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And now will come a new Amendment

Yeah, okay, buddy.
show me where i said voter fraud. ol yea you can't.

So what you're saying is Biden did not get nearly as many votes as he should have.

prove all those people would have voted for biden first. ol yea you can't.

you seem to make a lot of accusations you can't prove ol well
 
show me where i said voter fraud. ol yea you can't.

Except that is exactly what you were talking about and you immediately followed "where did I say anything about voter fraud?!" with a list of voter fraud claims.



prove all those people would have voted for biden first. ol yea you can't.

Biden encouraged his voters to vote by mail. Trump told his voters not to vote by mail. The election results are showing how people voted were generally dependent on who they were voting for.

you seem to make a lot of accusations you can't prove ol well

Says the guy with a whole list of voter fraud accusations. My god, project much?
 
i didn't those were stories on the paper by people who experienced it. so please prove those people are lying.

they are stories that occured in just the past few weeks so please prove the newspapers are lying. once again you can't.

again yoy make accusations with nothing to support those accusations.

again please show where i said anything about voter fraud? you can't because i didn't.

what i did say was the whole mailing ballot thing is a disaster and it was.

thanks for showing that you can't prove anything you said though. not that i expected you to.
 

You are clearly gaslighting so you will get no more responses from me. Have a nice day.
 


Having them registered to vote is perfectly fine. Having that person vote is fine as well. Voting for that person is illegal
 
Oh, so minorities can't figure out how to use absentee ballots or find their way to polling places? Sounds quite patronizing. BTW, it looks like Trump got 20% of black men and greatly increased his Hispanic support. I wonder how that happened.



Mail in ballots made exit polls inaccurate
 
 
Plenty of mail in balloting before this year. I guess its only a problem when your guy loses.
 
What's the difference between a mail in ballot and voting in person?

I can't see it.
easier to tamper with , add to or subtract from.

pretty easy to see that.
 
easier to tamper with , add to or subtract from.

pretty easy to see that.
Really? Walk me thru the easy to tamper with/add in or subtract from part? Not vague claims, but specifics if in fact it would be easy to do. And perhaps also offer who is going to be carrying out this fraud on a sufficiently large scale so as to make a difference in any election,.
 
true.
a mail out ballot has no verification of the person receiving it is that person.

Again, false. Every absentee ballot has voter verification measures.

You've never actually seen an absentee ballot before, have you?
 
I don't get it. Wouldn't republicans be able to do that too with mail in voting?
 
That's not the point. The point is that hundreds of thousands of people could do it
Every single person in this country could decide to rob a liquor store tomorrow. You can't swing an election with hypothetical fraud.

and there's no way to detect it.
Completely false. Right wing brainwashing at its best.
Mail in and ID-less voting is an invitation to fraud, abuse and inefficiency. It cannot be otherwise.
It can be and it absolutely is otherwise.
 
Again, false. Every absentee ballot has voter verification measures.

You've never actually seen an absentee ballot before, have you?
these are not absentee ballots. absentee ballots must be requested by the person.

the fact you don't know what you are talking about makes this conversation impossible.
 
Automatically issue each citizen an ID and you'll actually see more states enact that rule. Not that there is a widespread problem to address...

If it's a requirement for voting then it would have to be a requirement for the government to provide it. I agree with your statement.
 
Assuming we can convince 2/3s of both houses to agree and 3/4s of states to approve. Not holding my breath.
 
If it's a requirement for voting then it would have to be a requirement for the government to provide it. I agree with your statement.

The problem is some states make it a requirement for voting without automatically providing the IDs to the citizens. Many citizens, particularly low income and urban-dwelling citizens (Democratic voters), do not have IDs which is why it is politically convenient for Republicans to pretend there is a major issue with voter fraud.
 

Then I think those states should be required by law to provide it. Voting shouldn't cost people anything.
 
Which states?
 
You have no clue
 


We can have a Republic and democracy.

They are not mutually exclusive.

The problem you have with democracy is it allows people to vote who you don't think should be allowed to vote.

Also, nothing is going to change anyway. The hurdle to amending the Constitution is too high:

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But most Trump supporters do not understand this because they fell asleep through or didn't even attend government/civics classes.
 

Trump lost. Put on your big boy pants and accept it.
 

Trump lost. Trump is a loser. Suck it up. Act like an adult.
 
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