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Are Hispanics Going Trump/Republican ?

Luther

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I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS
 

:lol:

Anyone who thinks a large number of Hispanics are anywhere near supporting Trump is delusional. Of course, I can't speak for any Hispanic other than myself and the people I know but the ones I do know are very vocal about not supporting him. Many of us have been told our whole lives to "go back where we came from" and we are not ever going to support someone who endorses and promotes that kind of hurtful rhetoric.
 

Here. Read this. It'll help.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ll-fade/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.85af240b161c
 
Nope, they want the VP of the "deporter in chief" to strictly enforce "the immigration laws as written". Oh wait...
 

I don't think much has changed among Hispanics since the election. Trump received 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2016. Today 31% of Hispanics have a favorable view of Trump, 61% unfavorable. Question 74A.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/hash0nbry8/econTabReport.pdf

Back on election day when Trump received 27% of the Hispanic vote, 26% of Hispanics viewed him favorably, 72% unfavorably. Question 11.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

Those are basically close to the same numbers with the biggest drop in the percentage of Hispanic's who view Trump unfavorably, a 11 point drop there. 30%, plus or minus is the historical average of Hispanic's voting Republican. The big exception was G.W. Bush who received 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. Personally, I think that historical average will hold up in 2020. Whether it goes up a couple of points or drops a couple of points that depends on whom the Democrats nominate.
 
I have "heard" the following:


1. Hispanic people are on path to becoming the majority ethnicity in this country.

2. Hispanic people are, generally speaking, culturally conservative.

3. The Dems are currently culturally liberal.

4. In the future, it is possible that many Hispanic people will vote Republican.

5. The Dems in the future cannot take the Hispanic vote for granted, as it currently does.
 

Yeppers
 

2. Hispanic people are, generally speaking, culturally conservative
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But they're liberal on EDUCATION and HEALTHCARE
 

The older generation is more culturally conservative. The older generations are dying off.
 
In My opinion, the Hispanics who are voting are citizens, and not much more concerned about immigration
than anyone else. They see the economy doing well, and everyone who wants to work, can get a decent paying job.
Education levels have been increasing, and with education comes the ability to look beyond the rhetoric,
and see which sides policies are better overall for the things that matter, like providing for one's family.
Demographics change, why should we expect them not to?
 

Not the way the Republican party is going right now. They were gaining Hispanics but had to mess it up by supporting Trump. When he opened up his campaign with his attack on Mexican migrants "they are not us" tells us exactly what he thinks and then after all the attacks, he still wins the Republican nomination so it hasn't done much to gain back the support.
 

Seriously, don't you remember the words Trump had for Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria? Those residents are still recovering on parts of that island and next month it will be three years since that disaster. There's more than 2 million Puerto Ricans in Florida alone that are registered voters. The number of Hispanic registered voters in Florida has increased 6.2% since the 2016 presidential election, to a record 2.1 million people.

Hurricane Maria forced many Puerto Ricans to come to the U.S to. live with relatives or friends after Hurricane Maria because they lost everything, had no place to live. If all those people register to vote, in addiction to the already millions of Puerto Ricans in this country, they will never vote for Trump because of the treatment Trump gave them. Puerto Ricans are the second-largest Latino group nationwide, after Mexican-Americans. And, no-hell-no, they will not be voting for Trump in 2020.
 




Education levels have been increasing, and with education comes the ability to look beyond the rhetoric,
and see which sides policies are better overall for the things that matter, like providing for one's family.
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(LOL)

Well, this was only 7 months ago?


New Mexico Senate Election Results 2018: Live Midterm Map by County & Analysis
 



I got all the bud about the more liberal Puerto Rican's

It's the Cubans that help Trump get over the Hump in FL in 2016
 
Luther said:
(LOL)

Well, this was only 7 months ago?


New Mexico Senate Election Results 2018: Live Midterm Map by County & Analysis
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If the current ratio is 70:30 that is to be expected, but it would wrong to assume it will always stay that way!
Hispanics will be the majority in the US, we might as well embrace it!
The question is will the Hispanics vote as a unified block, and the answer is of course not,
they are a bunch of individuals like everyone else, and will vote for who they perceive is best
for their themselves. This sometimes means seeing beyond the empty promises of the Democrats
paying lip service to minorities.
 

but it would wrong to assume it will always stay that way!
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No it's not



Hispanics will be the majority in the US, we might as well embrace it!
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Yes, thanks to past and present VAIN politicians as a result of a VAIN citizenry. Is this all the Americanism you have in you?



and will vote for who they perceive is best
for their themselves.
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Yep, they're "selfish" like everyone else
 

What I think is BS, is assuming all Hispanics support illegal immigration.
 
X Factor said:
What I think is BS, is assuming all Hispanics support illegal immigration.
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Well, They seem to support it by their VOTING in New Mexico, Calif and Texas


What do those states all have in common?


Mucho Hispanics!(LOL)
 
Luther said:
Well, They seem to support it by their VOTING in New Mexico, Calif and Texas


What do those states all have in common?


Mucho Hispanics!(LOL)
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Just so I understand your position. The way to win over Hispanic voters is to support illegal border crossing. Have I got that right?
 
X Factor said:
Just so I understand your position. The way to win over Hispanic voters is to support illegal border crossing. Have I got that right?
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Do you remember the 2018 midterms(Not that long ago)?

Do you remember Trump capitalizing on the "Caravan" just at the pre - election period coming up in through Mexico?

Does this help?

My "position" is "What is"
 

I would say the difference is that states such as Florida who have legal Cubans living in the state, favor Trump more than the states who have a bunch of illegals living in the state. By the way, in case you didn't know, Florida is very rich in electoral votes and has a few more than New Mexico does.
 
Luther said:
No it's not





Yes, thanks to past and present VAIN politicians as a result of a VAIN citizenry. Is this all the Americanism you have in you?





Yep, they're "selfish" like everyone else
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You address my saying "Hispanics will be the majority in the US", like it's a bad thing!
 

But Fl is a swing state that can go either way

Older Cubans have ALWAYS generally been conservative but are dying off


Florida is very rich in electoral votes and has a few more than New Mexico does
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So is Texas. What will you do when it goes Blue?


Did you know that Texas voted for Hillary in 2016 about a 1/2 a million(That's a lot) more than they did for Obama in 2012?

Oh my......
 
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