Another obama lie

[VanceMack]

doubt it. It makes no difference to anyone if it was his grandfather or his father. Misspeak? It is quite possible he did call his granfather his Dad. Back in the day people were pretty judgemntal about such things and if Grandfather raises the kid, I can see it. Not Obama worship, just common sense. This is another outrage, but I think this one has been recycled.

I can accept a mis-speak...I really can. Its not very likely, considering how very much he was invested in the "Dreams of My Father", nor have I seen any other account where he EVER called grampa 'father'...but OK. Thats one. It doesnt explain the regular history of lies and actions to fit in. Its what he does.

 

[VanceMack]

Ah yes, the liberal bias claim. It's quite simple to anyone who isn't a partisan lying hack that Obama meant his grandfather in context. But go ahead and scream lie all you want. It wasn't like you or anyone else up in arms over this were going to vote Obama anyway. So enjoy your cry of lie all you want, you and the others are irrelevent.

I have already said...I could cede the 'Father' statement. If it werent for the regular list of lies and misstatements. Did daddy REALLY come to America because JFK by golly sent that beacon call and freedom flights to Africa? No...daddy was already in America. Did mommy and daddy hook up because of that Selma march? No...mommy and daddy hatched that egg 4 years prior. Sorry...the 'facts' are what they are. I get how invested you are in supporting the liar...but its no less sad.

 

[TheNextEra]

each of us has the right to draw his own conclusions from the informationa available to us. We don't have thought control in the US yet.

Oh you're free to your own information. However when fact-checking sites have debunked it and you still try to stick to it, you come off looking like a birther type. Just saying.

 

[mak2]

Like what? What lies does Obama tell? Just get the list out here. I am voting green party anyway but it would be interesting to see a list of outright lies from the president.

I can accept a mis-speak...I really can. Its not very likely, considering how very much he was invested in the "Dreams of My Father", nor have I seen any other account where he EVER called grampa 'father'...but OK. Thats one. It doesnt explain the regular history of lies and actions to fit in. Its what he does.

 

[TheNextEra]

I have already said...I could cede the 'Father' statement. If it werent for the regular list of lies and misstatements. Did daddy REALLY come to America because JFK by golly sent that beacon call and freedom flights to Africa? No...daddy was already in America. Did mommy and daddy hook up because of that Selma march? No...mommy and daddy hatched that egg 4 years prior. Sorry...the 'facts' are what they are. I get how invested you are in supporting the liar...but its no less sad.

Again, I'll trust a known fact-checking site over a partisan internet poster such as yourself. You have ZERO credibility when compared to a fact-checking site. But if you want to look like a birther type, be my guest. It's no skin off my back.

 

[VanceMack]

Like what? What lies does Obama tell? Just get the list out here. I am voting green party anyway but it would be interesting to see a list of outright lies from the president.

You can google "Obama lies" as well as anyone I have cited some specific ones related to the 'Father' comment. Here the factual history. Barrack Sr went to Hawaii in the 50s. While at U o H he met B-Roks mommy and became a baby-daddy in August of 61. Simple enough. Now...The B-Rok mix tape...

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we’re battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we’re not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.” So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama."

Just a whole litany of lies told during a Selma remembrance. Not necessary. Totally unnecessary. yet...he told them anyway. Daddy didnt fly over courtesy of the Kennedy's flights...Daddy came to America during a republican presidents term. Selma didnt have **** to do with his parents, their hook up, his birth...it couldnt...it hadnt happened yet. So...dont tell HIM he doesnt have a right to the Selma legacy. Because...he's not listening...lal la la la la.

 

[VanceMack]

Again, I'll trust a known fact-checking site over a partisan internet poster such as yourself. You have ZERO credibility when compared to a fact-checking site. But if you want to look like a birther type, be my guest. It's no skin off my back.

All I have done is cited the facts. You are the blind partisan that refuses to see anything but blind adoration of your beloved earthly god.

 

[JRog]

Do you have just an absolute and complete inability to respond to the actual FACTS? I mean...I get your earlier tactic..."blame George Bush-he lied too". But heres the sad reality for you...'I' didnt lie about mommy and daddy ****ing behind the rib shack during the Selma march. Thats your boy. 'I' do not habitually make **** up to show how down I am with the homies. Thats your boy. So for YOU to try and make this be about anything and everything BUT the fact your homie is a liar and an opportunist...well...again...that says nothing about me...but speaks volumes about you. About him? Well...it says he is just another lying dishonest politician.

Did I say something about GW Bush? Do you have me confused with someone else?

You're the one saying he's trying to "fit in" and I asked what you meant by that. Then you respond calling him my "homie" and talking about a rib shack? I think you have some racial issues. I don't care whether you think you are making racist remarks or not, but that's the the impression I get from your "factual" arguments.

Speaking of liars and opportunists, have you heard about my friend Mitt Romney?

 

[TheNextEra]

I have already said...I could cede the 'Father' statement. If it werent for the regular list of lies and misstatements. Did daddy REALLY come to America because JFK by golly sent that beacon call and freedom flights to Africa? No...daddy was already in America. Did mommy and daddy hook up because of that Selma march? No...mommy and daddy hatched that egg 4 years prior. Sorry...the 'facts' are what they are. I get how invested you are in supporting the liar...but its no less sad.

Interesting how you say I am invested in supporting Obama since I didn't vote for him this time around. Anyways with your partisan hack comment aside, fact-checking sites disagree with you. Considering THEY have more credibility than YOU, I'll choose them over you. Thank you, but please do have fun foaming at the mouth ranting.

 

[TheNextEra]

All I have done is cited the facts. You are the blind partisan that refuses to see anything but blind adoration of your beloved earthly god.

The FACTS are listed in the snopes link I posted. Yours is just conspiracy nonsense. Have fun foaming at the mouth though.

 

[VanceMack]

The FACTS are listed in the snopes link I posted. Yours is just conspiracy nonsense. Have fun foaming at the mouth though.

There is no conspiracy non-sense. Obamas daddy did NOT come over due to any freedom flights offerred by the Kennedy's due to the exciting changes occuring at Selma. His parents didnt meet because Selma. He is a populist and tellss lies to fit in with his group. That makes him a 'politician' (not unlike Joe Biden saying "I was a football player in College...and I remember when we beat you guys"). See...thats the sad part. You are SO invested in your god being perfect you cant admit he does what many/most politicians do and instead CLING to the lie. Thats...sad. Really really sad. Dont compromise your own character and integrity just because the guy you adore and worship so readily does his own.

 

[VanceMack]

Did I say something about GW Bush? Do you have me confused with someone else?

You're the one saying he's trying to "fit in" and I asked what you meant by that. Then you respond calling him my "homie" and talking about a rib shack? I think you have some racial issues. I don't care whether you think you are making racist remarks or not, but that's the the impression I get from your "factual" arguments.

Speaking of liars and opportunists, have you heard about my friend Mitt Romney?

Absolutely! Two peas in a pod. Check back on this site and you will see that I have ALWAYS said as much. Dont like a Romney position? Wait 15 minutes...it will change. LOTS of reasons to not vote for Romney (which is why I am voting for Johnson). NONE of that changes the facts about Obama.

 

[Bobcat]

The FACTS are listed in the snopes link I posted. Yours is just conspiracy nonsense. Have fun foaming at the mouth though.

you are the one foaming, NE. Obama's fabrications and outright lies have been listed many times. this one just happens to give the details about the lies he told about his "father" serving in WW2
It was a total falsehood, you guys can spin and say he really meant his grandfather all you wish, but his own words contradict your failed attempts to bail his sorry ass out.

 

[JRog]

Absolutely! Two peas in a pod. Check back on this site and you will see that I have ALWAYS said as much. Dont like a Romney position? Wait 15 minutes...it will change. LOTS of reasons to not vote for Romney (which is why I am voting for Johnson). NONE of that changes the facts about Obama.

If you want to hate Obama, hate his policies, not the fact that he intentionally or accidentally called his grandfather "father". I won't vote for Romney because I don't like his policies. I'm not voting for a best friend, I am voting for a person who will adopt policies that are close to my own personal beliefs.

 

[waas]

you are the one foaming, NE. Obama's fabrications and outright lies have been listed many times. this one just happens to give the details about the lies he told about his "father" serving in WW2
It was a total falsehood, you guys can spin and say he really meant his grandfather all you wish, but his own words contradict your failed attempts to bail his sorry ass out.

But hold on, why do you care? His grandfather served in WWII, not his father. It's not like this was somehow malicious.

 

[Bobcat]

But hold on, why do you care? His grandfather served in WWII, not his father. It's not like this was somehow malicious.

right, his grandfather is really his father and his mother is really his grandmother, and they are all "typical white people"

It was an outright fabrication of his history, just like the one about his parents meeting and creating him at Selma. Its all BS, like 98% of what the guy says.

How does anyone continue to support this massive fraud?

 

[VanceMack]

If you want to hate Obama, hate his policies, not the fact that he intentionally or accidentally called his grandfather "father". I won't vote for Romney because I don't like his policies. I'm not voting for a best friend, I am voting for a person who will adopt policies that are close to my own personal beliefs.

I dont hate either of them...but I also dont trust either of them even a little bit. I absolutely hate Obamas policies, but then, I also hate that both houses in congress are so completely inept as well. this topic however is not about his policies but rather his nature...his character. I can accept the simple explanation that it was a misstatement. Unfortunately there are just too many other similar instances that show it is a part of who he presents himself to be.

You have mentioned Romney a few times. There is a reason I am not as aggressive towards Romney as I am towards Obama. Its simply this...I dont think the man has a snowballs chance of winning. I said this a year and a half ago...they could have saved us the cost and angst of an election and just had a coronation...accepted another four years as president by immediate acclamation. Romney is no different than Obama and in fact when it comes to being all over the scale on positions he is far worse.

 

[Bobcat]

If you want to hate Obama, hate his policies, not the fact that he intentionally or accidentally called his grandfather "father". I won't vote for Romney because I don't like his policies. I'm not voting for a best friend, I am voting for a person who will adopt policies that are close to my own personal beliefs.

so you favor massive ever-increasing national debt, 8+% unemployment, trillion dollar deficits every year, $4 gas, no national energy policy, increased numbers on food stamps, increased numbers in poverty, higher taxes, government intrusion into every aspect of our lives-----those are policies that are close to your personal beliefs?

 

[Bobcat]

I dont hate either of them...but I also dont trust either of them even a little bit. I absolutely hate Obamas policies, but then, I also hate that both houses in congress are so completely inept as well. this topic however is not about his policies but rather his nature...his character. I can accept the simple explanation that it was a misstatement. Unfortunately there are just too many other similar instances that show it is a part of who he presents himself to be.

You have mentioned Romney a few times. There is a reason I am not as aggressive towards Romney as I am towards Obama. Its simply this...I dont think the man has a snowballs chance of winning. I said this a year and a half ago...they could have saved us the cost and angst of an election and just had a coronation...accepted another four years as president by immediate acclamation. Romney is no different than Obama and in fact when it comes to being all over the scale on positions he is far worse.

you are wrong Vance, Romney is pro-america, obama is anti-america. thats the difference.

 

[VanceMack]

you are wrong Vance, Romney is pro-america, obama is anti-america. thats the difference.

Sorry dood...Im not a fan of the blue OR the red Kool aid.

 

[Bobcat]

Sorry dood...Im not a fan of the blue OR the red Kool aid.

me either, but the choice of red over blue is pretty clear this year.

 

[JRog]

so you favor massive ever-increasing national debt, 8+% unemployment, trillion dollar deficits every year, $4 gas, no national energy policy, increased numbers on food stamps, increased numbers in poverty, higher taxes, government intrusion into every aspect of our lives-----those are policies that are close to your personal beliefs?

:roll: Government intrusion, huh? Nothing like the Patriot Act, outlawing of gay marriage, and anti abortion legislation to show how uninvolved republican government would be in every aspect of our lives...

 

[Bobcat]

:roll: Government intrusion, huh? Nothing like the Patriot Act, outlawing of gay marriage, and anti abortion legislation to show how uninvolved republican government would be in every aspect of our lives...

the patriot act may have saved YOUR life, gay marriage is legal in several states--it should remain a state issue, abortion is legal and also should remain a state issue.

obamacare has been rammed up our asses even though 65% of americans do not want it. The EPA has virtually made in impossible to harvest US energy. obama wants to raise your taxes, the IRS is going to check to see that you pay your mandatory healthcare premium. those are some real examples of govt intrusion.

 

[tres borrachos]

The FACTS are listed in the snopes link I posted. Yours is just conspiracy nonsense. Have fun foaming at the mouth though.

Snopes didn't prove anything. There is zero evidence in your link or anywhere else that Obama ever referred to his grandfather as his "father" at any time.

Obama misspoke, intentionally or otherwise. That's all there is to it.

 

[tres borrachos]

:roll: Government intrusion, huh? Nothing like the Patriot Act, outlawing of gay marriage, and anti abortion legislation to show how uninvolved republican government would be in every aspect of our lives...

If the Patriot Act is so bad, why didn't Obama overturn it when he had full control of both houses of Congress?