Any theories on why Trump is sending troops?

[MAGAnificent]

Don't know about them, but Emperor Trumpatine sure loves crime. At least when he's the perpetrator.

Nonsense post.

 

[Nickyjo]

That's funny coming from the left that has pushed "Defund the Police" movements.

“Defund the police” had to be one of the dumbest political slogans ever. But the good news is that it sparked creative discussion to reimagine policing in our communities. But the part in italics, tho putting it better, would be have been a non-slogan.

 

[SCrider]

I sort of asked this elsewhere with other questions, but want to repeat just the query in the subject line. What are the various theories commentators and DP participants have as to why Trump decided to send unrequested troops to US cities at a time when crime is down? Has Trump explained this in any rational way?

He wants to provoke a fight so he can declare martial law.

 

[Nickyjo]

He wants to provoke a fight so he can declare martial law.

Do you think it’s that serious? I assume the consequences of declaring martial law, even if the deployment met resistance would be serious, with even some republicans growing a pair and challenging him.

Then again, I keep getting my concerns about Trump “one-upped” by his new moves, so maybe I am naive. I hope this is as close as we get to fascism, but it’s only Donald’s first year.

 

[SCrider]

Do you think it’s that serious? I assume the consequences of declaring martial law, even if the deployment met resistance would be serious, with even some republicans growing a pair and challenging him.

Then again, I keep getting my concerns about Trump “one-upped” by his new moves, so maybe I am naive. I hope this is as close as we get to fascism, but it’s only Donald’s first year.

I would not put it past Miller. He is the brains behind Trump and is pure evil.

 

[NotreDame]

There is no military occupation. It's just National Guard troops working with local police to solve out of control crime and it has been done by many presidents and governors:

Times Presidents Sent The National Guard To Cities To Quell 'Insurrections'

Throughout American history, several presidents have faced situations where deploying the National Guard became necessary to maintain order and uphold federal laws. These deployments often occurred during times of significant civil unrest, when the nation was grappling with issues such as racial...

www.ranker.com

First, none of the historical instances of Presidents federalizing the NG or use of federal military force was to “working with local police to solve out of control crime.”

None.

Second, do you know which federal statute Trump has invoked to federalize the NG for deployment to Portland and Chicago?

 

[Nickyjo]

There is no military occupation. It's just National Guard troops working with local police to solve out of control crime and it has been done by many presidents and governors:

Times Presidents Sent The National Guard To Cities To Quell 'Insurrections'

Throughout American history, several presidents have faced situations where deploying the National Guard became necessary to maintain order and uphold federal laws. These deployments often occurred during times of significant civil unrest, when the nation was grappling with issues such as racial...

www.ranker.com

Crime had been down, hadn’t you heard? This is just a combination of Trump waving his dick around and attempting to distract from Epstein and the hit we’ll soon take with his dumb tariffs.

 

[Craig234]

He's trying to be able to use the military for control of the country against protests as he harms people, IMO.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Crime had been down, hadn’t you heard?

I don't buy it.

This is just a combination of Trump waving his dick around and attempting to distract from Epstein

If there was anything embarrassing to Trump in regard to Epstein, your dementia addled buddy Biden would have quickly released it.

and the hit we’ll soon take with his dumb tariffs.

Trump's tariffs are just imposing on the rest of the world what they have been imposing on the US for decades. Those tariffs imposed by others were a big part of American manufacturing moving to places like Mexico, Canada, Europe, Vietnam, etc. The tariffs imposed by Trump are bringing jobs back to the US. And Biden kept tariffs Trump imposed during his first term. That you do not want to understand that is on you.

 

[MAGAnificent]

First, none of the historical instances of Presidents federalizing the NG or use of federal military force was to “working with local police to solve out of control crime.”

None.

When Presidents Sent the National Guard Into U.S. Cities: A Complete History of Why, How, and Backlash

From Eisenhower and civil rights showdowns to Trump and modern protests, here’s every major time a president deployed troops for unrest — and what happened next.

brendonbeebe.substack.com

 

[MAGAnificent]

“Defund the police” had to be one of the dumbest political slogans ever.

It was not just a slogan, your democrat politicians pushed defund the police movement, with some level of successfully defunding police.

 

[Juin]

I sort of asked this elsewhere with other questions, but want to repeat just the query in the subject line. What are the various theories commentators and DP participants have as to why Trump decided to send unrequested troops to US cities at a time when crime is down? Has Trump explained this in any rational way?

Is it sufficient that crime is just down?

 

[Juin]

Has something to do with out-of-control violent crime in some cities that the state or local politicians don't seem to have the inspiration to solve.

Or consider certain crimes a necessary and protected political expression

 

[Juin]

So, when will Chicago solve their crime problem?

Some of its politicians may lose their jobs if there is no crime.

 

[Juin]

Absolutism is such a stupid debate position. Out of 37 US cities with more than 500K residents, Chicago ranks 29th in violent crime.

It should rank 38th

 

[Juin]

Two reasons:

Control crime. Deport illegals. Democrats won't do it so the federal government has to, whether the locals like it or not.

Illegals being future Democrats their deportation is negative to the wellbeing of the Democratic Party

 

[Juin]

Crime is down and illegals have been deported under democrats and republicans for years.

Crime is down but not out

 

[Juin]

Kristallnacht

Kriminalnacht

 

[Juin]

I have this theory that has the interesting characteristic of being utterly incomprehensible to those on the political left: he's doing it to enforce immigration laws that blue state officials keep saying is not their job to do.

If illegals are future Democrats it will be contrary to the interests of Democratic officials to enforce immigration laws. Why drain the swamp if you thrive in the swamp?

 

[Variant]

Even granting that, what more specifically is motivating him to do this? Is it a distraction from the Epstein thing, going after places governed by Democrats, or something else?

And with respect to Loulit01’s comment, have neutral figures, democrats os any republicans expressed concerns about his mental state?

It's a power play specifically one meant to draw out a response that he can use to declare more emergencies and consolidate more power.

It's also a distraction meant to inflame his opponents and rile up his base as he meant to do it because he's "tough on crime" or some such.

The problem is that it's based entirely on incredibly bad and thin lies that ONLY his most ardent supporters would accept.

 

[Juin]

Don't know about them, but Emperor Trumpatine sure loves crime. At least when he's the perpetrator.

Lol

 

[Tangmo]

The NG would only be there to work with police to get control. The solution would have to include state and local politicians addressing the causes. You mentioned social programs. That's part of the problem with inner city crime. LBJ era Great Society social programs that still exist today have institutionalized the inner-city poverty that leads to such crime. Something has to change.

Right wingers supporting LBJ's programs dating back to the late 1960s would have made a big difference positively.

Right wing ideological opposition to LBJ's "Great Society" which is terminology he borrowed from the Bible was and always has been dogmatic and highly partisan. It has kept right wingers out of LBJ's "War On Poverty" in the USA.

The Right has obstructed it at every turn and unrelentingly. The right wing since then has become the MAGAs of the present who are destroying in its entirely what you call the "Administrative State." Indeed, the Right has always been at the core of the problem while offering zero approaches to rectifying it. The Right has instead and for decades been turning off the lights all over the country. And blaming the Left.

 

[Tangmo]

That's funny coming from the left that has pushed "Defund the Police" movements.

MAGAs have their crackpots too don't we know.

It's going to happen and it does happen.

Which puts your glass house at a great risk.

 

[Tangmo]

To crush the opposition, bending and breaking Blue strongholds, to ensure they won't do anything to stop him in the future.

To include control over ensuring the '26 midterm voting and elections go MAGAs way entirely.

TrumpMAGAMiller have absolute control over the federal government in Washington.

They are NEVER going to allow or accept voting and elections to reverse that in any way.

Which is why Trump doesn't give a rat's arse about polling that shows his popularity and approval has sunk like the proverbial rock. This does not matter when you're going to control the voting and the outcome of the '26 midterm elections. Which in turn will make the quadrennial voting and election in '28 a cakewalk.

 

[Roadvirus]

Trump's tariffs are just imposing on the rest of the world what they have been imposing on the US for decades.

That's a lie.

The tariffs on Brazil are politically motivated, because the courts dared to prosecute Trump's buddy for committing crimes.