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That's right. Anybody who would limit freedom of any kind is lower than a worm. I used to think that there should be some limits. Such as in a promotion for pedophilia. But now, I say **** it. If you aren't allowed to say things that are objectionable to a lesser degree, you should be allowed to say anything. I will show you what some people had to say about free speech. Do you agree or disagree with them.
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The usual argument, is that one has free speech, but one has to be aware and accept the consequences of speaking one's mind.
As long as what a person says/writes does not cause physical injury or death, then a person should have the freedom to express whatever they wish. The idea today seems to be that a person has free speech, but, if they DARE to exercise that free speech then that person will most likely lose their job, their friends, their future income (because everything is recorded now), perhaps their family, then THAT IS NOT FREE SPEECH.
We have a prackie in the staffroom at the moment, and the discussion was on what was deemed politically incorrect in today's society (the conversations teachers have during a lunch break can be interesting). I stated that because they are all lefties/socialists, they can say whatever they want, but because I am a conservative, if I said what I thought, then I would lose my job. He stared at me, and being a prackie he had the common sense to keep his opinion to himself, but I have an idea of what he now thinks of me.
Free speech means free speech and it doesn't matter if it offends someone's fragile little ego. We do not have free speech in either Australia or America, no matter how people argue that we do.
The usual argument, is that one has free speech, but one has to be aware and accept the consequences of speaking one's mind.
As long as what a person says/writes does not cause physical injury or death, then a person should have the freedom to express whatever they wish. The idea today seems to be that a person has free speech, but, if they DARE to exercise that free speech then that person will most likely lose their job, their friends, their future income (because everything is recorded now), perhaps their family, then THAT IS NOT FREE SPEECH.
We have a prackie in the staffroom at the moment, and the discussion was on what was deemed politically incorrect in today's society (the conversations teachers have during a lunch break can be interesting). I stated that because they are all lefties/socialists, they can say whatever they want, but because I am a conservative, if I said what I thought, then I would lose my job. He stared at me, and being a prackie he had the common sense to keep his opinion to himself, but I have an idea of what he now thinks of me.
Free speech means free speech and it doesn't matter if it offends someone's fragile little ego. We do not have free speech in either Australia or America, no matter how people argue that we do.
For the most part, there is freedom of speech but not freedom from consequence. Let's examine your example of pedophilia.
For the most part, you can promote the ides of free-love & hardcore sex with children via oration or writings or music or whatever all day without fear of being arrested. However, do it loud enough and you just might find yourself ostracized, unemployable, driven out of neighborhoods, etc.
IMO, that is how it should be.
Of course people should have the right to speak their mind. This doesn't mean other people are going to like what you say...
Free speech is okay with me as long as they're not climate deniers or anti-vaxxers. Those people need to be banned.
No. I say let the human caused global warming deniers and anti vaccine idiots speak all they want. Not being in the right, what they have to say means nothing. Any debate with them will end badly for them.
For the most part, there is freedom of speech but not freedom from consequence. Let's examine your example of pedophilia.
For the most part, you can promote the ides of free-love & hardcore sex with children via oration or writings or music or whatever all day without fear of being arrested. However, do it loud enough and you just might find yourself ostracized, unemployable, driven out of neighborhoods, etc.
IMO, that is how it should be.
Free speech is okay with me as long as they're not climate deniers or anti-vaxxers. Those people need to be banned.
You shouldn't be telling me this. You should be telling every moderator at just about every forum that exists. Then prepare to be ignored by them.
Forums are typically privately owned. The owner has the right to limit speech if they choose. It sucks, but not much can be done about it, and the echo chamber effect just adds to the polarization.
That's right. Anybody who would limit freedom of any kind is lower than a worm. I used to think that there should be some limits. Such as in a promotion for pedophilia. But now, I say **** it. If you aren't allowed to say things that are objectionable to a lesser degree, you should be allowed to say anything. I will show you what some people had to say about free speech. Do you agree or disagree with them.
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No matter what it is or where it may lead, truth is always best. Always! Without any doubt.
Some truths are better left unsaid.
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