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Has anyone taken LSD, and if so, what did you think?
Has anyone taken LSD, and if so, what did you think?
I don't do drugs, unless you consider an occasional alcoholic beverage a drug. I think many can be dangerous, including alcohol. I heard if you have a history of mental health issues (specifically mood disorders) it can wreak havoc on your short and long term mental health. One of the beach boys claims he has had auditory hallucinations his entire life and blames it on bad acid trips from his youth.
From the little that I've read on it, you could have a "bad trip", but that usually depends on your mood and/or surroundings while taking it, and there usually aren't lasting effects after a day or two.
What I find scary is that there is so much of the brain that we do not know. Personally, I consider my cognitive abilities way too important to take any risks.
Has anyone taken LSD, and if so, what did you think?
Did it, it was pretty fun but I'm way too busy for that kind stuff now. The most important thing you have to remember is this: do not tell anybody your acid stories. They are, beyond all reason, even more boring than being forced to listen to somebody else's dream from last night.
Really? I thought the Beatle's acid stories were pretty interesting.
I didn't read those, but they were song writers so it doesn't surprise me that they were able to make them sound interesting. Normal people who are not gifted with the written or spoken word are going to be insufferable when attempting regale others with their drug stories. Ever listen to someone tell you their dream?
"So then I was flying and I was in Australia, except it wasn't in Australia but I just kind of understood it was and then I was a crab. But I was in front of a class room so I guess I wasn't flying anymore. And then I was driving my old car from college but it was red for some reason even though my real car was white. Why was the car red? Do you suppose it means anything? I should google that to see what the symbolism of that is. So anyway I forget what happened next because I farted so loud I woke myself up, but when I fell back asleep I was in--"
"Shut the **** up!! Nobody cares!!!"
Alright, thanks Cardinal. :yawn:
I agree, I'm not too keen on handing over control of my thoughts to something some possibly sketchy, unregulated dude on the street is selling. Although I have heard some great testaments on how people have become more thoughtful and peaceful after dropping it.
Time I got in here.....
For the record I am a recovered addict-alcoholic who is rather familiar with acid. First, you are unlikely ever again to get pure LSD. In the crudest mixture there will be some strychnine, some speed, some amphetamine etc. In the Owlsley days, an artist of a chemist you could count on acid so pure, you had hours of thinking, analyzing, discovering new concepts, you can vege or try to, but Star Trek no longer about the plot, fist fighting etc., you analyzed it, wrote a paper on the future of communications as driven by standard, plot oriented westerns with space ships....and get an 'A'.
It is not for the feint of heart, as with any stimulus, even beer, there is a paranoid feeling, a sense of losing control which some people cannot handle. However, you are no more out of control physically or mentally than you would be with a lot of coffee, less than being say .08. What is important is circumstances, company, and being able to 'nest', be someplace that has an aura of privacy and safety, like at home.
You will suddenly realize what some songs have been trying to tell you, music can bring mental images, stories about what's happening. A day in the life by the Beatles starts making sense on two levels at least, and I was once told by a guy that when he heard that song on LSD he saw John and Paul being shot on a bus....years before Lennon WAS shot.
It has been used with some limited success in the treatment of alcoholism, however the mad panic over it in the 60's killed any future investigation. I can see how it could be effective with the clarity of thought, the "Eureka!" drug as it was first known when legal. There are on-going experiments in Europe in the treatment of schizophrenea but I have no knowledge of the results or where they took place.
Experiments by various military have said to have taken place with extreme and unlikely stories, you are NOT going to throw yourself out a window without being driven there. However, the only real experiments I know of by any force were those on Canadian and American military personnel in Montreal, supposedly by the CIA in the 50's. Having been a reporter in Montreal and covered the story, the claims of the "victims" are patently exaggerated and have been mostly dismissed.
The Canadian government of the day, John George Diefenbaker, a commie hunting conservative outlawed the drug in Canada despite objections by Health Canada which saw valid research possibilities. Dief as he was known was insane. I do not exaggerate, look up Avril Arrow.
What anyone needs to be aware of is that LSD is very powerful, and very intense. It should not be used for fun, you are not going to go to a night club, you are not going to want crowds, noise or driving for several hours. And, eat a healthy meal an hour before you dose, drink plenty of liquids and have a lot of oranges or grapefruit or any source of vitamin "C". The visual and auditory aspects of LSD are caused by a severe depletion of "C", this is why in the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas they run around the room demanding grapefruit. You will have no appetite while on it.
If this is for a paper PM me
If you are planning on trying psychedelics I personally recommend mushrooms over acid. The trip is shorter, there isn't as much hangover and they tend to be more visual than "heady". I'd also recommend doing them outdoors and with some good friends.
Oh yeah!
A hint, take with peanut butter and milk. It can make the tummy rumble.
Peyote is nice, but intense.....everything has sharp edges, another is Datura...careful though, you eat too much of the root and you die
Never managed to get my hands on peyote and won't touch datura.
While I thoroughly enjoyed my experimentation it's not a part of my life I would choose to go back to. While I never really had any problem with drugs a lot...a WHOLE lot..of the people I hung out with did have problems and I have just found it much easier to deal with most problems sober.
Time I got in here.....
For the record I am a recovered addict-alcoholic who is rather familiar with acid. First, you are unlikely ever again to get pure LSD. In the crudest mixture there will be some strychnine, some speed, some amphetamine etc. In the Owlsley days, an artist of a chemist you could count on acid so pure, you had hours of thinking, analyzing, discovering new concepts, you can vege or try to, but Star Trek no longer about the plot, fist fighting etc., you analyzed it, wrote a paper on the future of communications as driven by standard, plot oriented westerns with space ships....and get an 'A'.
It is not for the feint of heart, as with any stimulus, even beer, there is a paranoid feeling, a sense of losing control which some people cannot handle. However, you are no more out of control physically or mentally than you would be with a lot of coffee, less than being say .08. What is important is circumstances, company, and being able to 'nest', be someplace that has an aura of privacy and safety, like at home.
You will suddenly realize what some songs have been trying to tell you, music can bring mental images, stories about what's happening. A day in the life by the Beatles starts making sense on two levels at least, and I was once told by a guy that when he heard that song on LSD he saw John and Paul being shot on a bus....years before Lennon WAS shot.
It has been used with some limited success in the treatment of alcoholism, however the mad panic over it in the 60's killed any future investigation. I can see how it could be effective with the clarity of thought, the "Eureka!" drug as it was first known when legal. There are on-going experiments in Europe in the treatment of schizophrenea but I have no knowledge of the results or where they took place.
Experiments by various military have said to have taken place with extreme and unlikely stories, you are NOT going to throw yourself out a window without being driven there. However, the only real experiments I know of by any force were those on Canadian and American military personnel in Montreal, supposedly by the CIA in the 50's. Having been a reporter in Montreal and covered the story, the claims of the "victims" are patently exaggerated and have been mostly dismissed.
The Canadian government of the day, John George Diefenbaker, a commie hunting conservative outlawed the drug in Canada despite objections by Health Canada which saw valid research possibilities. Dief as he was known was insane. I do not exaggerate, look up Avril Arrow.
What anyone needs to be aware of is that LSD is very powerful, and very intense. It should not be used for fun, you are not going to go to a night club, you are not going to want crowds, noise or driving for several hours. And, eat a healthy meal an hour before you dose, drink plenty of liquids and have a lot of oranges or grapefruit or any source of vitamin "C". The visual and auditory aspects of LSD are caused by a severe depletion of "C", this is why in the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas they run around the room demanding grapefruit. You will have no appetite while on it.
If this is for a paper PM me
I didn't read those, but they were song writers so it doesn't surprise me that they were able to make them sound interesting. Normal people who are not gifted with the written or spoken word are going to be insufferable when attempting regale others with their drug stories. Ever listen to someone tell you their dream?
"So then I was flying and I was in Australia, except it wasn't in Australia but I just kind of understood it was and then I was a crab. But I was in front of a class room so I guess I wasn't flying anymore. And then I was driving my old car from college but it was red for some reason even though my real car was white. Why was the car red? Do you suppose it means anything? I should google that to see what the symbolism of that is. So anyway I forget what happened next because I farted so loud I woke myself up, but when I fell back asleep I was in--"
"Shut the **** up!! Nobody cares!!!"
:lamo So true.
Hell, I am a wordsmith type, and even I save people the agony unless I can pack all the important bits into a good strong sentence or two. No more than that.
Anyway, OP, regarding acid, and avoiding the terrible bore of telling you trip stories, I personally had a good time with it. Environment is important, as others said, and I'd recommend you have a "trip sitter" who's reasonably sober. I think people have the mistaken impression that acid is necessarily visual-heavy, like supercharged mushrooms. It isn't. Visuals often do happen, but I would characterize acid as much more mental than sensory.
I hit the point that many people do where, after a trip, my brain just said, "Ok, that was fun. I'm done with hallucinogens now." So I stopped.
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