Conservative commentator Ann Coulter vowed to proceed with a scheduled speaking event at the University of California, Berkeley, despite the school's decision to call it off.
Citing security concerns, the school's vice chancellors said they intended to "reschedule her appearance for a later date."
In a letter to Berkeley College Republicans, who organized the event, Vice Chancellors Scott Biddy and Stephen Sutton said campus police were unable to find a "suitable venue" for the April 27 event.
"Unfortunately, UCPD determined that, given currently active security threats, it is not possible to assure that the event could be held successfully -- or that the safety of Ms. Coulter, the event sponsors, audience, and bystanders could be adequately protected -- at any of the campus venues available on April 27th," the letter said.
Ann Coulter vows to speak at UC Berkeley - CNN.com
I’ll preface everything by stating that I hate Ann Coulter’s methodology. I view her as the instigator type, that is those who say absurd and outrageous things specifically to elicit an emotional reaction in both supporters and distractors because by doing so, it creates attention, coverage, and sells books. So on some level, I take her as an actor, playing this part in order to make money. Not that there is really anything wrong with making money, but it’s more to do that her style isn’t there to promote any sort of discussion, but rather reaction; a reaction specifically tailored to sell. It’s part and parcel to America’s “drama first” consumption trends these day.
That being said, she should go and seek to make her speech regardless of Berkley because it’s important that we keep free speech open and that we engage in it. Now I do think that the University is between a rock and a hard place. Given the antics as of late, particularly by the Antifa assholes. That organization was, long ago, some anti-fascist organization, but is now the fascists themselves. Terrorists even, on some level, using violence and fear to shut down the free exercise of rights. And so the University now has to look at the safety of their campus and consider what these guys will do. I don’t think the University itself is actively trying to undercut free speech, but that they know that there is going to be violent reaction and they need to time to secure the police force and venue necessary to best protect against it.
But it feels a bit too much like giving into terrorist demands, that by not letting Coulter on campus, it legitimizes their use of violence. This is all wrong. The rights and liberties of the individual, of all individuals, is important and must be upheld. The right to speech and the right to protest alike. But we must abide by the rights of others, and the use of violence to oppose the free exercise of rights cannot be tolerated. But what’s the University to do?
We could just carte blanche increase police protection for these events for the time being. That would cost money, but hopefully we would be driving the system to more reasonable ends in the interim. We could increase policing as well, meaning that we pursue aggressive policing/arresting strategies against groups known to cause violence. Typically for these things the police will stand back somewhat, try to keep the peace, and try to stay out of it unless necessary. This isn’t a bad strategy when rational heads prevail, but as of late rational heads do not seem to be prevailing.
Fundamentally, what is even the cause of this? I think it’s true that we see this sort of violence acted out by “leftist” sides more so than “rightist”, but what happened? Even Berkley back in the day was a champion for Free Speech, and they meant it as such, as an environment where all sides could discuss their ideals and arguments. But it has since moved away, and rather quickly in very recent times. Since the 90’s we have been falling, it seems, into more and more partisan roles. When Reagan and Clinton were in charge, cooperation between the R’s and the D’s wasn’t unheard of. In fact, bipartisanship was often championed (under Clinton it was likely starting to close down, though). But since we have seen, I think, a dramatic shift in the politics and a particular rise in hyper-partisan behavior. To the point now where “bipartisanship” is neigh a dirty word. Is the violence we see now emerging a symptom of that?
Surely Trump is not to blame, per say, but he is certainly a divisive figure, more so than any we’ve had previously. But perhaps that too is a symptom and not the root cause. In fact, I’m inclined to think it is.
Why, then, the sudden shift from open discussion and bipartisan compromise to this inflexible, aggressive, and partisan mindset? How can we fix it?
Ann Coulter vows to speak at UC Berkeley - CNN.com
Why, then, the sudden shift from open discussion and bipartisan compromise to this inflexible, aggressive, and partisan mindset? How can we fix it?
What is the usual response to people that intentionally attempt to violate individuals Constitutionally protected rights?
Sounds like maybe there needs to be a better effort at maintaining safety on campus and a holding people accountable that would intentionally violate someones rights."You can not speak, because we can not guaranty that we can maintain SAFETY!"
She was invited to speak.rabble rouser
no different than the KKK wanting to march in a predominately black community
the purpose is to incite
coulter is able to speak, but not at a locale that has opted not to provide her with a podium to do so
she is Constitutionally welcome to rent/borrow a facility from a willing berkeley locale owner and speak there
and she will also enjoy the opinions of those who disagree with her unless she also arranges to prevent them from occupying her speaking facility
objecting to her being unable to speak on that disapproving campus is little different from objecting to being unable to post hate speech on this forum; a very stupid position to hold and share
Sounds like maybe there needs to be a better effort at maintaining safety on campus and a holding people accountable that would intentionally violate someones rights.
She was invited to speak.
rabble rouser
no different than the KKK wanting to march in a predominately black community
the purpose is to incite
coulter is able to speak, but not at a locale that has opted not to provide her with a podium to do so
she is Constitutionally welcome to rent/borrow a facility from a willing berkeley locale owner and speak there
and she will also enjoy the opinions of those who disagree with her unless she also arranges to prevent them from occupying her speaking facility
objecting to her being unable to speak on that disapproving campus is little different from objecting to being unable to post hate speech on this forum; a very stupid position to hold and share
DP is a social club which is owned by an individual, universities are completely different, or at least they were before the great decline.
Coulter has every right to speak and the violent actions of those protesting are deplorable, however if the Berkeley community and administration do now want Coulter or any speaker then she should not speak at Berkeley. She has every right to speak but people have right tot protest it and no where in the constitution doe sit say the government must provide a platform for people to speak.
rabble rouser
no different than the KKK wanting to march in a predominately black community
the purpose is to incite
coulter is able to speak, but not at a locale that has opted not to provide her with a podium to do so
she is Constitutionally welcome to rent/borrow a facility from a willing berkeley locale owner and speak there
and she will also enjoy the opinions of those who disagree with her unless she also arranges to prevent them from occupying her speaking facility
objecting to her being unable to speak on that disapproving campus is little different from objecting to being unable to post hate speech on this forum; a very stupid position to hold and share
What is the usual response to people that intentionally attempt to violate individuals Constitutionally protected rights?
then you presume that the authorities responsible for managing the berkeley campus are without the authority to deny someone the opportunity to present a speech on that campus
i don't believe that even you would subscribe to such bull****
Stop doing what Berkeley is doing and letting the fascists win.
Start taking into custody anyone wearing a mask at a rally.
Start actively and aggressively investigating the people behind Antifas and putting them in jail for inciting violence.
Get Dem. leaders to start speaking out against this kind of thing, instead of sitting in silence.
Ann Coulter vows to speak at UC Berkeley - CNN.com
I’ll preface everything by stating that I hate Ann Coulter’s methodology. I view her as the instigator type, that is those who say absurd and outrageous things specifically to elicit an emotional reaction in both supporters and distractors because by doing so, it creates attention, coverage, and sells books. So on some level, I take her as an actor, playing this part in order to make money. Not that there is really anything wrong with making money, but it’s more to do that her style isn’t there to promote any sort of discussion, but rather reaction; a reaction specifically tailored to sell. It’s part and parcel to America’s “drama first” consumption trends these day.
That being said, she should go and seek to make her speech regardless of Berkley because it’s important that we keep free speech open and that we engage in it. Now I do think that the University is between a rock and a hard place. Given the antics as of late, particularly by the Antifa assholes. That organization was, long ago, some anti-fascist organization, but is now the fascists themselves. Terrorists even, on some level, using violence and fear to shut down the free exercise of rights. And so the University now has to look at the safety of their campus and consider what these guys will do. I don’t think the University itself is actively trying to undercut free speech, but that they know that there is going to be violent reaction and they need to time to secure the police force and venue necessary to best protect against it.
But it feels a bit too much like giving into terrorist demands, that by not letting Coulter on campus, it legitimizes their use of violence. This is all wrong. The rights and liberties of the individual, of all individuals, is important and must be upheld. The right to speech and the right to protest alike. But we must abide by the rights of others, and the use of violence to oppose the free exercise of rights cannot be tolerated. But what’s the University to do?
We could just carte blanche increase police protection for these events for the time being. That would cost money, but hopefully we would be driving the system to more reasonable ends in the interim. We could increase policing as well, meaning that we pursue aggressive policing/arresting strategies against groups known to cause violence. Typically for these things the police will stand back somewhat, try to keep the peace, and try to stay out of it unless necessary. This isn’t a bad strategy when rational heads prevail, but as of late rational heads do not seem to be prevailing.
Fundamentally, what is even the cause of this? I think it’s true that we see this sort of violence acted out by “leftist” sides more so than “rightist”, but what happened? Even Berkley back in the day was a champion for Free Speech, and they meant it as such, as an environment where all sides could discuss their ideals and arguments. But it has since moved away, and rather quickly in very recent times. Since the 90’s we have been falling, it seems, into more and more partisan roles. When Reagan and Clinton were in charge, cooperation between the R’s and the D’s wasn’t unheard of. In fact, bipartisanship was often championed (under Clinton it was likely starting to close down, though). But since we have seen, I think, a dramatic shift in the politics and a particular rise in hyper-partisan behavior. To the point now where “bipartisanship” is neigh a dirty word. Is the violence we see now emerging a symptom of that?
Surely Trump is not to blame, per say, but he is certainly a divisive figure, more so than any we’ve had previously. But perhaps that too is a symptom and not the root cause. In fact, I’m inclined to think it is.
Why, then, the sudden shift from open discussion and bipartisan compromise to this inflexible, aggressive, and partisan mindset? How can we fix it?
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