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Americans' Declining Support for Openly Transgender U.S. Troops

CLAX1911 said:
There isn't any, there are only coping mechanisms.
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Guess again,. DSM5, 302.85

Treatment for Gender Dysphoria​


Fortunately treatment options exist that are beneficial for gender dysphoria, and these consist of psychotherapy, pharmacologic therapy, as well as other nonpharmacologic therapies, and sexual reassignment surgery (SRS) (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). Professionals are changing pessimistic attitudes regarding SRS, plus more scientific evidence has shown the benefit of this procedure (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). All the same, it should be stated that SRS does not automatically mean any issue is resolved, and much psychotherapy may be needed after the procedure in order to improve outcome generally (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfaf?in, 2009).


Psychotherapy​


The use of psychotherapy, involving psychology and speech therapy, can help individual with gender dysphoria (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013) Individuals can be taught about self awareness and confidence needed to handle any issues arising in their daily lives. The support of family members can be engaged through the use of group, marital, and family therapy, which can help in creating an accommodating and encouraging environment (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013).


Through the use of speech therapy, male-to-female individuals with gender dysphoria can learn how to engage their voice and sound a lot female while talking (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). Additionally, hair therapy may be beneficial for males seeking to become females.


Pharmacologic Therapy​


Many individuals, especially those desiring a complete transformation will need hormonal therapy to enable that process (Royal College of Psychiatrists, 2013). For males seeking a female transformation, certain sex features can be covered up with particular types of hormone known as luteinizing hormone–releasing hormone (LHRH) agonists, progestational compounds, spironolactone, flutamide, and cyproterone acetate. For breast development, and to create a more female type of physical appearance, hormones such as ethinyl estradiol and conjugated estrogen are necessary. For females seeking a male transformation, the hormone testosterone will be helpful in promoting body hair.
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Gender Dysphoria DSM-5 302.85 (F64.9) - Therapedia

www.theravive.com www.theravive.com
 
Maccabee said:
Let's hope. I'm hoping for a big swing come next year.
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On the premise Trump hasn’t canceled free and open elections and we aren’t all literally fighting for our lives and democracy: generic Dems are up 8 plus in the House. Just wait till we get closer to the midterms and the economy is swirling the drain. ;)
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Appeal to authority fallacy. Anyone can read studies and medical papers to make an informed decision.
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Which ones have you read to inform your decision that transgender people should not serve in the military?
 
911Sparky said:
It wasn't all that long ago that some feared having a gay soldier share a foxhole with a straight soldier, do you think those fears were well founded?
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You're not making a compelling argument here. Gay people don't insist that there's something they're not.
 
Lisa said:
Guess again,. DSM5, 302.85

Gender Dysphoria DSM-5 302.85 (F64.9) - Therapedia

www.theravive.com www.theravive.com
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According to @CLAX1911 psychiatrists and psychologists are experts when it comes to identifying gender dysphoria (which not all trans people have) as a mental disorder (NOT illness), but they aren't experts when it comes to determining treatment for that disorder.

He rejects science when it doesn't align with his bigotry.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Knowing that you can't treat mental illnesses you can only cope with them is introductory stuff 101 level.
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The DSM itself contradicts you. Are you claiming the experts who wrote it never took 101 level classes?

Biology 101 confirms that sex and gender are NOT the same thing, yet you reject that science.
 
VySky said:
There is nothing "normal" about about a boy thinking he's really a girl.
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You think the Earth is 6,000 years old and that a man saved all the animals in the world from a global flood by putting them on a boat.
 
VySky said:
There is nothing "normal" about about a boy thinking he's really a girl.
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Nobody is pretending to be anything. Neuroscience says that their brain of trans-females is actually female in certain areas related to sex and gender. Its not an act.

CLAX1911 said:
Knowing that you can't treat mental illnesses you can only cope with them is introductory stuff 101 level.
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Mental illness is treated because that is what the job of a psychiatrist is. They treat the anxiety and depression that is often concurrent with the gender roles issues in transgender patients.

Psychiatry is not covered in psych 101. That is only mentioned after you gradate from med school and have done your internship.
 
Xilnik said:
As usual, you're delusional in thinking your perspective is reality (based on your arrogance to state that transgender people have delusions and that it's a fact despite science contradicting you).
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Science cannot possibly contradict me here.

And I didn't say trans people were delusional. Some trans women know that they're not women and that they can never be. Some trans women will insist that the women that's false they cannot be women.

You can say science disagrees with reality but you're applying some fictional version of science.
Xilnik said:
By your own argument surrounding delusion, it probably is a good thing you didn't serve in the military, flat feet or not.
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I didn't serve because I'm flat-footed not because I believe I'm a cat or a space alien or something.
 
Maccabee said:
Let's hope. I'm hoping for a big swing come next year.
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Hope in one hand and...... well, you know.

Right now the Democrats have no hope whatsover. They have no message that resonates with Americans.
 
Questerr said:
Science across multiple disciplines rejects this claim.
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100% of the science that does that is absolute quackery. If you believe a person born male can be a woman you have absolutely no grasp on reality. I don't care how many little kiss ass fashionable irrational beliefs you can list they are all 100% wrong.
Questerr said:
Why do you reject science?
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Because if the scientists telling me that a cat is a person it's wrong and it must be rejected
Questerr said:
Is your bigotry more important than science?
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It's reality if you think reality is bigoted because humans can't change their sex I'm sorry.
 
Lisa said:
Nobody is pretending to be anything. Neuroscience says that their brain of trans-females is actually female in certain areas related to sex and gender. Its not an act.
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Its BS through and through.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Science cannot possibly contradict me here.

And I didn't say trans people were delusional. Some trans women know that they're not women and that they can never be. Some trans women will insist that the women that's false they cannot be women.

You can say science disagrees with reality but you're applying some fictional version of science.

I didn't serve because I'm flat-footed not because I believe I'm a cat or a space alien or something.
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Then they aren't trans women.
 
CLAX1911 said:
No mental illnesses cannot be treated they can only be coped with. And I'll give you an example when does a trans person stop being trans?
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The DSM itself contradicts you, the guy who admits he isn't an expert. Why are you dying on this hill when you have no leg to stand on?

Being trans is not the mental disorder. Having Gender Dysphoria is. You stop gender dysphoria when you transition and no longer feel gender incongruence with yourself.

NOTE: Not all trans people have gender dysphoria.
 
CLAX1911 said:
No mental illnesses cannot be treated they can only be coped with. And I'll give you an example when does a trans person stop being trans?
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Being transgender is lifelong. The separate depression and anxiety can be successfully treated because they are 2 different conditions.

Being gay is lifelong but many gay people have been treated from anxiety, depression and self-loathing. Talk therapy also helps with anxiety and depression.

VySky said:
Its BS through and through.
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Where and why did you graduate med school? Where did you do your psych interneship?
 
CLAX1911 said:
100% of the science that does that is absolute quackery. If you believe a person born male can be a woman you have absolutely no grasp on reality. I don't care how many little kiss ass fashionable irrational beliefs you can list they are all 100% wrong.

Because if the scientists telling me that a cat is a person it's wrong and it must be rejected

It's reality if you think reality is bigoted because humans can't change their sex I'm sorry.
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Where did you get your PhD and how many years of clinical research have you done that allows you to say that science is "quackery"? Or is your bigotry your sole expertise?

When scientists say a cat is a person we can have that discussion.

No one is claiming humans can change their sex. Why do you keep unscientifically conflating sex and gender?
 
CLAX1911 said:
So you have to have a delusion in order to be a trans person? All the more reason to keep them out of the military.
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No, you can't be a trans person without being trans. If a "transwoman" doesn't believe they are a woman, then they aren't a transwoman.
 
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