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Andrew Cuomo vs. Zohran Mamdani for NYC Mayor

Choose: Andrew Cuomo vs. Zohran Mamdani for NYC Mayor


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I was quite honest that I find the grandma-killer who wants to do sexual harassment to be slightly less off-putting than the communist who wants to do an intifada. And in the general election, Zohran Mamdani can face Eric Adams, another criminal who takes bribes. NYC really served up some awesome choices this time around.

Hence why I think you'd side with fascists where the rubber meets the road. That's what you guys do when progressives try to make government work for the people.
 
I never claimed to be anything other than a neoliberal. It's been right there, the first word in my profile since I joined the forum in 2021. My policy wish list is in my signature. 🤷‍♂️

So Abundance is a scam? And Zohran is the dishonest actor? 🧐:unsure:
 
I don't even know what you're blathering about anymore. Have a great evening.

Abundance isn't supposed to be repackaged neoliberalism and a way to sideline progressives. That's what progressives THINK it is. Do you even know what you're talking about?

You're saying 'Yes, it's neoliberalism. And Zohran claimed to be Abundance, but he's not really a neoliberal'.

Umm... LOL. You don't realize how much of an own this is. You're out of the loop. You're supposed to be hush-hush that it's just neoliberaism.

 
You're out of the loop. You're supposed to be hush-hush that it's just neoliberaism.
I'm not sure who you think you are to tell me what I'm supposed to do, but I've had the word neoliberal front-and-center in my profile for 4 years, along with my entire policy wish list in my sig. It's not my fault if you didn't notice it until now.

If you think they're wildly different ideologies, that's fine, whatever. I'm not the one gatekeeping. If communists can read an Ezra Klein book and take something positive away from it, great. Be sure to read some Matt Yglesias too.
 
I'm not sure who you think you are to tell me what I'm supposed to do, but I've had the word neoliberal front-and-center in my profile for 4 years, along with my entire policy wish list in my sig. It's not my fault if you didn't notice it until now.

If you think they're wildly different ideologies, that's fine, whatever. I'm not the one gatekeeping. If communists can read an Ezra Klein book and take something positive away from it, great. Be sure to read some Matt Yglesias too.

Why won't Neoliberals just run on Neoliberalism if Abundance isn't a scam?

Ezra and Derrick have said that they want an FDR style agenda that makes government efficient, progressive and work for the people. Is that what you take from Abundance?
 
Why won't Neoliberals just run on Neoliberalism if Abundance isn't a scam?
Huh? Those are just two words that have very similar, overlapping meanings. Same with "New Liberalism" or "Silicon Valley Democrats" or "Supply-Side Progressivism" or "Liberal Technocracy" or "Drawbridge-Down" in The Economist styling...whatever you want to call it. Maybe you can differentiate between some of those things if you squint hard enough, but they're essentially the same cluster of ideas. You can fixate on the labels if you want. I don't really care which one you want to pick. You don't have to pick any of them at all.
Ezra and Derrick have said that they want an FDR style agenda that makes government efficient, progressive and work for the people. Is that what you take from Abundance?
That refers to acknowledging tradeoffs and building more stuff by removing barriers. So for example, let's look at Zohran Mamdani's answer to a housing question, versus how an abundance liberal might respond. (This is just an example, the particulars here aren't that important.)

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Note the bait-and-switch in this response. Mamdani, to his credit, is better than most socialists in that he doesn't immediately reject the premise of this question and start ranting about how real estate developers are the Great Satan or whatever. He even claims to believe that the private sector is critical to addressing the problem. OK, good start (although even his top-line goal of 200,000 new homes in the next decade is woefully insufficient and less than NYC builds now).

But then let's look at the highlighted portion. What that reads like is "I'll allow real estate developers to build more housing as long as they do burdensome things A, B, C, D, and E. And if those aren't enough to dissuade them, then I'll add burdensome things F, G, and H later.

Reading between the lines here, he isn't actually serious about wanting developers to build housing, at least not if it interferes with a half-dozen other things. This is, at best, an inability to prioritize and, at worst, a deliberate ruse. The abundance approach would be to say that if you actually are serious about building more housing, then cut the red tape and get out of the way. Does every private sector project really need union labor and rent-stabilization and sustainability and land-use review and blah blah blah? Well, that's going to mean less housing gets built. Figure out which one or two things are top priorities, and cut away the rest of the nonsense. Don't try to do everything at once if your main goal is to increase the housing supply.
 
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I wonder how many sub-5-mW laser pointers, held by people on all sides and many blocks away, it would take to create an apparent Eye of Sauron hovering in the air above that thing.
The wild thing about that building is that it is mostly empty because the apartments are way too expensive for the average New Yorker.

This is why I keep saying that there is a lot of housing construction going on in the city but it isn’t housing that people can afford.
 
Nonetheless, it took just hours from when I posted that for the Republicans to come up with some McCarthy-era law (which, of course, was never repealed, not even when Democrats had House, Senate, and White House) to revoke his U.S. citizenship. https://newrepublic.com/post/197279/maga-depraved-new-plan-democratic-star-zohran-mamdani
He is nonetheless a citizen. I don't want to gkve redhats any notions, but what're they going to do, send him to Gitmo as an enemy combatant?
 
Hence why I think you'd side with fascists where the rubber meets the road. That's what you guys do when progressives try to make government work for the people.
It is fascinating to watch your "smallest tent mathematically possible" act.
 
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