsible for giving you the Nixon Administration.

...Critically, in the case of the 1960s black freedom struggle, these results suggest that nothing in the contest between the more egalitarian and order-maintenance political coalitions was inevitable. These findings suggest that the “transformative egalitarian” coalition . . . was fragile but, in the absence of violent protests, would likely have won the presidential election of 1968. In this counterfactual scenario, the United States would have elected Hubert Humphrey, lead author of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, rather than Richard Nixon. In the absence of white antipathy to black uprisings, the “law and order” coalition would not have carried the day and, possibly, not developed a durable campaigning and governing strategy for the next half century...


Choosing between oppression / abuse and not-oppression / abuse, the American people will choose not-oppression / abuse. But, if given the choice between violence / chaos and order... they will choose order.

Turning protests violent - rioting and looting - are among the quickest ways to discredit the movement in the eyes of the population they need to win over. If you appeal to America's sense of basic Justice, we can be won over, and you can win. If you threaten America, we will deploy overwhelming force and crush you, and folks won't generally care over-much whether or not your rights are protected during said crushing. :(



...It is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots. I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots.... Let me say as I’ve always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. I’m still convinced that nonviolence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice. I feel that violence will only create more social problems than they will solve. That in a real sense it is impracticable for the Negro to even think of mounting a violent revolution in the United States. So I will continue to condemn riots, and continue to say to my brothers and sisters that this is not the way. And continue to affirm that there is another way.

And I would be the first to say that I am still committed to militant, powerful, massive, non*violence as the most potent weapon in grappling with the problem from a direct action point of view. I’m absolutely convinced that a riot merely intensifies the fears of the white community while relieving the guilt.

Martin Luther King Jr was right, and you are wrong.

Barack Obama is right, and you are wrong.

And George Floyd's family are right, and you are wrong.
 
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I'm one of those guys who stopped watching the NFL cause of him. He had the right to do what he did. I also had the right to do what I did. Isn't freedom grand?

FWIW, it wasn't his message, but the way he did it that cost him his career. Don't piss off the fans if you play pro sports. We pay your salaries.

I used to watch football to get AWAY from the problems of the world. To escape. He used his job to disrespect the flag and the anthem. That's not the right venue for his protest.
 
Your claim is absurd. NFL owners make money by selling tickets and luxury boxes. If a large part of their fanbase will walk out if they sign a player then it doesn't matter if he's going to help them win or not.

Why didn't all the baseball teams immediately sign the amazing negro league players when they could? They were afraid of fan reaction.

Please stop pretending you're a rational person. Your thinking is pure emotional nonsense. Maybe you should have a good cry and get it all out then you'll be able to think clearly.

LOL wow, NFL owners make their money on TV rights and franchise value, you really don't know how sports works do you? Like, not a clue, yes, gate revenue is part of it, but not the biggest chunk at all.

Superbowl TV rights, we are talking BILLIONS of dollars, BILLIONS. you want to talk about a measley 9 million......cmon man.
 
No, because he was the most prominent one. Nobody even remembers the other players. You're being silly.

So he's out because he was prominent.....yea, that makes sense.....

Let's ignore the 50 others who kneeled and CONTINUE TO KNEEL, so we can say Kaapernick should be in because he's prominent.....that's a ****ing farce.
 
Simple. Kaepernick was trying to bring attention to the problem of police brutality in minority communities. Instead of listening to him and maybe enacting change, people like you demonized him. Now the problem has exploded for the entire world to see. The whole world is seeing this mess. We can't pretend it doesn't exist anymore.

People like you, denying there was a problem and persecuting those who tried to bring attention to the problem is the causal connection.

People like me? Please prove that I’ve done anything you’re accusing me of, or apologize.

And what you listed doesn’t even come close to establishing a causal connection between the two events. Your emotional response does not qualify.
 
LOL wow, NFL owners make their money on TV rights and franchise value, you really don't know how sports works do you? Like, not a clue, yes, gate revenue is part of it, but not the biggest chunk at all.

Superbowl TV rights, we are talking BILLIONS of dollars, BILLIONS. you want to talk about a measley 9 million......cmon man.

If you think that an NFL owner wouldn't be afraid of losing 30% of his fanbase, then you're a fool.

It's sad to see you let your emotions lead you to ridiculous claims. Every rational person knows that Kaepernick is not in the NFL because teams are afraid of the backlash from fans if they sign him. Please don't waste my time with your desperate contrived emotional attempts to argue otherwise.
 
People like me? Please prove that I’ve done anything you’re accusing me of, or apologize.

And what you listed doesn’t even come close to establishing a causal connection between the two events. Your emotional response does not qualify.

If I warn you that your boiler is about to explode and you ignore me, you ignoring me is the cause.

Those who ignored Kaepernick are the reason we are in the mess we are in today.

Ignoring things until it's too late seems to be a pattern among conservatives. Deny ignore coronavirus, deny climate change, deny police brutality.
 
Give me a break. He also has a 90.7 quarterback rating that year. This was an awful 49ers team that year. Did you watch the video? It destroys your argument.

It proves you're not a rational thinker. You're guided more by emotion than facts. You try to twist facts to serve your emotions. No rational NFL fan can deny that Kaepernick should be in the NFL.

Not at the price he was asking for. Teams certainly didn't want to sign a trouble maker just to be the back up.
 
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