Jryan
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If I remember right, those that were in college at the time were exempt from the draft, among other reasons. Why is he any worse than the millions of other young men that didn't get drafted?
again, pandering....I predict there will be no changes of abortion law or birth control for the next 12 years....
likewise gun laws....
Romney will likely do what is needed to fix our economy and let the little stuff slide...
Because that policy was bull**** :2razz:. All men are created equal, whatever happened to that when they signed that addendum into law?
This much I am pretty sure of, Romney is NOT government as usual, he will do a much better job of selecting staff than has been done in a long time. Also, he isn't beholden to the GOP power structure, which would just as soon have a more pliable person in the WH. and he is perfectlly willing to fire non-productive employees.That scenerio sounds like manna from heaven to me.
All men are created equal, indeed. The policy was self serving for the USG. The USG needed college educated people, so sending them off to war was counter productive. That's not their fault, blame the govt for serving it's own ends.
edit: Another example is my Grandfather. He was actually denied enlistment in WWII because he was a ship yard worker and the USG needed him more there than in the war.
oh, and by the way....the administrations leading up to and during the majority of Vietnam were Democrat.
Of course, the college educated crooks are usually better at such things than the high school level crooks...:lol:
The only thing better than prison for teaching people how to be crooks is college!
This much I am pretty sure of, Romney is NOT government as usual, he will do a much better job of selecting staff than has been done in a long time. Also, he isn't beholden to the GOP power structure, which would just as soon have a more pliable person in the WH. and he is perfectlly willing to fire non-productive employees.
and there are real girls at the colleges, in prison, even the prettiest man is still a man...
Well, when life gives you lemons...
This much I am pretty sure of, Romney is NOT government as usual, he will do a much better job of selecting staff than has been done in a long time. Also, he isn't beholden to the GOP power structure, which would just as soon have a more pliable person in the WH. and he is perfectlly willing to fire non-productive employees.
Well, when life gives you lemons...
use them as plugs?
I am pretty sure that wall street is full of crooks, and am very disappointed that Obama didn't prosecute more of them.
congress has a few as well, but Obama did push thru a bill about trading on inside information by members of congress...
Wait, Bill, is this sarcasm or are you actually serious?
I have not read this thread and briefly read this "story".
Several comments ...
First although I would never vote for Romney ... I like Ann Romney's sense of humor and demeanor and have nothing personal against her.
On the strategist ... well my thoughts are this ... she was right and wrong. It was not about "stay at home moms" or that being a stay at home mom is not grueling work.
I think strategist was trying to say ... that each and every day Ann had a complete and luxurious choice to do whatever she pleased. I am sure if Ann woke up with the flu she could have a driver take her kids to preschool and the chef prepare the meals until she recovered.
Whenever Ann needed to refresh she could fly on a private jet to a spa with her friends for some R&R or hire a tutor if her child was struggling with a project. Many professional mothers go to work sick and struggle to buy the science project supplies and burn the mid night oil to help a kid with his project while trying to prepare an evening meal.
I am sure Snn was very hands on and spent much time with her children than most uber wealthy women and is a loving mother. However the majority of women cannot hope of paying college tuition , get a full nights sleep (even when they are sick) and struggle to make ends meet even when working 40+ hours weeks.
Even with 5 children each and everyday Ann had choices not only to be "stay at home" but how much she wanted to do ... oh my gosh if once per month i could have gotten a full nights sleep and had a chef prepare dinner and simply snuggled in to read stories with my kids I would have felt spolied.
That was the point the strategist was making.
Obama is simply trying to make a point there is no war against choice for mothers or that stay at home mothers do not work and trying to diffuse an issue that does not even exist or does he want to be negative to Ann Romney. I imagine he feels the same I do about her ...respectful and the same thoughts I am writing.
Of course on days Ann felt like preparing her own food from an unlimited budget in multi million dollar kitchens she probably did ... other days she might have enjoyed discretionary time to herself while the child care managed those details and came home to read a story and dote on her sons.
Ann seems like a cool person who would not flaunt her wealth or ignore her children ... yet she had all the surrounding hundreds of millions to have whatever support she needed to have those special moments completely stress free of the challenges 99.9% of us mothers face.
That is cool for Ann and lucky her ... yet I do not feel she is qualified to know the 24/7 challenges of either typical middle class income stay at home moms or mothers who are breadwinners and also devoted to family. I do believe she seems compassionate and is probably thinking to herself " I have no clue how those women do it!"
Ann seems to be a lovely lady ... yet she has no reality of even the challenges my upper middle class neighbor faces who is morman, husband is a surgeon and has 5 boys let alone the 99.9 % of mothers who are stay at home or work outside the home.
That said ... Ann seems absolutely lovely and very unassuming and kind for a woman of her vast fortune.
well, I said that I would never vote for McCain, but when the time came, I did. As an AZ resident, I was well aware of his shortcomings.I have not read this thread and briefly read this "story".
Several comments ...
First although I would never vote for Romney ... I like Ann Romney's sense of humor and demeanor and have nothing personal against her. She is beautiful and has a kind energy about her.
On the strategist ... well my thoughts are this ... she was right and wrong. It was not about "stay at home moms" or that being a stay at home mom is not grueling work.
I think strategist was trying to say ... that each and every day Ann had a complete and luxurious choice to do whatever she pleased. I am sure if Ann woke up with the flu she could have a driver take her kids to preschool and the chef prepare the meals until she recovered.
Whenever Ann needed to refresh she could fly on a private jet to a spa with her friends for some R&R or hire a tutor if her child was struggling with a project. Many professional mothers go to work sick and struggle to buy the science project supplies and burn the mid night oil to help a kid with his project while trying to prepare an evening meal.
I am sure Ann was very hands on and spent much time with her children than most uber wealthy women and is a loving mother. However the majority of women cannot hope of paying college tuition , get a full nights sleep (even when they are sick) and struggle to make ends meet even when working 40+ hours weeks.
Even with 5 children each and everyday Ann had choices not only to be "stay at home" but how much she wanted to do ... oh my gosh if once per month i could have gotten a full nights sleep and had a chef prepare dinner and simply snuggled in to read stories with my kids I would have felt spolied.
That was the point the strategist was making.
Obama is simply trying to make a point there is no war against choice for mothers or that stay at home mothers do not work and trying to diffuse an issue that does not even exist nor does he want to be negative or disrespectful to Ann Romney. I imagine he feels the same I do about her ... respectful and the same obvious thoughts I am writing.
Of course on days Ann felt like preparing her own food from an unlimited budget in multi million dollar kitchens she probably did ... other days she might have enjoyed discretionary time to herself while the child care managed those details and came home to read a story and dote on her sons.
Ann seems like a cool person who would not flaunt her wealth or ignore her children ... yet she had all the surrounding hundreds of millions to have whatever support she needed to have those special moments completely stress free of the challenges 99.9% of us mothers face.
That is cool for Ann and lucky her ... yet I do not feel she is qualified to know the 24/7 challenges of either typical middle class income stay at home moms or mothers who are breadwinners and also devoted to family. I do believe she seems compassionate and is probably thinking to herself " I have no clue how those women do it!"
Ann seems to be a lovely lady ... yet she has no reality of even the challenges my upper middle class neighbor faces who is morman, husband is a surgeon and has 5 boys let alone the 99.9 % of mothers who are stay at home or work outside the home.
That said ... Ann seems absolutely lovely and very unassuming and kind for a woman of her vast fortune.
I have not read this thread and briefly read this "story".
Several comments ...
First although I would never vote for Romney ... I like Ann Romney's sense of humor and demeanor and have nothing personal against her. She is beautiful and has a kind energy about her.
On the strategist ... well my thoughts are this ... she was right and wrong. It was not about "stay at home moms" or that being a stay at home mom is not grueling work.
I think strategist was trying to say ... that each and every day Ann had a complete and luxurious choice to do whatever she pleased. I am sure if Ann woke up with the flu she could have a driver take her kids to preschool and the chef prepare the meals until she recovered.
Whenever Ann needed to refresh she could fly on a private jet to a spa with her friends for some R&R or hire a tutor if her child was struggling with a project. Many professional mothers go to work sick and struggle to buy the science project supplies and burn the mid night oil to help a kid with his project while trying to prepare an evening meal.
I am sure Ann was very hands on and spent much time with her children than most uber wealthy women and is a loving mother. However the majority of women cannot hope of paying college tuition , get a full nights sleep (even when they are sick) and struggle to make ends meet even when working 40+ hours weeks.
Even with 5 children each and everyday Ann had choices not only to be "stay at home" but how much she wanted to do ... oh my gosh if once per month i could have gotten a full nights sleep and had a chef prepare dinner and simply snuggled in to read stories with my kids I would have felt spolied.
That was the point the strategist was making.
Obama is simply trying to make a point there is no war against choice for mothers or that stay at home mothers do not work and trying to diffuse an issue that does not even exist or does he want to be negative to Ann Romney. I imagine he feels the same I do about her ...respectful and the same thoughts I am writing.
Of course on days Ann felt like preparing her own food from an unlimited budget in multi million dollar kitchens she probably did ... other days she might have enjoyed discretionary time to herself while the child care managed those details and came home to read a story and dote on her sons.
Ann seems like a cool person who would not flaunt her wealth or ignore her children ... yet she had all the surrounding hundreds of millions to have whatever support she needed to have those special moments completely stress free of the challenges 99.9% of us mothers face.
That is cool for Ann and lucky her ... yet I do not feel she is qualified to know the 24/7 challenges of either typical middle class income stay at home moms or mothers who are breadwinners and also devoted to family. I do believe she seems compassionate and is probably thinking to herself " I have no clue how those women do it!"
Ann seems to be a lovely lady ... yet she has no reality of even the challenges my upper middle class neighbor faces who is morman, husband is a surgeon and has 5 boys let alone the 99.9 % of mothers who are stay at home or work outside the home.
That said ... Ann seems absolutely lovely and very unassuming and kind for a woman of her vast fortune.
I have not read this thread and briefly read this "story".
Several comments ...
First although I would never vote for Romney ... I like Ann Romney's sense of humor and demeanor and have nothing personal against her. She is beautiful and has a kind energy about her.
On the strategist ... well my thoughts are this ... she was right and wrong. It was not about "stay at home moms" or that being a stay at home mom is not grueling work.
I think strategist was trying to say ... that each and every day Ann had a complete and luxurious choice to do whatever she pleased. I am sure if Ann woke up with the flu she could have a driver take her kids to preschool and the chef prepare the meals until she recovered.
Whenever Ann needed to refresh she could fly on a private jet to a spa with her friends for some R&R or hire a tutor if her child was struggling with a project. Many professional mothers go to work sick and struggle to buy the science project supplies and burn the mid night oil to help a kid with his project while trying to prepare an evening meal.
I am sure Ann was very hands on and spent much more time with her children than most uber wealthy women and is a loving mother. However the majority of women cannot hope of paying college tuition , get a full nights sleep (even when they are sick) and struggle to make ends meet even when working 40+ hours weeks.
Even with 5 children each and everyday Ann had choices not only to be "stay at home" but how much she wanted to do ... oh my gosh if once per month i could have gotten a full nights sleep and had a chef prepare dinner and simply snuggled in to read stories with my kids I would have felt spolied.
That was the point the strategist was making.
Obama is simply trying to make a point there is no war against choice for mothers or that stay at home mothers do not work and trying to diffuse an issue that does not even exist nor does he want to be negative or disrespectful to Ann Romney. I imagine he feels the same I do about her ... respectful and the same obvious thoughts I am writing.
Of course on days Ann felt like preparing her own food from an unlimited budget in multi million dollar kitchens she probably did ... other days she might have enjoyed discretionary time to herself while the child care managed those details and came home to read a story and dote on her sons.
Ann seems like a cool person who would not flaunt her wealth or ignore her children ... yet she had all the surrounding hundreds of millions to have whatever support she needed to have those special moments completely stress free of the challenges 99.9% of us mothers face.
That is cool for Ann and lucky her ... yet I do not feel she is qualified to know the 24/7 challenges of either typical middle class income stay at home moms or mothers who are breadwinners and also devoted to family. I do believe she seems compassionate and is probably thinking to herself " I have no clue how those women do it!"
Ann seems to be a lovely lady ... yet she has no reality of even the challenges my upper middle class neighbor faces who is morman, husband is a surgeon and has 5 boys let alone the 99.9 % of mothers who are stay at home or work outside the home.
That said ... Ann seems absolutely lovely and very unassuming and kind for a woman of her vast fortune.
All men are created equal, indeed. The policy was self serving for the USG. The USG needed college educated people, so sending them off to war was counter productive. That's not their fault, blame the govt for serving it's own ends.
edit: Another example is my Grandfather. He was actually denied enlistment in WWII because he was a ship yard worker and the USG needed him more there than in the war.
oh, and by the way....the administrations leading up to and during the majority of Vietnam were Democrat.
Interesting, I still think that the military should've considered him, IE have him on their payroll. I just don't think people should be exempt from the draft system.
Oh, and by the way... the administration from 70 years ago does not represent anything that our current political party does.
Well, first, we no longer have a draft, Second, what's the point of having soldiers and sailors if no one is making them stuff to use?
So, JFK and Lyndon are not people you identify with? The Dems have split with their ideologies?
i do identify with them but that doesn't mean that they represent my beliefs completely.
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