Point. However, pick side, hold your nose and vote. Or vote 3rd party. I stand by what I said. Don't vote? Don't bitch. And that goes for both sides. IF Comma-la wins because Pubs didn't vote, I don't want to hear THEM bitching either. THEY chose to not vote for Trump and allowed Comma-La to win. ****'em.They have whatever reason they see fit, especially the voters who don't support either candidate. Choosing not to vote sometimes means refusing to endorse either candidate. That is really what a vote is. It is an endorsement.
I assume you are keeping in mind that the denizens of a political discussion forum are not representative of American people in general.I'm curious what the likelihood to vote is right now.
I personally think that the solution is not to check out of the process, it's to find a way to educate and inform the people you worry are not capable of doing it.I've become completely disenfranchised with participating in any kind of democratic electoral process.
If the past 8 years have taught me anything, it's that the average citizen lacks the intellect to process the abundance of information necessary to make an informed decision about governance. I would happily give up my voting rights to be led by an aristocratic elite instead of suffering the humiliation of standing in the voting line next to an "equivalent" citizen who is grossly overweight, unwashed, loud, uneducated, etc. and can hardly make decisions about governing themselves, let alone the most powerful state in human history.
Democracy is not inherently a superior form of government because it leads to better results. It provably doesn't. An elected leader is no better or more perfect than a leader who inherits his or her position. You can get a good leader or a bad leader in any form of government.I don't think it demonstrates that at all. Many of the European monarchies were remarkably stable. American democracy has been at war for 231 out of the 248 years it has existed and within that time period there have been numerous civil wars and civil conflicts. Many of the first swings at democracy in 20th century Europe were catastrophic failures and the post-war examples are effectively American vassals which wouldn't be able to sustain themselves if not for the US overseeing and protecting global liberal trade.
I understand the appeals of democracy but it's just modernist chauvinism when people point at democracy as obviously being the superior system. It's not so obvious to me that is the case and I've yet to hear a coherent argument that is actually convincing.
That's the beauty of the First Amendment. They can bitch whether you approve or not. Sometimes not voting gives you the most freedom... the freedom to say "You guys ****ed it up, not me. Both candidates sucked."Point. However, pick side, hold your nose and vote. Or vote 3rd party. I stand by what I said. Don't vote? Don't bitch. And that goes for both sides. IF Comma-la wins because Pubs didn't vote, I don't want to hear THEM bitching either. THEY chose to not vote for Trump and allowed Comma-La to win. ****'em.
Not the best forum for this poll. Obviously those substantially invested in our politics are grossly over sampled in this venueI'm curious what the likelihood to vote is right now.
Same, except I’ll leave the top line blank again. The way we’re going I may never vote for President again.I'll vote in person for my local and state candidates. Jen Kiggans (R) gets my vote to represent my district in Congress.
I'm writing in "foghorn Leghorn" for President.
Paying taxes gives everyone all the Justin they need to voice their opinion. Or even if they don’t pay taxes.I would hope if someone plans NOT to vote that they keep their opinion of things to themselves
They have no voice.
They are the tree that fell in the forest.
The tree, the forest and all.Paying taxes gives everyone all the Justin they need to voice their opinion. Or even if they don’t pay taxes.
Last option for me (not a US citizen).
But if I were, I'd definitely vote.
I don't even have to request a mail-in ballot. All voting in Colorado is done by mail/drop boxes. It's been that way for around ten years.
There are a limited number of polling places open on election day for those who prefer to vote in person.
What could go wrong...but hasn't in Colorado yet...is accepting and counting ballots days and weeks after the polls close.So they send out ballots to anyone on the voter rolls - which democrats go to court to keep from being cleaned.
What could go wrong?
I got no problem with people voting 3rd party. If you feel strongly about that vote, OR you think the 2 mainstream candidates suck, you at least made a decision. to vote.That's the beauty of the First Amendment. They can bitch whether you approve or not. Sometimes not voting gives you the most freedom... the freedom to say "You guys ****ed it up, not me. Both candidates sucked."
Besides, the people who vote third party are always criticized for throwing their vote away. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Respect is overrated. Enemies will never respect you. Friends don't need explanations.If
I got no problem with people voting 3rd party. If you feel strongly about that vote, OR you think the 2 mainstream candidates suck, you at least made a decision. to vote.
You're right they can and will bitch, they just don't have my respect or inclination to take what they say seriously.
Imagine thinking MAGA freaks were 99.99% of the population.The aristocratic elite understand you 100% clearly and have already rigged the entire system into a political establishment that functions without regard to the 99.99% of the rest of the country, affectionately known as the deplorables. The only thing they ask of you is that you help them defeat any threats to their system.
If you go back thousands of years you still usually find the top .1% ruling the bottom 99.9%. What the top .1% need are efficient systems of control for the people. I think religion was a great system of control until science and widespread communications made it ineffective for entire populations. The illusion of democracy is good as it puts the blame of bad governance on the people and not the ruling class. It's the people's fault for voting for Trump, or it's the peoples fault for voting for Biden. Trump and Biden are just distractions and really don't have the power to affect the ruling class.
I am not voting for either candidate.
Harris represents the World Economic Forum and Trump is a malignant narcissist, the likes of which tend to react in extreme ways to those who challenge them.
I explained my reason for not voting for either.Then why not vote for Donald Trump?
I explained my reason for not voting for either.
I am not voting for either candidate.
Harris represents the World Economic Forum and Trump is a malignant narcissist, the likes of which tend to react in extreme ways to those who challenge them.
Aristocratic elites have never steered a country right. They have only ever starved, murdered or defrauded the people they rule.I've become completely disenfranchised with participating in any kind of democratic electoral process.
If the past 8 years have taught me anything, it's that the average citizen lacks the intellect to process the abundance of information necessary to make an informed decision about governance. I would happily give up my voting rights to be led by an aristocratic elite instead of suffering the humiliation of standing in the voting line next to an "equivalent" citizen who is grossly overweight, unwashed, loud, uneducated, etc. and can hardly make decisions about governing themselves, let alone the most powerful state in human history.
I guess it depends on how difficult the Republicants are going to make it for a registered Democrat to vote....I'm curious what the likelihood to vote is right now.
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