Re: Another way of looking at abortion…
Dude, maybe need to check for a higher diopter on those reading glasses... just proved the overwhelming hypocrisy of your approach/stance, being beyond being simply hypocritical. But if I am talking out my arse, it appears the toothless wonder speaks only truth. I know that must stink for you, tho.
Not in the stone age, ol chap. You would have to be quite the salesman to get me to want me to trade modern America for the contemporary collapsing European dystopia. No No Noo thanks. You can keep it, you folks over there made your own social hell all on your own, now it appears you are just gonna have to live in/with it.
We pretty much have that situation now, that you speak of, with abortion being legal. We, too many of us, are trying to follow the lousy liberal lead you are promoting from over there. But we can see, in real time, your collapse occurring... why would we ever want that? On the other hand, if we go back to making murdering unborn children illegal, like we should, females will resume their strong roles in choosing better, more reliable males as life mates... instead of lying down with the smoothest talking scum just because its fun [ coarsens the female nature, is injurious to the spirit and sends a wrong message to guys who would otherwise be decent and worthy but now must compete with the scum for nearly universally lower class females] as well as their being the great nurturers of the planet. Why not allow women that dignity again?
Once a premeditated murderer has consciously taken away the chance of someone else to live their full life [ and, by the way, any chance of their victim to their own chance to redeem themselves, if necessary], then society owes convicted capital criminals nothing, absolutely nothing. That people would be so misaligned in their sympathies as to be supporting the murderers over and against the innocent... speaks volumes about the modern pseudo-intelligence obtained through the liberal educational systems. Logic seems a thing of the past and what is current is this nonsensical consensus emoting... in mass. Scary.
I am all for women having freedoms, which they surely enjoy here in this great country. I am not for giving them the right to walk around free after they commit premeditated murder on their very own children. Not hardly. That is just slow societal suicide. We are not blind to the razor being put to Europe's own once profuse bloodlines.
Oh dear. You really walk in double planes don't you? The financial problems in the EU have nothing to do with abortion. The social problems also have nothing to do with abortion, but with immigrants from Africa and the ME and to some lesser extend, asia. There is no problem stemming out of the fact that abortions are legal, except maybe, a higher quality of life for all concerned. I am not a pro-EU person, but if you know nothing on the subject then don't start talking about it because your blabbering nonsense makes the rest of us, who actually to know stuff about the EU and dislike it, look bad by association.
Now.
As to what women do. Condoms are widely popular as the #1 method of contraception. Works 99.9% of the time. So that people can have sex whenever they want with whomever they want if they are consenting adults. For a pro-freedom conservative, you sure do like to make a lot of restrictions on people. Sure, risky sexual behavior is not something to be encouraged but the stupidest possible way to discourage risky sexual behavior is to ban abortions. There is no dumber way.
Now. Since you are so keen on no abortions lets branch out a bit and start digging deeper on more than just a superficial level. SO lets advance our dialogue because otherwise, we're getting nowhere.
1.What if the child was to be born with severe malformations or mental handicaps? Would you agree that if a woman/family doesn't want to raise a handicaped child, they should be allowed to have an abortion? I am pro abortions so I think yes.
2. What if the mothers' life was in danger? The woman goes to the doctor, he says that there are high risks of her dying while giving birth even if they did c-section. Odds are, mother dies. Would you agree to an abortion in that case? Should they be legal? I am pro abortions, so I think yes.
3. What if the woman/family has 3 kids already and they can barely feed them and clothe them as it is. Having another one would end up with the family/mother living in the worst possible neighborhood in the crappiest city in the USA (so Detroit). Would you agree to an abortion then? Again, I say yes, but I am for abortions to be legal.
Now, answer those 3 quizzes for me pls so we can move forward with the dialogue. And since we did decide to delve in a bit more, lets round up what I think of abortion on what my stance is on it.
I am for abortions for children over 18. Under 18, you need parental approval and also a police to be present and note how that happened... maybe put someone in prison for corruption of minors. I also think that abortions should be legal until the 3-4month period. After you enter your 4th month, abortions shouldn't be legal except in extraordinary circumstances because yes, after the 4th month the child is starting to have many traits that we can observe as human. He starts forming a skeleton... he has fingerprints, and soon enough he will start to develop brain functions. So abortions until the 4th month, legal, afterwards, illegal except in special cases.
What special cases?
-well, the case at #1. If you find out your child has severe problems (Down Syndrome), you should be allowed to have an abortion regardless of how far along the pregnancy is.. .maybe not the 1-2 months before but certainly after the 4month period I stated earlier.
-well, the case at #2. If after a medical consult, the doctor says that birth may be fatal for the mother.. then by all means, abortion should be legal past the 4th month I stated earlier.
Case #3 I presented, no. It doesn't fly there.
You will find that this is pretty much how abortion laws are made in many European countries. Now I am no doctor, the 4month term I gave is something I picked up from how it is according to the laws of some European countries ( I think this was in Austria, but can't be sure). Looked at the reasoning... made sense.
So anyway. Answer the #1, #2, and #3 and we can carry on the discussion from there.
