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Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

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So much for Obama's foreign policy of supporting the Arab Spring.

New violence sweeps countries across Islamic world | Nation / World News - The News Tribune


That's a lot of people involved in violence in the name of a peaceful religion. But at least they said their prayers first.


So will this world wide spreading violence help Obama rethink his foreign policy strategy? Or is it too late?
 

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This is just a bunch of terrorists and other Islamofascists just using what they can as an excuse to protest and cause violence. This has nothing to do with Obama and who ever made the video is not at fault.
 
jamesrage said:
This is just a bunch of terrorists and other Islamofascists just using what they can as an excuse to protest and cause violence. This has nothing to do with Obama and who ever made the video is not at fault.
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A bunch is quite an understatement, don't you think?

So if the US had not interfered in Libya and Egypt do you think this would have happened?
 
...and another member joins The Logical Party. Welcome aboard.


jamesrage said:
This is just a bunch of terrorists and other Islamofascists just using what they can as an excuse to protest and cause violence. This has nothing to do with Obama and who ever made the video is not at fault.
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Maybe if both sides stop fostering this notion that the west and Islam are at war with each other (and both sides do it a lot), then this kind of stuff wouldn't happen.
 
Paschendale said:
Maybe if both sides stop fostering this notion that the west and Islam are at war with each other (and both sides do it a lot), then this kind of stuff wouldn't happen.
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its hard to blame the west for a bunch of idiots who go bonkers over a silly movie. Last I checked Christians didn't go on rampages when someone put a crucifix in a bottle of piss or when rock singers like Ian Anderson bashed Christian sects
 
jamesrage said:
This is just a bunch of terrorists and other Islamofascists just using what they can as an excuse to protest and cause violence. This has nothing to do with Obama and who ever made the video is not at fault.
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I agree, nothing but terrorists. But to say this has nothing to do with Obama? How the hell does that track? How he responds has everything to do with every one of these situations.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060911916 said:
A bunch is quite an understatement, don't you think?

So if the US had not interfered in Libya and Egypt do you think this would have happened?
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Absolutely not. Iron fisted military dictators did not tolerate unapproved protests. They have been replaced with iron fisted theocrats of equal force - which they will increasingly direct at the USA as long as it clear they can get away with it.
 
MaggieD said:
I agree, nothing but terrorists. But to say this has nothing to do with Obama? How the hell does that track? How he responds has everything to do with every one of these situations.
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Yes, it absolutely does. They smell weakness, because our response reeks of it.
 
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Harshaw said:
Yes, it absolutely does. They smell weakness, because our response reeks of it.
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Worse, they are being rewarded by getting what they want out of it. The want information, free speech and thinking about who and what they are - and what religion they sell - totally silenced. They exist in power because of ignorance of the people.

That want everyone afraid to criticize the "religion" they control people with - and by killing Americans and attacking our Embassies they got it - even got President Obama and Secretary of State Hilliary Clinton apologizing and condemning a movie because it ridiculed the religion those religious "leaders" control people with.

They are succeeding. Virtually no one on this forum would hesitate to make fun of religion or severely criticize it - from the left or right - in general EXCEPT the religion of Islam and even the sick, twisted version. So, like Obama and Clinton, it is duty to not say anything unkind about the slavery/murder/grotesque abuse of women and denial of all human rights they preach and demand all submit to.
 
We shouldn't have embassies in many of these countries anymore. They've proven they aren't capable of maintaining basic law and order. Evacuate all US personnel ASAP. Shoot anyone who tries to stop us from leaving.
 

And they're going to get MORE apology and MORE retreat.
 
Harshaw said:
Yes, it absolutely does. They smell weakness, because our response reeks of it.
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What do you suggest Obama do? dictators or not these protests would have still happened anyway and there's absolutely nothing the United States could possibly do to stop them.
 
L0neW0lf said:
What do you suggest Obama do? dictators or not these protests would have still happened anyway and there's absolutely nothing the United States could possibly do to stop them.
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Not if there had been a forceful and swift response to the Libyan and Egyptian attacks, instead of thumb-sucking and apology.

When you kill our people, you need to be killed back, and it needs to be made clear that whoever else decides to try will meet with the same fate. We have quite a few people in uniform whose job it is to do that.
 
Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by an Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi,
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So violence and American deaths have nothing to do with the Arab Spring, Obama's foreign policy?

Who is responsible for providing adequate security to Embassy personnel?

You can't keep passing the buck.

One would think American foreign policy is accountable.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
 
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If the United States actually strikes those protesters which I understand is what you're suggesting, every single American in the middle east would have legitimate fear for his or her life and the US would have no possible way to protect most of them in time. Not to mention It would be disastrous for American interests in the region and therefor it is simply never going to happen, at least not when there's a sane leader in charge.
 


So you think its not disastrous for American interests in the region now?
 
L0neW0lf said:
What do you suggest Obama do? dictators or not these protests would have still happened anyway and there's absolutely nothing the United States could possibly do to stop them.
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They can stop the billion of dollars pouring in in those countries to begin with.
 
L0neW0lf said:
If the United States actually strikes those protesters which I understand is what you're suggesting, every single American in the middle east would have legitimate fear for his or her life
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Oh, well, if that's going to be the overriding concern in making these decisions, then we might as well just withdraw from the world and go home, because we're way too timid to be in it.

They've already killed our people. They're already looking to kill more. And it is ALREADY disastrous for American interests in the region.

A "sane" leader would recognize this.
 
Harshaw said:
And they're going to get MORE apology and MORE retreat.
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Clinton demands Arab Spring nations protect embassies, halt violence - CNN.com


Obama vows to bring to justice ambassador's killers | Reuters

Reuters) - President Barack Obama vowed on Wednesday to "bring to justice" the Islamist gunmen responsible for a ferocious assault that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans - an attack that may have been organized in advance.
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U.S. Marines deployed amid Muhammad film protests - World - CBC News

An elite team of Marines have arrived in Yemen's capital as violent protests rage at the U.S. Embassy over the depiction of the Prophet Muhammad in an American-made film.
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Marine unit en route to Sudan to secure US Embassy | Fox News



Your version of events don't add up with the reality.
 
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