Anti-cop ice cream chain sues Seattle over 'significant losses' from BLM autonomous zone they promoted

[Maidenrules29]

You CAN'T make this shit up........

2020: "We support CHAZ/CHOP. We dont want police in our neighborhood".......

2023, after looking at P&L statements....

"Our business is ruined. The city of Seattle and the police should have done something about CHOP!! Meanwhile, we still support CHOP".......

Anti-cop ice cream chain sues Seattle over ‘significant losses’ from BLM autonomous zone they promoted

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message.”

thepostmillennial.com

 

[Lursa]

You CAN'T make this shit up........

2020: "We support CHAZ/CHOP. We dont want police in our neighborhood".......

2023, after looking at P&L statements....

"Our business is ruined. The city of Seattle and the police should have done something about CHOP!! Meanwhile, we still support CHOP".......

Anti-cop ice cream chain sues Seattle over ‘significant losses’ from BLM autonomous zone they promoted

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message.”

thepostmillennial.com

Why is supporting peaceful protests while expecting the police/first responders to do their jobs wrong?

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message,” the lawsuit stated. “Rather, this lawsuit is about the plaintiff’s constitutional and other legal rights, of which were overrun by the City of Seattle’s decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public at large, and then materially support and encourage a hostile occupation of that neighborhood. The City’s decision subjected businesses, employees, and residents of that neighborhood to extensive property damage, public safety dangers, and an inability to use and access their properties.” link​

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That they didnt stay peaceful is largely the fault of the lack of policing.

 

[Maidenrules29]

Why is supporting peaceful protests while expecting the police/first responders to do their jobs wrong?

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message,” the lawsuit stated. “Rather, this lawsuit is about the plaintiff’s constitutional and other legal rights, of which were overrun by the City of Seattle’s decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public at large, and then materially support and encourage a hostile occupation of that neighborhood. The City’s decision subjected businesses, employees, and residents of that neighborhood to extensive property damage, public safety dangers, and an inability to use and access their properties.” link​

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That they didnt stay peaceful is largely the fault of the lack of policing.

You can't cordon off a whole section of a city and say you are "autonomous" and don't need police, and then later say "where were the police?" when you figure out your business was affected by no customers coming in because no one wanted to go to a section of the city that was crime-ridden. The protestors who created CHOP/CHAZ and the businesses that supported them said they didn't want police. The police obliged them. Very simple.

 

[Lursa]

You can't cordon off a whole section of a city and say you are "autonomous" and don't need police, and then later say "where were the police?" when you figure out your business was affected by no customers coming in because no one wanted to go to a section of the city that was crime-ridden. The protestors who created CHOP/CHAZ and the businesses that supported them said they didn't want police. The police obliged them. Very simple.

The businesses didnt do that. And why not 'support' the peaceful protesters? Why lose $ if you dont have to? (Btw it was peaceful and even inviting during the day...tents and booths with info and water, etc set up...people were not "kept out" of that zone.)

And they had no way of dealing with any 'violence,' that's not their jobs, nor did they support that.

Just like with most such movements, there are actual criminals that take advantage, esp. at night, and loot, set fires, commit violence. Maybe the cops should have cleared CHOP every night?

 

[Maidenrules29]

The businesses didnt do that.

Isn't this particular business (ice cream shop) on the record for supporting CHOP? You can't have it both ways.

 

[Lursa]

Isn't this particular business (ice cream shop) on the record for supporting CHOP? You can't have it both ways.

See my edits. And why not? They supported BLM and peaceful protests.

 

[Maidenrules29]

Why is supporting peaceful protests while expecting the police/first responders to do their jobs wrong?

Because these particular peaceful protestors protested by saying they wanted an area with no police. And this ice cream business supported that. Which means they agreed that no police was a good thing. Then when it backfired they changed their mind. Get it?

 

[Maidenrules29]

See my edits. And why not? They supported BLM and peaceful protests.

They supported NO POLICE IN THEIR AREA!!!!!!!!

 

[Maidenrules29]

Maybe the cops should have cleared CHOP every night?

Nope. The protestors who set up CHOP wanted no cops and that's what they got. Any outside instigators should have been expected by them. Hindsight is 20/20 right?

 

[Crovax]

Why is supporting peaceful protests while expecting the police/first responders to do their jobs wrong?

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message,” the lawsuit stated. “Rather, this lawsuit is about the plaintiff’s constitutional and other legal rights, of which were overrun by the City of Seattle’s decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public at large, and then materially support and encourage a hostile occupation of that neighborhood. The City’s decision subjected businesses, employees, and residents of that neighborhood to extensive property damage, public safety dangers, and an inability to use and access their properties.” link​

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That they didnt stay peaceful is largely the fault of the lack of policing.

Considering there is an Instagram post by the business praising the police abandoning the area, they are full of shit.

 

[Maidenrules29]

Considering there is an Instagram post by the business praising the police abandoning the area, they are full of shit.

Yep.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Why is supporting peaceful protests while expecting the police/first responders to do their jobs wrong?

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message,” the lawsuit stated. “Rather, this lawsuit is about the plaintiff’s constitutional and other legal rights, of which were overrun by the City of Seattle’s decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public at large, and then materially support and encourage a hostile occupation of that neighborhood. The City’s decision subjected businesses, employees, and residents of that neighborhood to extensive property damage, public safety dangers, and an inability to use and access their properties.” link​

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That they didnt stay peaceful is largely the fault of the lack of policing.

That they didn't stay peaceful is because they are low life scum sucking dogs with no moral compass. The intended to do as they pleased.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

See my edits. And why not? They supported BLM and peaceful protests.

"Peaceful protests".....LOL!!!!

You're KILLING with that bit!!

 

[phoenix2020]

If they didn’t want police, they shouldn’t now sue for the absence of police. I hope this case is thrown out.

 

[Phys251]

"Peaceful protests".....LOL!!!!

You're KILLING with that bit!!

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Mostly peaceful, like most trump supporters are peaceful.

 

[DarkWizard12]

Why is supporting peaceful protests while expecting the police/first responders to do their jobs wrong?

because had they done their jobs, chop would have never been a thing.

 

[Lursa]

Because these particular peaceful protestors protested by saying they wanted an area with no police. And this ice cream business supported that. Which means they agreed that no police was a good thing. Then when it backfired they changed their mind. Get it?

For good reason. They were peaceful and were protesting the treatment they got from the police. That doesnt mean they get to have 'no police.' That was a dumb decision by Seattle and one particularly stupid bitch who ran for city council as a socialist. Shama Sawant. She personally broke the law at least twice...and faced charges later...during that event. (She let protesters into a city building and she gave out the Seattle mayor's home address...where she ended up being confronted and threatened)

And who said the protesters changed their minds? You seem to connect the protesters with the violence. They werent the same things...they didnt come to destroy or harm...they were demanding change.

I'm not saying the incident was handled well...but it's not the businesses' faults.

 

[Lursa]

because had they done their jobs, chop would have never been a thing.

Correct. In the decades (centuries) leading up to it (causing the reason for it) and during it. But it was the city that didnt allow them to 'do their jobs' during the latter.

 

[Lursa]

Nope. The protestors who set up CHOP wanted no cops and that's what they got. Any outside instigators should have been expected by them. Hindsight is 20/20 right?

And so what does that have to do with the businesses? Do you think they could have driven the protesters out? I support their protests...should I not have cops respond to my property if there's violence?

The city handled it badly.

 

[Lursa]

Considering there is an Instagram post by the business praising the police abandoning the area, they are full of shit.

link?

 

[Lursa]

Because these particular peaceful protestors protested by saying they wanted an area with no police. And this ice cream business supported that. Which means they agreed that no police was a good thing. Then when it backfired they changed their mind. Get it?

They supported NO POLICE IN THEIR AREA!!!!!!!!

You are telling everyone what "they meant." Where did they say that? I can support BLM...and do...and still want police presence...do you think that the businesses could pick and choose? I want see @Crovax's instagram quote.

BLM doesnt mean 'no police'. That was an offshoot that happened...and the cops should have nipped it in the bud. They didnt know what to do...just like the Capitol police on Jan 6...sure everything could have been stopped faster if bullets had started flying. I'm pretty sure neither city of Seattle or the Capitol were prepared for those events.

Those are reasons, not excuses. I'm not excusing the city's decision to allow it to go on.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

You CAN'T make this shit up........

2020: "We support CHAZ/CHOP. We dont want police in our neighborhood".......

2023, after looking at P&L statements....

"Our business is ruined. The city of Seattle and the police should have done something about CHOP!! Meanwhile, we still support CHOP".......

Anti-cop ice cream chain sues Seattle over ‘significant losses’ from BLM autonomous zone they promoted

“This lawsuit does not seek to undermine CHOP participants’ message or present a counter message.”

thepostmillennial.com

Do you have a point or is this just another waste of bandwidth?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

They supported NO POLICE IN THEIR AREA!!!!!!!!

Oh, so your point was made by adding a thousand !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and ALL CAPS?
Is there something everyone else should have done to fix the problem?

 

[dockside]

You can't cordon off a whole section of a city and say you are "autonomous" and don't need police, and then later say "where were the police?" when you figure out your business was affected by no customers coming in because no one wanted to go to a section of the city that was crime-ridden. The protestors who created CHOP/CHAZ and the businesses that supported them said they didn't want police. The police obliged them. Very simple.

I live near Seattle and the area cordoned off was only 6 square blocks. Hardly a whole section of a city.

 

[Super Chief]

The businesses didnt do that. And why not 'support' the peaceful protesters?

BLM are not peaceful protestors, they are anarchists.