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Another Good Guy with a Gun...

calamity said:
At leas he cares about lives. The zealots only care about Precious.
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another stupid lie. Gun banners only care about the lives of criminals. We who support gun rights care far more about the rights and lives of honest people. You all want to disarm honest people and give criminals a safe working environment.
 
CaughtInThe said:
i like all the stories of the women who strangle their husbands to death.
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There was a case at my very university where a student was strangled to death by her boyfriend. It made the news.

CaughtInThe said:
you don't believe that woman was gunned down by her husband?
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Its just some picture you post. You don't talk about who she was or exactly what happened, or any links to such information.
 
TurtleDude said:
another stupid lie. Gun banners only care about the lives of criminals. We who support gun rights care far more about the rights and lives of honest people. You all want to disarm honest people and give criminals a safe working environment.
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Well, at least you told us your post would be “another stupid lie.”
 
DebateChallenge said:
There was a case at my very university where a student was strangled to death by her boyfriend. It made the news.


Its just some picture you post. You don't talk about who she was or exactly what happened, or any links to such information.
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Lol...you didn’t even post a picture.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Its just some picture you post. You don't talk about who she was or exactly what happened, or any links to such information.
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every picture i've posted is of someone who was not only gunned down but was gunned down within the last month. most more recent than that. so, not to make you look bad or anything...


Alabama
Megan Montgomery shot multiple times; Mountain Brook police charge ex-cop with capital murder

"Montgomery was face down on the pavement and had been shot multiple times, including once in the back and possibly twice in the head. “There was blood in the area and there was other physical evidence that led us to believe she was shot in the parking lot,’’ Cook said."

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CaughtInThe said:
every picture i've posted is of someone who was not only gunned down but was gunned down within the last month. most more recent than that. so, not to make you look bad or anything...


Alabama
Megan Montgomery shot multiple times; Mountain Brook police charge ex-cop with capital murder

"Montgomery was face down on the pavement and had been shot multiple times, including once in the back and possibly twice in the head. “There was blood in the area and there was other physical evidence that led us to believe she was shot in the parking lot,’’ Cook said."

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Anybody can post random pictures and claim they're of people being shot. Anyway, I did a google search on the information provided and it turns out she was the victim of her husband who she was currently separated from. I don't blame guns or gun rights for this tragedy I blame her psychopath husband. He wouldn't've needed a gun to do her in, he could've just as easily stabbed or strangled her to death.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Anybody can post random pictures and claim they're of people being shot. Anyway, I did a google search on the information provided and it turns out she was the victim of her husband who she was currently separated from. I don't blame guns or gun rights for this tragedy I blame her psychopath husband. He wouldn't've needed a gun to do her in, he could've just as easily stabbed or strangled her to death.
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So, you now understand that all the pics I posted are of real people that have been gunned down recently, correct?

Btw, not a single one I've posted are from Chicago or Baltimore.

Now, you have been asking for solutions. What's the solution for this woman who was shot in the back in a parking lot? Body armor 24/7?
 
CaughtInThe said:
So, you now understand that all the pics I posted are of real people that have been gunned down recently, correct?

Btw, not a single one I've posted are from Chicago or Baltimore.

Now, you have been asking for solutions. What's the solution for this woman who was shot in the back in a parking lot? Body armor 24/7?
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Have you linked to the article about her death?

Need more information before determining possible prevention tactics.
 
Fledermaus said:
Have you linked to the article about her death?

Need more information before determining possible prevention tactics.
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Google is your friend. Well, at least it should be.
 
CaughtInThe said:
So, you now understand that all the pics I posted are of real people that have been gunned down recently, correct?
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Just because that one pic you posted turned out to be real doesn't mean every pic you post is real. For people to believe its real, at least people who aren't gullible, you would have to provide references to where you got the pics.

CaughtInThe said:
Btw, not a single one I've posted are from Chicago or Baltimore.
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All that means is that you cherry pick.

CaughtInThe said:
Now, you have been asking for solutions. What's the solution for this woman who was shot in the back in a parking lot? Body armor 24/7?
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My solution is that whoever would shoot her in the back, such a person should not be running loose in the first place.
 
TurtleDude said:
that's dishonest and you know it.
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Yes, your post was extremely dishonest.

Same old claptrap bs about gun control advocates only caring about the lives of criminals. A blatant lie.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Just because that one pic you posted turned out to be real doesn't mean every pic you post is real. For people to believe its real, at least people who aren't gullible, you would have to provide references to where you got the pics.


All that means is that you cherry pick.


My solution is that whoever would shoot her in the back, such a person should not be running loose in the first place.
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oh, they're all real murder victims (i find it fascinating that you guys don't believe it).

and i show murders all over the country because a ton of people like yourself always harp on Chicago and Baltimore and i'm showing that it happens in Anytown, USA.

so, your solution is to lock up people who would shoot others in the back? how are you going to do that? give us the actual process.



anyway, do you think this murder is real now?


Crestview man charged in the murder of his parents and two family dogs

Ex-Marine shot and killed his parents and two dogs - NBC2 News

an ex-Marine murdered his parents. this is the guy that someone in this thread said was raised bad by his parents.

do you guys, honest to God, not know this stuff is happening all over the country?


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CaughtInThe said:
oh, they're all real murder victims (i find it fascinating that you guys don't believe it).

and i show murders all over the country because a ton of people like yourself always harp on Chicago and Baltimore and i'm showing that it happens in Anytown, USA.

so, your solution is to lock up people who would shoot others in the back? how are you going to do that? give us the actual process.



anyway, do you think this murder is real now?


Crestview man charged in the murder of his parents and two family dogs

Ex-Marine shot and killed his parents and two dogs - NBC2 News

an ex-Marine murdered his parents. this is the guy that someone in this thread said was raised bad by his parents.

do you guys, honest to God, not know this stuff is happening all over the country?


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Yes, you are bursting their "gangbanger" bubble. And, of course, they do not like it.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Just because that one pic you posted turned out to be real doesn't mean every pic you post is real. For people to believe its real, at least people who aren't gullible, you would have to provide references to where you got the pics.


All that means is that you cherry pick.


My solution is that whoever would shoot her in the back, such a person should not be running loose in the first place.
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Prove your "this very university" strangulation story is real. :roll:

Is this "very university" even in the US?
 
Nickyjo said:
m

++ Gun is easy to hide, easy to dispose of, doesn’t get blood spattered on it or dented as a bat or a car. It’s convenient, why his attacker didn’t use a bow and arrow. You seems to be twisting yourself out of shape to argue that lots of guns are no factor at all. I am simply maintaining — as most police would— that guns are one of many factors that lead to a large homicide rate in the US as compared to other, similar countries. .
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Yes.. I know what you are arguing..and the facts DO NOT support your premise. So.. you say that guns lead to the "large homicide in the US".

But the facts simply don't fit your premise.

A couple of new studies reveal the gun-control hypesters’ worst nightmare…more people are buying firearms, while firearm-related homicides and suicides are steadily diminishing. What crackpots came up with these conclusions? One set of statistics was compiled by the U.S. Department of Justice. The other was reported by the Pew Research Center.
According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to 11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased even more, a whopping 69 percent. The majority of those declines in both categories occurred during the first 10 years of that time frame. Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011. Non-fatal firearm violence declined from 1993 through 2004, then fluctuated in the mid-to-late 2000s.
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Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet

gun sales went up.. more guns.. and yet crime plummets. Sorry but the facts simply don't add to guns being a major factor or even a factor in our homicide rate. IF it was the major factor..then more guns.. should equal more murder.. but it didn't.
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By the way... the person that seems to feel that firearms are some type of deity... well is you. You seem to ascribe powers to firearms that they simply don't have.

I don't "worship an iron idol". I use firearms just like I use any of my other tools. From knives to chainsaws, to tractors. Its just a tool. A very valuable tool.. but a tool nonetheless.. dependent on the ACTIONS OF IT OWNER...
 
jaeger19 said:
Yes.. I know what you are arguing..and the facts DO NOT support your premise. So.. you say that guns lead to the "large homicide in the US".

But the facts simply don't fit your premise.



Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet

gun sales went up.. more guns.. and yet crime plummets. Sorry but the facts simply don't add to guns being a major factor or even a factor in our homicide rate. IF it was the major factor..then more guns.. should equal more murder.. but it didn't.
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By the way... the person that seems to feel that firearms are some type of deity... well is you. You seem to ascribe powers to firearms that they simply don't have.

I don't "worship an iron idol". I use firearms just like I use any of my other tools. From knives to chainsaws, to tractors. Its just a tool. A very valuable tool.. but a tool nonetheless.. dependent on the ACTIONS OF IT OWNER...
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i'm sure that comforting to this 23yo woman who was gunned down in a domestic violence event in Texas...


Homicide #30 | AustinTexas.gov - The Official Website of the City of Austin
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