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AR-15 Rifles: The instruments of slaughter & murder in America

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The trial of the hateful liar Alex Jones got me to thinking about how the gun wackos get extremely upset when the term "slaughter" is used in reference to mass murders in a very short period of time by a shooter wielding an assault-style rifle. '

Let's take a look at the definition to see if the term slaughter applies. Here is a sample definition that I found numerous times in a Google search of different dictionary definitions: "to kill a large number of people indiscriminately".

Now let's take a look at some of the AR-15 mass murder events of the past 10 years or so:
he following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

  • Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
  • Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
  • Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
  • June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
  • Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
  • Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
www.npr.org

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

And thus it sure looks like the term "slaughter" can apply to the events listed above, given that they are indeed "indiscriminate" killings since, in almost all cases, the murderer did not know the victims. I suppose that the gun wackos will complain that a "large number" of people were not killed, but I would have to ask them how many murders in a very short time with an assault-style rifle they would need in order to verify that it was a "slaughter".
To me, the killings of 27, 14, 49, 26, 58, and 17 sure seems like a "large number" given that these people were living normal lives up until the second before the slaughter began. The only question is when the next slaughter by AR-15 will happen, and how many will be murdered then.
 
watsup said:
The trial of the hateful liar Alex Jones got me to thinking about how the gun wackos get extremely upset when the term "slaughter" is used in reference to mass murders in a very short period of time by a shooter wielding an assault-style rifle. '

Let's take a look at the definition to see if the term slaughter applies. Here is a sample definition that I found numerous times in a Google search of different dictionary definitions: "to kill a large number of people indiscriminately".

Now let's take a look at some of the AR-15 mass murder events of the past 10 years or so:
he following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

  • Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
  • Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
  • Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
  • June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
  • Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
  • Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
www.npr.org

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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And thus it sure looks like the term "slaughter" can apply to the events listed above, given that they are indeed "indiscriminate" killings since, in almost all cases, the murderer did not know the victims. I suppose that the gun wackos will complain that a "large number" of people were not killed, but I would have to ask them how many murders in a very short time with an assault-style rifle they would need in order to verify that it was a "slaughter".
To me, the killings of 27, 14, 49, 26, 58, and 17 sure seems like a "large number" given that these people were living normal lives up until the second before the slaughter began. The only question is when the next slaughter by AR-15 will happen, and how many will be murdered then.
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Hmm, over 20 million AR-15 rifles in the US and you have to go back 10 years to find 6 instances of misuse. Big fail for you.
 
watsup said:
The trial of the hateful liar Alex Jones got me to thinking about how the gun wackos get extremely upset when the term "slaughter" is used in reference to mass murders in a very short period of time by a shooter wielding an assault-style rifle. '

Let's take a look at the definition to see if the term slaughter applies. Here is a sample definition that I found numerous times in a Google search of different dictionary definitions: "to kill a large number of people indiscriminately".

Now let's take a look at some of the AR-15 mass murder events of the past 10 years or so:
he following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

  • Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
  • Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
  • Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
  • June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
  • Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
  • Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
www.npr.org

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

And thus it sure looks like the term "slaughter" can apply to the events listed above, given that they are indeed "indiscriminate" killings since, in almost all cases, the murderer did not know the victims. I suppose that the gun wackos will complain that a "large number" of people were not killed, but I would have to ask them how many murders in a very short time with an assault-style rifle they would need in order to verify that it was a "slaughter".
To me, the killings of 27, 14, 49, 26, 58, and 17 sure seems like a "large number" given that these people were living normal lives up until the second before the slaughter began. The only question is when the next slaughter by AR-15 will happen, and how many will be murdered then.
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And yet when the entire data set for murders is examined rifles of all times account for about 5% of the total. Facts are stubborn things.
 
Bullseye said:
And yet when the entire data set for murders is examined rifles of all times account for about 5% of the total. Facts are stubborn things.
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The question that you have never answered honestly: why would a mass murderer use an AR-15 as his weapon of choice?
 
watsup said:
The trial of the hateful liar Alex Jones got me to thinking about how the gun wackos get extremely upset when the term "slaughter" is used in reference to mass murders in a very short period of time by a shooter wielding an assault-style rifle. '

Let's take a look at the definition to see if the term slaughter applies. Here is a sample definition that I found numerous times in a Google search of different dictionary definitions: "to kill a large number of people indiscriminately".

Now let's take a look at some of the AR-15 mass murder events of the past 10 years or so:
he following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

  • Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
  • Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
  • Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
  • June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
  • Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
  • Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
www.npr.org

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

And thus it sure looks like the term "slaughter" can apply to the events listed above, given that they are indeed "indiscriminate" killings since, in almost all cases, the murderer did not know the victims. I suppose that the gun wackos will complain that a "large number" of people were not killed, but I would have to ask them how many murders in a very short time with an assault-style rifle they would need in order to verify that it was a "slaughter".
To me, the killings of 27, 14, 49, 26, 58, and 17 sure seems like a "large number" given that these people were living normal lives up until the second before the slaughter began. The only question is when the next slaughter by AR-15 will happen, and how many will be murdered then.
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Define a AR-15 style rifle exactly. And then we can discuss what to do about them.
 
watsup said:
The question that you have never answered honestly: why would a mass murderer use an AR-15 as his weapon of choice?
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Ask it that way - and I'll continue to not answer. "never answered honestly"? I think i you examine all shootings classified as "mass" you'd might find that AR's aren't the prime weapon.
Answer honestly: do you think if we somehow made all AR's disappear mass shootings would end?
 
craig said:
Define a AR-15 style rifle exactly. And then we can discuss what to do about them.
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The point of this thread is that when I have used the term “slaughter” in the past to define the mass murder of a large number of people with an AR-15, the gun apologists immediately get all bent out of shape about it, while I see it as a perfectly appropriate term.
 
Bullseye said:
Ask it that way - and I'll continue to not answer. "never answered honestly"? I think i you examine all shootings classified as "mass" you'd might find that AR's aren't the prime weapon.
Answer honestly: do you think if we somehow made all AR's disappear mass shootings would end?
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So you refuse to answer my perfectly appropriate question and yer demand that I answer yours. That’s quite a double-standard you have.
 
watsup said:
So you refuse to answer my perfectly appropriate question and yer demand that I answer yours. That’s quite a double-standard you have.
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Done intentionally. You've been served.
 
watsup said:
The point of this thread is that when I have used the term “slaughter” in the past to define the mass murder of a large number of people with an AR-15, the gun apologists immediately get all bent out of shape about it, while I see it as a perfectly appropriate term.
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Probably because a shotgun with buckshot would create as much slaughter but you want to concentrate on only a specific weapon which is illogical and so only meant to inflame.
 
craig said:
Probably because a shotgun with buckshot would create as much slaughter but you want to concentrate on only a specific weapon which is illogical and so only meant to inflame.
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How many mass murders have been committed with shotguns in the past decade? This thread is about assault style weapons because of the list and the casualties in the OP.
 
watsup said:
How many mass murders have been committed with shotguns in the past decade? This thread is about assault style weapons because of the list and the casualties in the OP.
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The majority of mass murders are done with handguns.
www.statista.com

Guns used in mass shootings U.S. 2023 | Statista

Handguns are the most common weapons used in mass shootings in the United States. Other types of guns used in mass shootings include rifles and shotguns.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
 
watsup said:
The trial of the hateful liar Alex Jones got me to thinking about how the gun wackos get extremely upset when the term "slaughter" is used in reference to mass murders in a very short period of time by a shooter wielding an assault-style rifle. '

Let's take a look at the definition to see if the term slaughter applies. Here is a sample definition that I found numerous times in a Google search of different dictionary definitions: "to kill a large number of people indiscriminately".

Now let's take a look at some of the AR-15 mass murder events of the past 10 years or so:
he following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

  • Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
  • Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
  • Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
  • June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
  • Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
  • Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
www.npr.org

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

And thus it sure looks like the term "slaughter" can apply to the events listed above, given that they are indeed "indiscriminate" killings since, in almost all cases, the murderer did not know the victims. I suppose that the gun wackos will complain that a "large number" of people were not killed, but I would have to ask them how many murders in a very short time with an assault-style rifle they would need in order to verify that it was a "slaughter".
To me, the killings of 27, 14, 49, 26, 58, and 17 sure seems like a "large number" given that these people were living normal lives up until the second before the slaughter began. The only question is when the next slaughter by AR-15 will happen, and how many will be murdered then.
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I guess you had to list those, simply wasn't enough room to list all the dead in Chicago, huh!
 
watsup said:
Here’s the difference: How long did it take the murderer at VA Tech to kill the victims as opposed to how long it takes a murderer using an AR-15, which typically is just a few minutes, if that long.
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Pistols have the same firing rate and near the same magazine capacity as an Ar-15.
 
Ban guns, let's just use other means of killing. They're not as effective. Guns were made to be very effective. I'd rather our criminals kill the old fashioned way, I stand a better chance of thwarting them that way.
Make America Great Again!! And less Deadly!!
 
watsup said:
Almost 200 people were killed in just 6 incidents using the AR-15 (see the OP).
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The pulse shootings weren't done with an AR-15 style weapon.
Federal officials said a SIG Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle and a 9mm Glock 17 semi-automatic pistol were recovered from Mateen's body,
 
watsup said:
The point of this thread is that when I have used the term “slaughter” in the past to define the mass murder of a large number of people with an AR-15, the gun apologists immediately get all bent out of shape about it, while I see it as a perfectly appropriate term.
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Quote these people getting all bent out of shape by your use of the term "slaughter".
 
watsup said:
The trial of the hateful liar Alex Jones got me to thinking about how the gun wackos get extremely upset when the term "slaughter" is used in reference to mass murders in a very short period of time by a shooter wielding an assault-style rifle. '

Let's take a look at the definition to see if the term slaughter applies. Here is a sample definition that I found numerous times in a Google search of different dictionary definitions: "to kill a large number of people indiscriminately".

Now let's take a look at some of the AR-15 mass murder events of the past 10 years or so:
he following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

  • Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
  • Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
  • Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
  • June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
  • Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
  • Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
www.npr.org

Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

And thus it sure looks like the term "slaughter" can apply to the events listed above, given that they are indeed "indiscriminate" killings since, in almost all cases, the murderer did not know the victims. I suppose that the gun wackos will complain that a "large number" of people were not killed, but I would have to ask them how many murders in a very short time with an assault-style rifle they would need in order to verify that it was a "slaughter".
To me, the killings of 27, 14, 49, 26, 58, and 17 sure seems like a "large number" given that these people were living normal lives up until the second before the slaughter began. The only question is when the next slaughter by AR-15 will happen, and how many will be murdered then.
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I have never seen anyone get upset let alone extremely upset if you use the word slaughter to describe what happened in a mass shooting.
Can you link to someone getting upset that you used that word.

I am sure you are not just making this up right.
 
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