Animals protected - humans rejected

[jimmyjack]

I said the statement is true, so end of argument. :lol:

Glad you agree.

 

[vergiss]

Good for you, and I said something to the effect that not all eggs are protected.

But you just said that unborn birds are protected by law. Getting confused, sweetie?

Glad you agree.

Yes, nice to see you grow a brain and agree with me on abortion.

 

[jallman]

But you just said that unborn birds are protected by law. Getting confused, sweetie?

Whew, I thought maybe it was just me suffering a mental lapse and was unable to see his point. I think maybe its time to just abandon this thread as irrelevant claptrap and take it off my subscribed list. It seems he isnt going to offer anything worth debating after all.

Hey vergiss :2wave:

 

[jimmyjack]

But you just said that unborn birds are protected by law. Getting confused, sweetie?

How does any of my statements detract from this?

Yes, nice to see you grow a brain and agree with me on abortion.

Yes, it is good when we can both agree that abortion is murder.

 

[jallman]

How does any of my statements detract from this?




Yes, it is good when we can both agree that abortion is murder.

But you lie...abortion by legal definition is NOT murder. Even if you delve deeper into the scientific reasoning of why (the criteria for personhood) you cant even make a case for it being murder. What gives?

 

[jimmyjack]

But you lie...abortion by legal definition is NOT murder. Even if you delve deeper into the scientific reasoning of why (the criteria for personhood) you cant even make a case for it being murder. What gives?

I was replying to vergiss in relation to the point that we have mutual agreement.

Besides, the law is in a state of contradiction, it claims abortion is murder whilst legislation exist to permit it.

This is why the law is flawed, and the laws permitting it need to be abolished.

 

[jallman]

I was replying to vergiss in relation to the point that we have mutual agreement.

Besides, the law is in a state of contradiction, it claims abortion is murder whilst legislation exist to permit it.

This is why the law is flawed, and the laws permitting it need to be abolished.

I disagree and so does the SCOTUS, but still...what does this have to do with your initial assertions about birds and such? :roll:

 

[vergiss]

How does any of my statements detract from this?

Because you said that not all eggs are protected... :doh

Yes, it is good when we can both agree that abortion is murder.

You were talking about bird eggs. I was talking about abortion being a right in a civilised country. :mrgreen:

 

[jimmyjack]

Because you said that not all eggs are protected... :doh

Correct, and so my statements are still true.

You were talking about bird eggs. I was talking about abortion being a right in a civilised country. :mrgreen:

But what is so civilised about killing our own species?

 

[jallman]

But what is so civilised about killing our own species?

The same thing that is civilized about removing an appendix if it is the offending biological mass. The same thing that is civilized about removing a kidney if it is the offending mass of biological tissue....where is your pont...and again, how does this relate to birds being more protected than human beings?

 

[jimmyjack]

I disagree and so does the SCOTUS, but still...what does this have to do with your initial assertions about birds and such? :roll:

It is you that sidetracked the debate.

Anyway, do you claim the statement is false, if so what part and why?

 

[vergiss]

Correct, and so my statements are still true.

So it's both "the law protects unborn birds" and "the law doesn't protect all eggss"? Make up your mind!

But what is so civilised about killing our own species?

Again, to use your "logic" - because I said so!

 

[jimmyjack]

So it's both "the law protects unborn birds" and "the law doesn't protect all eggss"? Make up your mind!

Correct, now let’s move onto lesson two.

Species: The law protects some and not others.

Again, to use your "logic" - because I said so!

No, I simply asked you: what was so civilised about killing our own species?

 

[vergiss]

Correct, now let’s move onto lesson two.

Species: The law protects some and not others.

Wow, you get it after 3 or so pages. :doh

So, if your statements are true, where's the evidence?

No, I simply asked you: what was so civilised about killing our own species?

We simply asked you what your source was. If it exists, why not provide it?

Stop evading before you get banned for trolling.

 

[jimmyjack]

Wow, you get it after 3 or so pages. :doh

But it is taking you longer to get it, isn't it?

So, if your statements are true, where's the evidence?

We simply asked you what your source was. If it exists, why not provide it?

Stop evading before you get banned for trolling.

Do you deny it? Do I really need to educate you?

 

[jimmyjack]

The same thing that is civilized about removing an appendix if it is the offending biological mass. The same thing that is civilized about removing a kidney if it is the offending mass of biological tissue....where is your pont...and again, how does this relate to birds being more protected than human beings?

Well if you think a body part is also a human being, then you are a fool.

 

[cherokee]

Unborn Bird’s protected by law.

Unborn humans are not protected by law.

Our priorities are wrong.

Really? Which species?
What area do they inhabit? US or non-US?
Who did the research and or study?
What year was it done in?
Was the study done with the birds knowing they were being observed?

 

[jimmyjack]

Really? Which species?
What area do they inhabit? US or non-US?
Who did the research and or study?
What year was it done in?
Was the study done with the birds knowing they were being observed?

Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act (16 U.S.C. 668-668C).

* This Act makes it illegal to import, export, or take bald or golden eagles, or to sell, purchase, or barter their parts, or products made from them, including their nests or eggs.

http://www.endangeredspecie.com/protect.htm

 

[cherokee]

Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act (16 U.S.C. 668-668C).

* This Act makes it illegal to import, export, or take bald or golden eagles, or to sell, purchase, or barter their parts, or products made from them, including their nests or eggs.

http://www.endangeredspecie.com/protect.htm

ok thank's for the link...

Are humans on the endangered species list?

 

[jimmyjack]

ok thank's for the link...

Its ok, I have to deal with ignorant people like you all the time.

 

[cherokee]

Its ok, I have to deal with ignorant people like you all the time.

Oh ok, so much for being civilized.

I’m just you asking a question
Are humans on the endangered species list?

 

[talloulou]

ok thank's for the link...

Are humans on the endangered species list?

No, but healthy babies up for adoption in the US might as well be. :rofl

 

[jimmyjack]

Oh ok, so much for being civilized.

I’m just you asking a question
Are humans on the endangered species list?

I would say a human on the brink of being aborted is definitely in danger

 

[alphamale]

Some of us anti-speciesists are also anti-abortion.

 

[mikhail]

babies dont generally get shot with shotguns for fun