Anybody care to discuss -isms ???

[Empirica]

Here are the big eight that we all love, hate and fear and the definitions below might surprise you!

Capitalism/Liberalism/Socialism/Marxism/Communism/Totalitarianism/Fascism/Progressivism

Definitions below in blue Courtesy of: Dictionary and Thesaurus | Merriam-Webster

Here's a few cool topics to consider for discussion or feel free to use your imagination and let fly!

Which -ism do you believe would provide the most protection of freedom, individual rights and civil liberties; regardless of race, religion, gender or any other differences?

Which -ism do you believe would provide the best, fairest and most abundant economic opportunities to the most people?

Which -ism do you believe would promote the highest level of importance for education, science, technology and the arts?

Is there any combinations of -isms you believe might work better together than independently?
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Full Definition of capitalism
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
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Full Definition of liberalism
1: the quality or state of being liberal
2 a- often capitalized: a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity
b: a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard
c: a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class)
d- capitalized: the principles and policies of a Liberal party
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Full Definition of socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
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Full Definition of Marxism
: The political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society
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Full Definition of communism
1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property
b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d: communist systems collectively
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Definition of totalitarianism
1: centralized control by an autocratic authority
2: the political concept that the citizen should be totally subject to an absolute state authority
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Full Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
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Definition of progressivism
1: the principles, beliefs, or practices of progressives
2 - capitalized: the political and economic doctrines advocated by the Progressives
3: the theories of progressive education

 

[Redress]

I am a firm advocate for blackfontism, the idea that black fonts are superior, and lesser colored fonts are not to be read.

 

[Oberon]

They are all sub-categories of 'Cretinism'. What's to 'discuss' about them, exactly?

 

[dimensionallava]

 

[Risky Thicket]

Ism, ism, ism. All we are saying is give peace a chance.

 

[Empirica]

I am a firm advocate for blackfontism, the idea that black fonts are superior, and lesser colored fonts are not to be read.

It's quite common for some people to concoct imaginary issues to advocate for the purpose of creating non-existent victims to garner support for their particular -ism_

I noticed you self-identify as "Very Liberal"__might that in any way support my assessment?

They are all sub-categories of 'Cretinism'. What's to 'discuss' about them, exactly?

I suppose nothing for those with closed locked minds and view humanity as "cretins"!

So exactly what is it about Communism that you believe to be beneficial to people?

And are there any aspects which you might not entirely agree with for some reason?

Ism, ism, ism. All we are saying is give peace a chance.

I agree with all my heart__peace brother! eace

But is there any particular -ism that you believe is best structured to "give peace a chance"?

 

[Ntharotep]

So you are both for Buddhism

Oh, as a note:
Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment.
Just because its another one that gets thrown around a lot.

And one that should be thrown around more because it is embodied a lot on DP is:
nationalism definition. The strong belief that the interests of a particular nation-state are of primary importance. Also, the belief that a people who share a common language, history, and culture should constitute an independent nation, free of foreign domination.

One of my favorites that is rarely ever used or embraced...
Unitarianism is an open-minded and individualistic approach to religion that gives scope for a very wide range of beliefs and doubts.

 

[Risky Thicket]

I agree with all my heart__peace brother! eace

But is there any particular -ism that you believe is best structured to "give peace a chance"?

Ahhhh, I don't know. "Orgism" which is maybe a brief orgasm?

 

[Risky Thicket]

I agree with all my heart__peace brother! eace

But is there any particular -ism that you believe is best structured to "give peace a chance"?

From the start it would be most helpful to the world if we could somehow end literalism. Nothing is black or white. Even black people or white people. In practice their is no perfect political or social or religious ism of which I am aware.

People profess displeasure for socialism and their love for capitalism. Which socialism? Which capitalism? There is a little of both in each kind. Some of us can and do accept that. Literalists cannot accept it. Literalists are most of the extremists of any political or religious persuasion. Literalists a literally a pain in the ass.

Governing even in a supposed democracy requires compromise and balance. The attempt to balance is ever present. At any given time a greater emphasis on a form of capitalism is required. Later, emphasis a form of socialism might be need to offset an over balance of a form of capitalism.

We need capitalism, socialism, conservatism, liberalism, libertarianism though I don't believe we need all forms of each ism.

 

[Risky Thicket]

So you are both for Buddhism

Buddhism works me. I would never suggest or consider that any religion or the beliefs of any religion, including mine, be imposed on anyone.

One of my favorites that is rarely ever used or embraced...
Unitarianism is an open-minded and individualistic approach to religion that gives scope for a very wide range of beliefs and doubts.

That is a fine ism. I could/would totally support that.

 

[Redress]

It's quite common for some people to concoct imaginary issues to advocate for the purpose of creating non-existent victims to garner support for their particular -ism_

I noticed you self-identify as "Very Liberal"__might that in any way support my assessment?

Have you often struggled to recognize sarcasm? Nosenseofhumorism?

 

[Ntharotep]

From the start it would be most helpful to the world if we could somehow end literalism. Nothing is black or white. Even black people or white people. In practice their is no perfect political or social or religious ism of which I am aware.

People profess displeasure for socialism and their love for capitalism. Which socialism? Which capitalism? There is a little of both in each kind. Some of us can and do accept that. Literalists cannot accept it. Literalists are most of the extremists of any political or religious persuasion. Literalists a literally a pain in the ass.

Governing even in a supposed democracy requires compromise and balance. The attempt to balance is ever present. At any given time a greater emphasis on a form of capitalism is required. Later, emphasis a form of socialism might be need to offset an over balance of a form of capitalism.

We need capitalism, socialism, conservatism, liberalism, libertarianism though I don't believe we need all forms of each ism.

This is a nice goal, it might be a driving goal that is never truly reached but nice, nonetheless.
Literalism, Generalization, and labeling all go hand in hand. For whatever reason, it seems to be human nature to put things in a nice little box instead of observing each instance (and person) on a case by case basis (I think this lends to lazy thinking really).
If you are a conservative you must also be x, x, and x...if you are a liberal you must always be x, x, and x...this is evidenced a lot on political sites (including DP) where you see threads that amount to "oh, you conservatives..." or "oh, you liberals..." because people with labels are all exactly the same you know...
Its maddening really, human nature or not.

 

[Empirica]

So you are both for Buddhism

Buddhism is a wonderful concept of individual development and enlightenment for people in need of such guidance_

And thankfully I don't happen to be one of them!

Oh, as a note:
Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment.
Just because its another one that gets thrown around a lot.

Being a personal favorite, it's certainly one that I "throw around a lot"_

Especially because of its warm acceptance of free market capitalism_

And one that should be thrown around more because it is embodied a lot on DP is:
nationalism definition. The strong belief that the interests of a particular nation-state are of primary importance. Also, the belief that a people who share a common language, history, and culture should constitute an independent nation, free of foreign domination.

I like the definition of Nationalism__I believe I'll take your advise and throw it around more myself_

One of my favorites that is rarely ever used or embraced...
Unitarianism is an open-minded and individualistic approach to religion that gives scope for a very wide range of beliefs and doubts.

And one than will most likely never catch on!

The biggest reason being; every Unitarian would have to build their own church_ :giggle1:

Ahhhh, I don't know. "Orgism" which is maybe a brief orgasm?

It appears you suffered a momentary lapse into "give sarcasm a chance"_

Welcome back to "give peace a chance" RT! eace

From the start it would be most helpful to the world if we could somehow end literalism. Nothing is black or white. Even black people or white people. In practice their is no perfect political or social or religious ism of which I am aware.

People profess displeasure for socialism and their love for capitalism. Which socialism? Which capitalism? There is a little of both in each kind. Some of us can and do accept that. Literalists cannot accept it. Literalists are most of the extremists of any political or religious persuasion. Literalists a literally a pain in the ass.

Sorry RT; but I'm a realist which pretty much translates to "literalists" which you blame for so much angst_

Imo; the "literalists" you allude to are in reality nothing more than radical morons____literally!

Governing even in a supposed democracy requires compromise and balance. The attempt to balance is ever present. At any given time a greater emphasis on a form of capitalism is required. Later, emphasis a form of socialism might be need to offset an over balance of a form of capitalism.

We need capitalism, socialism, conservatism, liberalism, libertarianism though I don't believe we need all forms of each ism.

People are not going to abandon their personal -isms until they can unanimously agree on one!

Have you often struggled to recognize sarcasm? Nosenseofhumorism?

No but you obviously have_ :giggle1: