Americans' Declining Support for Openly Transgender U.S. Troops

[Maccabee]

Gosh, I guess that meas lawyers (professional experts) can be wrong, right?

Yes, but for one, they were proven wrong by OTHER experts in the field testing the hypothesis and coming up with a different answer, not some random person on the Internet relying on his "common sense." For another, you have yet to provide any substantial evidence that would disprove what multiple peer reviewed studies are saying. Why is that? I gave you the opportunity to have an ally on your side if you can come up with a peer reviewed paper made within the last 10 years backing up your claim. Yet you have yet to do so? Why? Wouldn't having one less "trans activist" off your back be worth it if you can actually back up your claims with science?

 

[Questerr]

I didn't though. Play White for example is a trans person that knows she's not a woman.

It's trans people that were born male that insist that they're women that can't be. So it's a delusion.

Because it's true see you both I clarify but I bet you ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative.

No your gas lighting simply failed.

Because your gas lighting failed yeah go pick someone more global.

Thank you that's 100% true.

I assume you mean "Blaire White", and again you are wrong. She says she's not a "biological woman" aka female, which no trans woman claims to be anyways.

 

[CLAX1911]

Common sense says that means the sun orbits the earth just like the moon does.

Show how that's common sense it's common Sense it'll be easy.

 

[Xilnik]

I didn't though. Play White for example is a trans person that knows she's not a woman.

It's trans people that were born male that insist that they're women that can't be. So it's a delusion.

Because it's true see you both I clarify but I bet you ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative.

No your gas lighting simply failed.

Because your gas lighting failed yeah go pick someone more global.

Thank you that's 100% true.

Your posts are becoming less and less coherent. A transgender woman who knows she's not a woman is the true transgender woman, but the transgender woman who believes she's a woman is delusional, but you never said transgender people are delusional...

No gaslighting necessary. I provided the quotes where you called transgender women delusional if they believe they're women. That's kinda the whole point of being a transgender woman... You providing an example of someone who discusses sex as opposed to gender isn't the argument you think it is.

Do you feel like this?

 

[CLAX1911]

I assume you mean "Blaire White", and again you are wrong. She says she's not a "biological woman" aka female, which no trans woman claims to be anyways.

It's smart position that's the only kind of women there are are biological women. It's a superfluous add-on that doesn't mean anything kind of like cis.

When you say woman nobody is confused except for maybe you.

 

[Maccabee]

I could give you a hundred million chances to provide a scientific source that backs up your claim and you won't provide one because your position is based on hating trans people.

This is why I put him in the ignore box. His opinion is worth more than every scientific paper out there.

 

[Questerr]

Show how that's common sense it's common Sense it'll be easy.

Because anyone can see the sun, moon, and stars moving while the earth remains still.

 

[Questerr]

It's smart position that's the only kind of women there are are biological women. It's a superfluous add-on that doesn't mean anything kind of like cis.

When you say woman nobody is confused except for maybe you.

To bigots who hate trans people, yes.

 

[Loulit01]

I'm not asking you for the definition I want to know what you mean.

I'm going to go by the definition I'm going to go with white that means someone who's considered in the white race there's nothing wrong with that

Christian meeting someone who believes in God there's also nothing wrong with that

And nationalist which means Patriots and there's nothing wrong with that so did I get it right is that what you meant

If not clear up your terms

“A common misunderstanding would be that it is the same thing as being a patriotic Christian,” said Philip Gorski, chair of the Department of Sociology at Yale. “Patriotism is an adherence to the ideals of the United States, and nationalism is loyalty to your tribe and not the country.”

Christian nationalism is a form of religious nationalism that focuses on promoting the Christian views of its followers, in order to achieve prominence or dominance in political, cultural, and social life. Christian nationalism overlaps with white supremacy.

Christian nationalism asserts that the United States is a country founded by and for Christians. Christian nationalists in the United States advocate "a fusion of identitarian Christian identity and cultural conservatism with American civic belonging". It has been noted to bear overlap with Christian fundamentalism, white supremacy, the Seven Mountain Mandate movement, and dominionism.. Most researchers have described Christian nationalism as "authoritarian" and "boundary-enforcing" but recent research has focused on how libertarian, small-government ideology and neoliberal political economics have become part of the American Christian political identity. Christian nationalism also overlaps with but is distinct from theonomy, with it being more populist in character. Theocratic Christians seek to have the Bible inform national laws and have religious leaders in positions of government; while in America, Christian nationalists view the country's founding documents as "divinely inspired" and supernaturally revealed to Christian men to preference Christianity, and are willing to elect impious heads of state if they support right-wing causes.

Christian nationalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[CLAX1911]

Your posts are becoming less and less coherent. A transgender woman who knows she's not a woman is the true transgender woman, but the transgender woman who believes she's a woman is delusional, but you never said transgender people are delusional...

That is correct I never said transgender people are delusional.

(Transgender woman = man)

So keeping what I wrote in the parentheses in mind, a man who thinks he's a woman is delusional.

No gaslighting necessary. I provided the quotes where you called transgender women delusional if they believe they're women.

Right men who believe the women are delusional that's 100% correct

That's kinda the whole point of being a transgender woman..

So here you are saying the whole point in being a man who identifies as a woman is about being delusional you said that not me.

. You providing an example of someone who discusses sex as opposed to gender isn't the argument you think it is.

I haven't heard anybody mention gender a man implies a sex a woman implies a sex not a gender.

Femininity and masculinity described genders if we're talking about gender being something other than sex.

Do you feel like this?

Not at all.

You will have now stated that in order to be a trans woman you have to be delusional.

 

[CLAX1911]

“A common misunderstanding would be that it is the same thing as being a patriotic Christian,” said Philip Gorski, chair of the Department of Sociology at Yale. “Patriotism is an adherence to the ideals of the United States, and nationalism is loyalty to your tribe and not the country.”

Christian nationalism is a form of religious nationalism that focuses on promoting the Christian views of its followers, in order to achieve prominence or dominance in political, cultural, and social life. Christian nationalism overlaps with white supremacy.

Christian nationalism asserts that the United States is a country founded by and for Christians. Christian nationalists in the United States advocate "a fusion of identitarian Christian identity and cultural conservatism with American civic belonging". It has been noted to bear overlap with Christian fundamentalism, white supremacy, the Seven Mountain Mandate movement, and dominionism.. Most researchers have described Christian nationalism as "authoritarian" and "boundary-enforcing" but recent research has focused on how libertarian, small-government ideology and neoliberal political economics have become part of the American Christian political identity. Christian nationalism also overlaps with but is distinct from theonomy, with it being more populist in character. Theocratic Christians seek to have the Bible inform national laws and have religious leaders in positions of government; while in America, Christian nationalists view the country's founding documents as "divinely inspired" and supernaturally revealed to Christian men to preference Christianity, and are willing to elect impious heads of state if they support right-wing causes.

Christian nationalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Right this is what I thought you meant when you said white Christian nationalist which is just stupid.

A way you can tell this is the world's dumbest idea is you had to farm it out to Wikipedia.

 

[CLAX1911]

To bigots who hate trans people, yes.

You can insist that reality is hatred but it doesn't make it not reality.

I'm not going to just stop accepting reality cuz you attach hatred to it.

 

[dockside]

I can't cite an exact case of someone believing themselves to be a red squirrel faring poorly in a firefight, but I'll maintain the opinion they're likely to, regardless.

You only have to do a Google search to find numerous articles that dispute your beliefs. Here's the first one that popped up:

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/communityproviders/assets/docs/populations/TRANS_RESILIENCE_AND_MILITARY_SERVICE.pdf

 

[CLAX1911]

Because anyone can see the sun, moon, and stars moving while the earth remains still.

And thanks never heard of Australian or the UK or China if they're living in the US they don't know what time zones are how they work?

Sounds like an order to have your type of common Sense you have to be really really ignorant.

And again for that you have my pity

 

[Loulit01]

Right this is what I thought you meant when you said white Christian nationalist which is just stupid.

A way you can tell this is the world's dumbest idea is you had to farm it out to Wikipedia.

I gave you what you asked for. You replied with insults because you have no argument. Your posts are a waste of time. Good bye.

 

[CLAX1911]

You only have to do a Google search to find numerous articles that dispute your beliefs. Here's the first one that popped up:

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/communityproviders/assets/docs/populations/TRANS_RESILIENCE_AND_MILITARY_SERVICE.pdf

If you're a man that believes they're actually a woman that's delusional.

 

[Questerr]

You can insist that reality is hatred but it doesn't make it not reality.

I'm not going to just stop accepting reality cuz you attach hatred to it.

People who hated gays believed their hatred was "reality" too.

 

[CLAX1911]

I gave you what you asked for.

Thank you and I stand by my assessment that use the media organizations are losing credibility because they create the stupid Boogeyman theory and only the most gullible people fall for it.

You replied with insults because you have no argument. Your posts are a waste of time. Good bye.

I'm sorry you believe in saying nonsense I can't help you. There's nothing to argue you can believe Pete Hegseth is possessed by Beelzebub if you wish.

I see no evidence for this insane theory so it's just dismissed if you're insulted by that I'm sorry.

 

[Questerr]

And thanks never heard of Australian or the UK or China if they're living in the US they don't know what time zones are how they work?

Sounds like an order to have your type of common Sense you have to be really really ignorant.

And again for that you have my pity

Why would the sun revolving around the earth prevent time zones from existing?

 

[Xilnik]

That is correct I never said transgender people are delusional.

(Transgender woman = man)

So keeping what I wrote in the parentheses in mind, a man who thinks he's a woman is delusional.

Right men who believe the women are delusional that's 100% correct

So here you are saying the whole point in being a man who identifies as a woman is about being delusional you said that not me.



I haven't heard anybody mention gender a man implies a sex a woman implies a sex not a gender.

Femininity and masculinity described genders if we're talking about gender being something other than sex.

Not at all.

You will have now stated that in order to be a trans woman you have to be delusional.

That's a nice set of logical fallacies you've provided to your position. You’re saying a trans woman isn’t a woman, therefore she’s a man, and therefore she’s delusional, but you’re not calling trans people delusional. You claim I'm actually the one doing that. Got it. Very clear. Definitely not unraveling.

It's like you poured the cement for a house, but you made it out of icing, and then you're blaming people for noticing your house sinks in the heat. I'm not twisting your words. Like a pretzel, they're already twisted.

 

[CLAX1911]

Why would the sun revolving around the earth prevent time zones from existing?

Oh I thought you were talking about the Earth being flat time zones would disprove the Earth being flat because it would be day for the entire planet.

Read about how Nicholas Copernicus influence to the theory of a heliocentric model of the solar system.

 

[Questerr]

Oh I thought you were talking about the Earth being flat time zones would disprove the Earth being flat because it would be day for the entire planet.

Read about how Nicholas Copernicus influence to the theory of a heliocentric model of the solar system.

Science is not common sense. Copernicus proved heliocentrism by going against common sense.

 

[CLAX1911]

People who hated gays believed their hatred was "reality" too.

How would this equal people being born male or women?

And further if trans women were women why do you need to specify that they are trans. I posit that adjective is to distinguish them from real women.

Shouldn't the moniker of trans just not exist unless there's something different?

When I'm describing a car with an automatic transmission separating it from one of the mail transmissions I use the adjectives automatic and manual because they're different.

 

[CLAX1911]

Science is not common sense. Copernicus proved heliocentrism by going against common sense.

And you would have a point if we were talking about things in the 1400s or not.

Fact that you know who Copernicus is and what he did suggests you have enough common sense to know there's some more going on than what you observe.

 

[Questerr]

How would this equal people being born male or women?

And further if trans women were women why do you need to specify that they are trans. I posit that adjective is to distinguish them from real women.

Shouldn't the moniker of trans just not exist unless there's something different?

When I'm describing a car with an automatic transmission separating it from one of the mail transmissions I use the adjectives automatic and manual because they're different.

It equals bigots rejecting science when it doesn't conform to their bigotry.

The fact that you use phrases like "real women" confirms you hate trans people.