I'm not Jack, but if I may chime in here. . .
Pushing mileage standards to the detriment of cargo capacity and efficiency is just silly. Yes, the big heavy cars of my younger years were gas guzzlers--12 to 15 mpg was pretty good then--but we could pile six or seven folks--sometimes more--into them to go places and we frequently did. Taking two cars getting 30 mpg to transport the same number of people to a destination is not helpful, most especially when you factor in all the other components of energy consumption that is necessary to build, maintain, and operate a vehicle and the infrastructure to accommodate it.
If I drive a gas-guzzling Hummer 1 mile to work every day, I am not going to impact the environment more than your 30-mile commute in your hybrid.
As for cleaner coal, the USA is making strides to accomplishing that and the effort will continue as an affluent society demands clean water, clean air, uncontaminated soil and environment, as less affluent societies have the luxury to do. Coal is the most plentiful and cheapest fuel source on Earth and President Trump is on board to utilize it but also to develop processes to make it clean and environmentally friendly. That should be the emphasis and not just phasing it out because it isn't as clean as natural gas now. And yes, as natural gas is a plentiful and environmentally friendly fuel source, we should continue to drill, drill, drill.
When the carbon fuels gradually run out on Planet Earth, humankind will have developed fuel sources more like the visionary Star Trek models. I wish I could be around for that, but hopefully I'll get to watch.
You leave aside the question, should we not increase mileage standards, push for cleaner coal (if that is possible), etc.? What do you suggest we do?
Makes sense, you have a bigger family, drive a bigger car... Fine with me... tho I see fewer Hummers these days.
My presumption is that starting up hundreds of millions of cars daily, burning coal, etc, have consequences. Scientists seem to agree, and have published articles documenting how. When the evidence changes I assume different articles and outlets will sing a different tune. Then we change policy. I will buy a '59 Caddy. Til then, I am glad cars will get higher mileage, that we plan to use less coal, etc.
Your presumption is not exactly good science.
Your idea that scientists agree comes from propaganda.
If you can manage to read any science papers which detail any actual trouble from a slightly wamrer world, and are credible, please tell me what it is.
FYI, the article is fake.
Climate sensitivity, sea level and atmospheric carbon dioxide
"Burning all fossil fuels, we conclude, would make most of the planet uninhabitable by humans, thus calling into question strategies that emphasize adaptation to climate change."
Not that I expect you to take a blind bit of notice. On past form you'll simply ignore any answers to your question, and just keep asking it :roll:
Everything he does...
Two for you:
ON CLIMATE SENSITIVITY AND WHY IT IS PROBABLY SMALL
Impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity
[FONT=&]Posted on April 24, 2018 by niclewis | 281 comments[/FONT]
by Nic Lewis
We have now updated the LC15 paper with a new paper that has been published in the Journal of Climate “The impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity“. The paper also addresses critiques of LC15.
Continue reading →
Two for you:
ON CLIMATE SENSITIVITY AND WHY IT IS PROBABLY SMALL
Impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity
[FONT=&]Posted on April 24, 2018 by niclewis | 281 comments[/FONT]
by Nic Lewis
We have now updated the LC15 paper with a new paper that has been published in the Journal of Climate “The impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity“. The paper also addresses critiques of LC15.
Continue reading →
So how much of the planet will be rendered uninhabitable if Lewis and Curry's estimate is correct? Is there any reason to believe that their estimate of ECS from climate models is likely to be more accurate than Hansen's estimate from palaeoclimate data?
Shaviv is not a climatologist, and his work in this area has been widely criticized. Even putting a charitable spin on it means that his work needs work. At the moment, it's in the lowest category.
To answer your first question: none.
Humor / Satire
[h=1]Friday Funny: The neurobiology of “climate change denial”[/h]Guest essay by John Ridway Much work has already been undertaken to establish the cognitive foundation for the irrationality of climate change denial. Of particular note are the studies undertaken by Lewandowsky, Kahneman, Shapiro and O’Conner, identifying the many cognitive biases that invalidate arguments put forward by those who profess scepticism in the face of…
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-to-rethink-corn/
[EU biodiesel production]
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-e...-to-stem-biodiesel-import-flood-idUKKCN1GJ2I9
The EU and USA are using all the world's food suppliers to ramp up the price of food.
Nope.
Utterly obvious unless you learnt your economics from Marx.
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Do I need to substanciate that it is daytime?
[Life expectancy]
Poverty Facts and Stats ? Global Issues
Then you will need to read a graph. It might be hard due to you having to think about things you don't want to;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_curve#/media/File:PrestonCurve2005.JPG
There are rich in every nation. They cause the life expectancy numbers to increase particualrly as they are easy to count in a census.
www.un.org/esa/socdev/rwss/docs/2010/chapter2.pdf
The UN numbers are of about 3 billion people on less than $2.50 a day but then this particualr data is from 2005 so maybe all those poor people are driving cars now.
You will willingly blind yourself to the utterly obvious.
You are brainless in the face of the utterly obvious facts that show your chosen religion to be the biggest mass murder machine since the Mongol invaisions.
Evidence?
Climate sensitivity, sea level and atmospheric carbon dioxide
"Burning all fossil fuels, we conclude, would make most of the planet uninhabitable by humans, thus calling into question strategies that emphasize adaptation to climate change."
Not that I expect you to take a blind bit of notice. On past form you'll simply ignore any answers to your question, and just keep asking it :roll:
Literally one country on the planet was below a 50 year life expectancy in 2015. Chad. Population 15 million. This throws off your math. Worse, back when you did the math you did it wrong. Compounding the hilarity, your calculations presume literally 100% of mortality below that income level is attributable to biofuel related price increase. You know some people don’t even eat corn at all, right?
- “We ask the question of whether one’s political preferences are manifested in the hand used while cleansing one’s posterior.” Another predatory journal sting, courtesy of Gary Lewis. (Psychology and Psychotherapy)
Using structural equation modeling us formally confirmed this finding - the AIC was
1654.23 and the RMSEA was .02. These are excellent fit statistics
although the model makes little sense.
My bold.
Two for you:
- “We ask the question of whether one’s political preferences are manifested in the hand used while cleansing one’s posterior.” Another predatory journal sting, courtesy of Gary Lewis. (Psychology and Psychotherapy)
Judith Curry works for Big Oil.
"As Stephen Schneider, the eminent Stanford climate scientist who died prematurely last summer, told me: “It is frankly shocking to see such a good scientist take that kind of a turn to sloppy thinking. I have no explanation for it.”
I do.
Why I Wrote About Judith Curry | Climate Central
SSDD..
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