FinnMacCool
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FinnMacCool said:http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=3091
This is gonna be an interesting event to watch on tv. I wonder if the conservatives are going to keep ignoring them now.
Despite whether there is a truth or not to any of this you bush supporters better watch out.
It seems like all of this anti Iraq stuff is starting to heat up now? Why? Cause this is what goes on in the peoples minds?
Where are the National Guard? Oh they're in Iraq
Oh yeah and that money that was supposed to go to the levees? Yeah we spent that on a war instead.
So yeah I think conservatives are kinda screwed now. Well lets sit back and enjoy the political fireworks.
You had me laughing until the last sentence...kal-el said:O man, you definetly are non-partisan. You need to chill out, I sense alot of tension there. I am willing to bet that you pee sitting down.:2razz:
cnredd said:You had me laughing until the last sentence...
Don't make me get out the Moderator robes.:naughty
Yeah, I suppose if I'm not ANTI-something I can't be part of your "cool" "in" crowd...... and by respectable I mean we won't be protesting something that offends us by being offensive ourselves.FinnMacCool said:What makes your march more "respectable"?
Oh by the way, not to be outdone with posting useless images here is one of mine.
aps said:I did not attend the protest, but went into DC for the day. On my way home, I saw a bunch of people with signs who oppose the war. There were definitely those who support the war there to protest the anti-war protest.
Can someone explain to me why people assume that those of us who do not support this war somehow don't support our troops? I don't get that. I support our troops. I care when they die. I care when they get injured. I want them out of Iraq so that they aren't getting killed, maimed, and their families aren't suffering because their spouse, child, relative is dead.
GySgt said:Because it doesn't make any sense to us.
GySgt said:Our sense of morality and honor is higher than the average citizen. This is why, we do not understand their protests. Their wish to "save our lives" now, will only create more deaths later.
Navy Pride said:Just a bunch of leftover hippies from the sixties burning their American Flags and shouting anti- military slogans and waving their anti military signs........No more no less..
It was so discussing seeing them outside Walter Reed Hospital a couple of weeks ago harrassing the wounded troops............They have no shame..........
Why don't you liberals wise up and smell the roses? President Bush is not driven by your whacked out polls and is going to see this job through to the finish.........
wrath said:If only I could believe that their intentions were as noble as saving our soldiers lives. Considering what I've seen from a majority of their protests, I'd be a fool to come to that conclusion.
aps said:Navy Pride, are you really a professor? I find that hard to believe based on this nonsense that you are posting.
Do you have a link to show me where I could read about the anti-war protestors harassing the troops outside Walter Reed. If they did that, that is awful.
So what would my wising up and smelling the roses entail? In some ways, I am glad he is continuing with this war, since he is becoming so unpopular that people may be ready to vote for a democrat at the next presidential election, and hopefully will cause people like Rick Santorum to lose his seat in the senate.
BTW, the majority of Americans think the war is a mistake.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/19/bush.poll/
Fifty-nine percent said they considered the 2003 invasion of Iraq a mistake. That figure is the highest recorded in a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.
aps said:For example?
That's how I felt about abortion protestors too. Now, I know that they're all bombers, snipers and assorted murderers. Their comrades ruined it for all of them.FiremanRyan said:and if you're a sympathizer of these protesters, please dont quote me and say that im making a blanket statement and that not all demonstrators are children because i dont care anymore, your comrades ruined it for all of you.
Liberals, pacifists, and anti-war protesters offer the world nothing.
War and the men that would risk it all waging it have shaped our world. History has recorded it for all to see. The aggressions of history would cover the world with Nazism, Communism, and Fundamental Islam.
Through the anti-Semitic hate of the European Nazi, we would see the complete extinction of Jews and the Jewish religion as just a start. Nazism carries with it an air of superiority. Hitler’s Nazism would have seen the complete persecution of all people, races, and their religions because they were less than “Aryan”. The “Culturally inferior” would have all succumbed to the power of the swastika.
Through Communism, we have seen represssive states that dominated every aspect of life. The Communist states often practice censorship. The level of censorship varies widely between different states and historical periods, but it nearly always exists to a greater or lesser extent. This censorship includes the arts, science, and dissent. Large scale human rights violations are very common in Communist states. Most prominent were deaths due to executions, forced labor camps, genocides of certain ethnic minorities, and mass starvations caused by either government mismanagement or deliberately. Lesser violations include religious and ethnic persecutions, sytematic use of torture as part of police procedure, and the complete lack of democracy.
Through Fundamental Islam, we have seen a very similar movement that reflects that of the Communists and surpasses the Nazi movement. The persecution of Jews and the never ending terror levied against Israel is more of the same Euro anti-semetic bigotry practiced over a period of time. In the Sudan we saw over two million Christians slaughtered in man’s latest holocaust mission. All religions aren’t merely seen as inferior, but are seen as the practice of “infidels”. The spread of oppression through religious restrictions is deadly to anyone that practices or wishes to practice a freer life style. The censorship of the arts, sciences, and dissent is not merely a crime against the state, but a crime against “God”. The spread of this new form of evil masking as a religion, is something the military has been warning America and the rest of the world about since the 1980's to deaf ears. Bin Laden, Al-Queda, and the failing Middle Eastern civilization, which is causing this spread of blasphemous Islamic extremism, has been appeased for two decades. We are still screaming the warnings, and people are still refusing to see it.
To face the aggressions of such tyrannies and to fight the cruel government’s that these ideologies are practiced and glorified, brave men must take up arms. There is such a thing as “good and evil.” Dismissing such truths by remarking that “good and evil” is merely a person’s perception of right and wrong is irresponsible at best. The armies of darkness can only be defeated by the conviction of better men that hold everyone’s freedoms high above any dictator’s or religious zealot’s sense of societal rule. Where is the liberal or pascifist in this? What do they really offer? Do we need a group of “holier than thou” individuals telling us that war is bad and to point out every civilian killed through a missile strike or that was caught up in a fire fight? After we all admit the obvious, is it enough to hold back man’s cruelest militaries from marching across our lands? No. Negative aggression will never be defeated through appeasement. Death and destruction is very necessary to combat these evils. It will always be better for the few to die now than the many to suffer later. Liberals, pacifists, and anti-war protesters neither are the aggressor nor are they a part of the defense of good. They merely take up space, voice the obvious, and get in the way through their protests.
Our sense of morality and honor is higher than the average citizen. This is why, we do not understand their protests. Their wish to "save our lives" now, will only create more deaths later.
Well can you cite any at the pro-America that read anything like these at the anti-America rallyFinnMacCool said:What makes your march more "respectable"?
FinnMacCool said:You think Ghandi merely just took up space? He didn't resort to violence and look at what he achieved.
Everything about your post disgusts me. I wonder if you will ever get tired of fighting wars. We've been doing it since the beginning of time really. Nothing has changed. fighting evil with evil isn't gonna cut it.
Please forgive me my morally superior marine if I offended you in any way.
And you know something GySgt? You could at least try and tell your fellow moral soldiers that nuking the middle east and killing millions of innocents is wrong. you seem very careful not to take a stance on that for some reason. I dunno why.
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