Caribbean cruise terminated after fire
Cigarette suspected to be cause of blaze, which left 1 dead 1, injured 11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11975460/
Annandale Couple Killed By Fire at Longtime Home
By Clarence Williams
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 9, 2006; Page B02
An Annandale couple in their eighties died yesterday after fire swept through the brick home they had lived in for more than 40 years.
A neighbor said she and a passing motorist had tried to break into the home to rescue the couple but were unable to get inside.
Fairfax County fire officials said a lighted cigarette was to blame for the blaze, which broke out late yesterday afternoon in a house in the 6500 block of Renwood Lane.
Firefighters found the wife dead on a family room sofa, the Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department said. The husband was discovered unconscious in the adjoining living room. . . .
Fire investigators said the blaze was caused by the "inappropriate disposal of smoking materials." They said they were looking into how the cigarette sparked the fire.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/08/AR2006030802740.html
aps said:Here's a good website for people to read about deaths that result from cigarette fires.
http://www.tobacco.org/articles/category/fires/ /
Willoughby said:what about all the other things that kill people in fires, cooking, candles etc
aps said:This is the third time in the last month that someone's cigarette killed at least one other person.
I can't find the 3rd story. Regardless, this kind of stuff enrages me! Just another way cigarettes kill human beings.
aps said:Guess what? I honestly don't care what you think of my thoughts on smoking. In fact, I love that you think my thoughts are "ridiculous." If you're a smoker, I feel sorry for you that you let some substance control you. I have no idea what that is like, and I am proud of that. Hopefully if you ever kill someone from smoking (http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=9356), that it's just yourself.
talloulou said:I just saw your post in the Laura Bush thread....figured I'd respond to it down here since you started a whole thread and all....
Smoking is a loser habit that I quit tons of times.:rofl The only time I was successful for any length of time was when I was breastfeeding. When I was pregnant with my son I completely quit smoking but cheated and had a cig right before going to the hospital. My water broke and I just thought whatever I need to smoke before I can give birth!:rofl I'm a total addict but I did manage to quit for the majority of my pregnancies and breastfeeding which was almost a 3 yr period....but of course once in awhile I still cheated.
I'm a total closet smoker....usually 5-6 a day. I don't need you to feel sorry for me. And, I too am glad you have no substance that controls you. That's really great and I mean that honestly.
However....smoking is legal. Hey maybe eventually they'll outlaw it all together since that seems the direction we are going.... Hey maybe if they do and I can't buy them I'll finally quit!
But in the meantime I don't get this hatred towards smokers. I don't smoke around people who aren't smoking. I don't get the commercials where the girl eats cat poo and then they declare that's what a smoker is like. Give me a break! Everyone has bad habits. There are people killing themselves with food for christsakes. Why do you gotta have the holier than thou attitude?
Now if you were sitting on a park bench and I sat next to you and lit a cig that would be incredibly rude on my part and I can totally see going off on smokers like that. Or smokers who litter....It makes me cringe when I see people throwing their butts all over.
But you know what...I'm not that kind of smoker and I bet Laura Bush isn't either:rofl
So for you to say something to me, someone you don't even know, like I hope when you kill someone its yourself.....it's just so mean. I don't get it! Are you like perfect with no faults or what?
Donkey1499 said:anti-smoking Nazis **** me off rightly. I can't stand it. "Oh, but the squirrels have asthma!!!" Bullshit, **** you! Squirrels ain't got no damn asthma, see how fast those little furry ****ers run? Unless they got an inhaler up their ***, squirrels ain't got no asthma!
Sir_Alec said:To Donkey1499: Wow. You need to calm down because you act like an a$$, and most mammals can get asthma you dumba$$. Maybe you can stop acting like stereotypical right-wing liar and get some facts to back your statements, but we all know you won't do that.
To Aps: As a smoker I do say this is kind of silly. Smoking should not be a major issue with people at the moment. There are bigger things to worry about. "THERE IS ****ING WAR FOR ****S SAKE."
Why don't you focus on the most important subjects. Just wait until a Democratic president is elected and then you can attack the cigarette companies.
I dream of a day when less chemicals are put into my addiction. But when that happens pot will be legal and i'll be smoking it instead of tobacco.
Donkey1499 said:Didn't it just **** you off that you can't smoke in a bar anymore? I'm not a smoker, but it pissed me off. That's whole atmosphere of a bar, cigs, beer, and busty babes! YEAH!!! What's wrong with smoking sections in restaurants? They got rid of that too. Damn anti-smoking nazis suck!
talloulou said:I don't go to bars very often but yeah I think its kind of stupid. I mean I think a bar owner should be allowed to decide if its a smoking or nonsmoking bar. Many bars here where I live are going out of business cause smoking is illegal and that hurt their business.
I do think smoking in restaurants is kind of rude....even if there's a smoking section it still can be smelled by nonsmokers but again I think perhaps we should have just let restaurants decide for themselves what they wanted to do.
What I hate is the commercials that as of late have gotten really bad. What I really hate is someone sneering at me while I'm walking my dog 'cause they're so offended that I'm walking around and smoking. It's really crazy in my opinion and I just really don't get it. If I'm walking down the sidewalk smoking and I see kids coming I will actually cross the street so they don't walk through a cloud of smoke.
If people were just taking steps to outlaw smoking that would be one thing...but to just pick at it to the point where smoking is legal but you just can't do it anywhere is sorta unreal. I've heard of jobs firing people for smoking, people having to pay more $$$ for the health insurance. Do employers make fat people pay more $$$$? Its just an unusal attack campaign that really has in many cases gone completely overboard.
talloulou said:I assume you are as completely enraged by drinking as people are killed by drunk drivers and other accidents related to alcohol? For that matter I hope you are outraged by cars as they can kill even without a drunk driver. And anything that can burn.....candles, matches, stove, oven....
There is just so much to be outraged over why quit at being a smoke-nazi!
Now I know smoking is a bad habit but as long as someone isn't standing right next to you forcing you to breath it in I don't see why you gotta be so b-itchy.
Deegan said:Aps, are you a reformed smoker?
talloulou said:I just saw your post in the Laura Bush thread....figured I'd respond to it down here since you started a whole thread and all....
Smoking is a loser habit that I quit tons of times.:rofl The only time I was successful for any length of time was when I was breastfeeding. When I was pregnant with my son I completely quit smoking but cheated and had a cig right before going to the hospital. My water broke and I just thought whatever I need to smoke before I can give birth!:rofl I'm a total addict but I did manage to quit for the majority of my pregnancies and breastfeeding which was almost a 3 yr period....but of course once in awhile I still cheated.
I'm a total closet smoker....usually 5-6 a day. I don't need you to feel sorry for me. And, I too am glad you have no substance that controls you. That's really great and I mean that honestly.
However....smoking is legal. Hey maybe eventually they'll outlaw it all together since that seems the direction we are going.... Hey maybe if they do and I can't buy them I'll finally quit!
But in the meantime I don't get this hatred towards smokers. I don't smoke around people who aren't smoking. I don't get the commercials where the girl eats cat poo and then they declare that's what a smoker is like. Give me a break! Everyone has bad habits. There are people killing themselves with food for christsakes. Why do you gotta have the holier than thou attitude?
Now if you were sitting on a park bench and I sat next to you and lit a cig that would be incredibly rude on my part and I can totally see going off on smokers like that. Or smokers who litter....It makes me cringe when I see people throwing their butts all over.
But you know what...I'm not that kind of smoker and I bet Laura Bush isn't either:rofl
So for you to say something to me, someone you don't even know, like I hope when you kill someone its yourself.....it's just so mean. I don't get it! Are you like perfect with no faults or what?
Donkey1499 said:Didn't it just **** you off that you can't smoke in a bar anymore? I'm not a smoker, but it pissed me off. That's whole atmosphere of a bar, cigs, beer, and busty babes! YEAH!!! What's wrong with smoking sections in restaurants? They got rid of that too. Damn anti-smoking nazis suck!
Sir_Alec said:To Donkey1499: Wow. You need to calm down because you act like an a$$, and most mammals can get asthma you dumba$$. Maybe you can stop acting like stereotypical right-wing liar and get some facts to back your statements, but we all know you won't do that.
To Aps: As a smoker I do say this is kind of silly. Smoking should not be a major issue with people at the moment. There are bigger things to worry about. "THERE IS ****ING WAR FOR ****S SAKE."
Why don't you focus on the most important subjects. Just wait until a Democratic president is elected and then you can attack the cigarette companies.
I dream of a day when less chemicals are put into my addiction. But when that happens pot will be legal and i'll be smoking it instead of tobacco.
aps said:I have never smoked (well, I have, but I didn't inhale). I tried it a couple of times when I was 13.
Donkey1499 said:Didn't it just **** you off that you can't smoke in a bar anymore? I'm not a smoker, but it pissed me off. That's whole atmosphere of a bar, cigs, beer, and busty babes! YEAH!!! What's wrong with smoking sections in restaurants? They got rid of that too. Damn anti-smoking nazis suck!
galenrox said:So? I think menstration is a disgusting habit. Now you may say that we're talking about completely different things, but at the root of it we're not. I have been smoking now for over 12 years, and I am now physically addicted to it. Now, of course, I could take some pills that might alleviate this addiction and allow me to stop, but the same could be said about menstration, I mean, if you're on the pill all month then you don't menstrate. And you say that being around a smoker smoking could be bad for your health, but I have been kicked in the nuts, punched in the face, scratched and bitten all the way through my skin by menstrating women, and I highly doubt you could prove that the effect of being in a bar while someone has a smoke has EVER ****ed you up as much as menstrating women have ****ed me up.
So, then how is it different? Essentially it comes down to smoking is bad for the user, while menstrating is not, but does that merit legislation? Of course it doesn't, because whether or not I am living a healthy life is none of the government's *******ed business!
aps said:Yes, I am enraged by drunken driving. I think the penalities for such should be much worse than they are now. You drink and you get behind the wheel of a car--you should be charged with intentional manslaughter.
I'm bitchy because I think smoking is a disgusting habit.
Deegan said:Just wondering, because I know that reformed smokers are the most adamant about anything smoke related, they just seem intolerant. I can see you obviously hate smoking, but not everyone who smokes is irresponsible, or has caused anyone else pain or death from their habit. Just be careful when you discuss this issue, as some are sensitive to it, as I am. I don't want to be told I am awful, or bad, because I enjoy a cigar, or even a cigarette.
Your tone just sounds off here, just an observation.
aps said:Yes, I am enraged by drunken driving. I think the penalities for such should be much worse than they are now. You drink and you get behind the wheel of a car--you should be charged with intentional manslaughter.
I'm bitchy because I think smoking is a disgusting habit.
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