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Are corporate anti-sexual harassment courses too extreme?

I have been through maybe a dozen or so. I think they condition men not to interact with women.

I thought they trained co-workers how to professionally interact, not to not interact.


Did these men say this or the training?

I don't get it. :shrug: So much as a greeting is a risk. Why chance it?

Did the training warn against greeting women professionally?
 
I thought they trained co-workers how to professionally interact, not to not interact.

It goes through this laundry list of what might offend people. It you pay attention, it's worded in a very open ended way.

Did these men say this or the training?

Different men over the decades.

Did the training warn against greeting women professionally?

Again there's open ended language that could mean anything "unwelcome", "offensive", etc.
 
It goes through this laundry list of what might offend people. It you pay attention, it's worded in a very open ended way.

What things did they list specifically? What did they say you should do about it?

Different men over the decades.

Maybe we shouldn't be listening to these men.
 

My youngest son supervises dozens of people, mostly women. He won't socialize with women from work, won't hire women for jobs he has to interact closely with, and tries not to do any business travel with women. He hires men as much as he can get away with. All that training has done is insure a CYA attitude.
 
If he is forced to hire women, he should look for Hindi names. Indian women tend have less of a troublemaking, entitled attitude.

 
If he is forced to hire women, he should look for Hindi names. Indian women tend have less of a troublemaking, entitled attitude.

I'll pass that little tidbit of knowledge along to him. He's recently married; I never thought he would, and even bought a home. He was always shy of personal commitment. But at work now he's really gunshy of women in the workplace. And I'm saying all these workplace training sessions are having the opposite effect of what they're intended. Society is actually training young men to avoid commitment.

FWIW; my new daughter in law is amazing. That she could break down his wall and make him like it is a miracle.
 
But at work now he's really gunshy of women in the workplace. And I'm saying all these workplace training sessions are having the opposite effect of what they're intended. .

Yep, that is what a few of us men have been trying to say in this thread. However, not one woman has accepted this idea anywhere in this thread...
 

Well....to be fair....


On that second one....
 

By this same logic, I can only assume you are not for greater gun control. Because, you know. Most of them are perfectly safe.


Right?
 
All of this should go without saying, but I have in the course of my career had to fire 3 men and 1 woman for sexual harassment.

In none of those cases did I feel any need to hesitate at all. If you cannot behave well enough to avoid endangering the shareholders' investments, then you will simply have to be a dumbass somewhere else.
 
You know, the Western women on this message board are the only ones I interact with.

You don't by any chance wear a fedora and own a Cutlery World katana, do you?
 

"Harassment. What is that? If she is not making you do it, it is just gossip. Women do that all the time."
 
You fired a woman for sexual harassment? Tell us more.

 
By this same logic, I can only assume you are not for greater gun control. Because, you know. Most of them are perfectly safe.

Right?

Right. I am in favor of conceal and carry and believe that legal firearms in the hands of responsible adults are safer than drinkable alcohol.
 

I think that's personal advice given your personal situation. I'm sure every HR department believes it's best you don't talk to females at all. Not one word. That's best for everyone.

But that's not the advice they give everyone. Just some. You can't project your experience onto everyone. You're a very special case, as illustrated in your OP.
 
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