Reverend Slip
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- Sep 26, 2005
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- Cincinnati Ohio
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Reverend Slip said:The first issue here is the question; “Is the fetus alive or not?” I mean, if the fetus is not living, we can rationalize the act by thinking; “It never was alive to begin with.” Personally, after Day 1 of development, I think the child is alive, because it’s feeding off the mother’s body to survive, and though fetus may be considered a parasite, a parasite is a living organism, and as that is, you are killing something. Period, and that is wrong.
......... but then, people can turn right around after yelling “Pro-life” and call for the death penalty.
I am glad you oppose war and the death penalty. But on the other hand, the fetus is not a person (See Roe vs Wade, Section IX), so the relevance of your remark to abortion is not immediately clear here.Reverend Slip said:Yes I am. I tend to hate anyone or anything that kills a person, period.
steen said:I am glad you oppose war and the death penalty. But on the other hand, the fetus is not a person (See Roe vs Wade, Section IX), so the relevance of your remark to abortion is not immediately clear here.
Tacobell said:Thank you bringing up the Roe vs Wade case here, I just read it and agree.
First...he says "we need not resolve" the question and that he is "not in a position to speculate" and then he does JUST THAT?
Second...has there been any advancement in medicine, philosophy, and theology since 1972?
Tacobell said:Wasn't the Roe vs Wade case also reexamined in a 1992 case, Planned Parenthood vs Casy, only to reaffirm its earlier decision?
Felicity said:Ok...has there been any medical, philosophical, religious -and legal-development since 1992?
Also--Casey cites social reasons, not reasons on the basis of personhood...rather, on the basis of DEPENDENCE on abortion due to DEPENDENCE on contraception.
Tacobell said:Thank you for the explanation.
Elektra said:It's so often the most religious who are most bitter, hatred filled people.
vergiss said:I'm not breeding until I decide that I want to. .
Felicity said:That's great that you're remaining celibate until your ready to get pregnant!
vergiss said:Yep, that's right. I'll only ever have sex twice in my life. :roll: :lol:
That would be your second choice....the one that you make when you realize you're not bulletproof and the promises of contraception prove you to be "one of the 1-???% of failure rate."vergiss said:Yep. And my choice would be get rid of it.
vergiss said:So, yes. Choice two, plan B, etc. Your point?
vergiss said:I made that single first choice - to use contraception. Nothing's certain, Felicity. Even if a girl is celibate, she might still be raped and fall pregnant as a result.
Besides, I fail to see any logic in your argument. Sex should automatically mean you want babies, even if you use contraception to avoid it happening? Um... how does that work? Does that mean you should automatically want STDs, too?
Felicity said:No...the logic is that if you ABSOLUTELY don't want to accept the possibility of pregnancy--don't have sex. If you don't want a baby--but are willing to accept the responsibility of AT LEAST carrying the child to term should you get pregnant--by all means...go for it...I'm personally against contraception for various reasons--not least of which is that you can avoid pregnancy without medicating a healthy body...but whatever--if you don't kill anyone...whatever....
By the way--if both the man and the woman were virgins when they committed to one another...NEITHER will have an STD.
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