Americans' Declining Support for Openly Transgender U.S. Troops

[Maccabee]

Because the left considers him an Uncle Tom. They still want and expect a black man to be a slave to their ideology.

The right has historically and currently against gay rights. Why would a gay man support a party out for his destruction?

 

[rahl]

Gender is not the same as bio sex

Yes it is.

. Biologically intersex people also exist.

Yes, genetic aberrations exist. Just like one legged humans. This doesn’t change the fact humans, like all mammals are binary.

There may be more intersex people than there are transgender people.

No there isn’t.

 

[CLAX1911]

Your failure to accept my arguments is not the same as my failure to make them.

FairPoint you did make an argument. Instead of saying you didn't make one I should have said you didn't make compelling one.

Your argument requires me to accept the ideology of gender identity no evidence at all for it, infected seems quite axiomatic.

Yes, sex and gender are associated, but that doesn't mean they're identical.

As I understand it gender is the expression of sex so they're not the exact same thing with the deeply tied to one another it's probably why gender dysphoria is a thing.

As to intersex conditions, you said you've done the reading.

I have read about them mostly regarding this argument and that people try and use this to make an argument for transgenderism which it doesn't work.

I would argue that intersexed people are still either male or female

That means you should know that chromosomes come into play, specifically XXY, XYY, XO, XXXY, XXYY, etc., and it is more than a simple defect.

Yes there are some genetic anomalies that cause a little bit of ambiguity between the sexes in a very small number of people.

I'm not sure how that makes a point

I've rarely mentioned anything about you beyond your tendency to provide disinformation,

You talked about my discomfort with things how I'm bigoted toward people and this and that and you're only convincing yourself of those things I know my thoughts and feelings infinitely better than you ever could.

so I'm not sure why you're so fixated on yourself.

Because instead of rationalizing your position you make it about my discomfort with things.

That sounds like a personal problem.

It's an excuse to avoid rationalizing your position

Enjoy the gym. I’ll be here, still waiting with bated breath for the intellectual rigor you keep promising.

It doesn't take much rigor your positions are based on the ideology that there is a gender identity and that that is separated from sex I don't believe that it is except for individuals suffering from gender dysphoria that's why it's gender dysphoria and not just different.

Believe it or not I've dealt with gender dysphoria myself I'm a gay man. There were times in my youth where I thought I wasn't manly enough or it wasn't gay enough or a feminine enough. I'm so glad during these times there aren't psychopaths trying to put me on a path complete castration.

 

[Xilnik]

FairPoint you did make an argument. Instead of saying you didn't make one I should have said you didn't make compelling one.

Your argument requires me to accept the ideology of gender identity no evidence at all for it, infected seems quite axiomatic.

As I understand it gender is the expression of sex so they're not the exact same thing with the deeply tied to one another it's probably why gender dysphoria is a thing.

I have read about them mostly regarding this argument and that people try and use this to make an argument for transgenderism which it doesn't work.

I would argue that intersexed people are still either male or female

Yes there are some genetic anomalies that cause a little bit of ambiguity between the sexes in a very small number of people.

I'm not sure how that makes a point

You talked about my discomfort with things how I'm bigoted toward people and this and that and you're only convincing yourself of those things I know my thoughts and feelings infinitely better than you ever could.

Because instead of rationalizing your position you make it about my discomfort with things.

It's an excuse to avoid rationalizing your position

It doesn't take much rigor your positions are based on the ideology that there is a gender identity and that that is separated from sex I don't believe that it is except for individuals suffering from gender dysphoria that's why it's gender dysphoria and not just different.

Believe it or not I've dealt with gender dysphoria myself I'm a gay man. There were times in my youth where I thought I wasn't manly enough or it wasn't gay enough or a feminine enough. I'm so glad during these times there aren't psychopaths trying to put me on a path complete castration.

I appreciate you acknowledging I did make an argument and letting me know you disagree with it. That's your right. As far as treating science as an ideology, I see that stance from a lot of people who disagree with the science. That's also your right, but it is a strange choice. You are essentially claiming some pseudo-reality is more important than truth while espousing that you know the truth and the truth is what matters. Dismissing science because you view your beliefs as “axiomatic” while defending your own assumptions with phrases like “still either male or female” and “intersex is just ambiguity” doesn’t exactly put you on firmer epistemological ground.

Your story about gender dysphoria shouldn't be diminished, but neither should the stories of countless others who chose their own paths. People are all unique and shouldn't be expected to reach the same conclusions and make the same choices. All I'm advocating for is respect for those choices in place of the derogatory rhetoric often provided by those who cannot fathom why those choices were made.

 

[Simpletruther]

If you feel they are pretending then you would likely feel like you're being lied to when you see a trans woman, but if they are passing then you dont know they are transgender because you assume they are cisgender and you dont like to be fooled by a trans person.

I don't care if I am fooled. In non personal contexts. I am sure I have been fooled many times. Big whoop.

They arent changing their sex, buying a new wardrobe, likely having to get a new job, a legal name change and losing friends/family, plus having your treatment managed by a team of Drs and psychologists that you meet with weekly or every 90 days for 3-5 years and then lifetime for your GP or endocrinologist. The recovery from bottom surgery is 90 days to 6 months. You are bedridden for 2 weeks. If your insurance refuses to cover it that surgery costs is $50K, plus unpaid work time.

This is far more than just a nose job and extra large breasts.

100 surgeries for this girl:


I have one question for you. Is she pretending to be barbie, or is she barbie?

 

[CLAX1911]

I appreciate you acknowledging I did make an argument and letting me know you disagree with it.

I'm sorry I dismissed it.

That's your right. As far as treating science as an ideology, I see that stance from a lot of people who disagree with the science.

That's only if I accept this ideology and science and the argument you gave me doesn't establish any science.

That's also your right, but it is a strange choice. You are essentially claiming some pseudo-reality is more important than truth while espousing that you know the truth and the truth is what matters.

No what I'm saying is that there's no evidence for the things you claim.

Dismissing science as “axiomatic”

I wasn't dismissing it any science hey if anything is axiomatic you haven't established any science here.

while defending your own assumptions with phrases like “still either male or female” and “intersex is just ambiguity” doesn’t exactly put you on firmer epistemological ground.

I'm not sure the point of the intersex conditions being entered into this argument talking about men who want to meet women.

Your story about gender dysphoria shouldn't be diminished, but neither should the stories of countless others who chose their own paths.

I've never dismissed anybody's story on this it's the dismissal of the claim that someone who's male is a woman that's false. You cannot be a male woman that does not function linguistically

People are all unique and shouldn't be expected to reach the same conclusions and make the same choices.

Then why have any language at all?

All I'm advocating for is respect for those choices in place of the derogatory rhetoric often provided by those who cannot fathom why those choices were made.

You think it's derogatory that a woman is an adult human female. Doesn't matter how you feel that's how the language defines it.


Further it seems like you agree with me because argument you distinguish trans women from women why is that if they're just women what's the trans for? I'll explain it it is too indicate that they are fundamentally different than women.

 

[Xilnik]

I'm sorry I dismissed it.

That's only if I accept this ideology and science and the argument you gave me doesn't establish any science.



No what I'm saying is that there's no evidence for the things you claim.

I wasn't dismissing it any science hey if anything is axiomatic you haven't established any science here.

I'm not sure the point of the intersex conditions being entered into this argument talking about men who want to meet women.

I've never dismissed anybody's story on this it's the dismissal of the claim that someone who's male is a woman that's false. You cannot be a male woman that does not function linguistically

Then why have any language at all?

You think it's derogatory that a woman is an adult human female. Doesn't matter how you feel that's how the language defines it.


Further it seems like you agree with me because argument you distinguish trans women from women why is that if they're just women what's the trans for? I'll explain it it is too indicate that they are fundamentally different than women.

There is plenty of evidence for the things I claim. Gender identity independent of anatomy is accepted in both medical and psychological communities internationally. It's hardly an ideology when it's backed by every major health organization in the world.

The discussion around intersex is important because it's a biological phenomenon that impacts people and can influence gender identity. It helps bridge the gap between biological sex and gender identity and why some people may struggle with the two. It also empirically challenges the perception that sex is binary.

To your comments about what I find derogatory: No, I think it's derogatory to label the transition from an assigned sex to an affirmed gender as delusional. A trans woman is distinguished because it is meant to convey the journey through which they chose their gender identity and their way of life. It's similar to distinguishing between adoptive and biological parents. Both deserve validity.

 

[CLAX1911]

There is plenty of evidence for the things I claim.

Show it?

Gender identity independent of anatomy is accepted in both medical and psychological communities internationally.

That's contradictory of the concept of gender dysphoria. Why would you feel discomfort is your gender identity didn't match up with your sex? How is that even possible if they aren't deeply connected

It's hardly an ideology when it's backed by every major health organization in the world.

You're insistence isn't enough.

The discussion around intersex is important because it's a biological phenomenon that impacts people and can influence gender identity.

Wait so gender identity is connected to sex?

It helps bridge the gap between biological sex and gender identity and why some people may struggle with the two.

I don't understand the struggle if gender identity and sex isn't deeply connected.

It also empirically challenges the perception that sex is binary.

How most interested people are either male or female

To your comments about what I find derogatory:

Yeah I get that a lot when I question belief system and the foundations of them.

No, I think it's derogatory to label the transition from an assigned sex to an affirmed gender as delusional.

Your misrepresentation of my words are your problem.

I pointed to Blair white and Buck Angel to show not all trans people believe they are the opposite sex

A trans woman is distinguished because it is meant to convey the journey through which they chose their gender identity and their way of life.

So this journey makes them fundamentally different from women who where born female?

It's similar to distinguishing between adoptive and biological parents. Both deserve validity.

How is it similar to that? Adoptive parents aren't insisting they gave birth to the child they adopted.

 

[dseag2]

Yet another trans thread started by a MAGA. We can count on at least one per week. Thanks for not disappointing us with your obsession!

When did you do the "reach under the skirt" and come out disappointed?

 

[Lovebug]

I've never served, just was a dependent for 9 years, so I have some insight .
Work and volunteer experiences is all I got, and there've been some rough moments, mostly trauma ER.
Long story short, I'd rather work with a competent LGTBQandwhatnot human being than a bigoted and incompetent MAGA.
Isn't that what is important?

 

[CLAX1911]

Yet another trans thread started by a MAGA. We can count on at least one per week. Thanks for not disappointing us with your obsession!

It's a social topic why is it obsessive to discuss it?

When did you do the "reach under the skirt" and come out disappointed?

 

[Ganondagan]

Pentagon pick left Guard after being reported as possible ‘insider threat’ due to tattoo​

Pete Hegseth, now the nominee to be defense secretary, was barred in 2021 from serving in support of Joe Biden’s inauguration as a National Guard member after an intelligence officer posted concerns to social media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/11/16/pete-hegseth-tattoo-national-guard/

Pete Hegseth’s Arabic tattoo stirs controversy: ‘clear symbol of Islamophobia’​

Critics say US defense secretary’s tattoo of the word kafir, meaning ‘infidel’ or ‘non-believer’ could offend Muslims

Pete Hegseth’s Arabic tattoo stirs controversy: ‘clear symbol of Islamophobia’

Critics say US defense secretary’s tattoo of the word kafir, meaning ‘infidel’ or ‘non-believer’ could offend Muslims

www.theguardian.com

Trump’s Pick to Lead U.S. Military Has Tattoos Linked to White Supremacists and Nazis​

Concerns are mounting over Trump’s pick to lead the Pentagon, Fox News host and military veteran Pete Hegseth. CBS News reports that Hegseth was one of 12 National Guard members who were removed as guards for President Biden’s 2021 inauguration over possible extremist ties. Hegseth has tattoos associated with the white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements, including what’s known as a Jerusalem cross, a symbol used by Christian nationalists.

​

Not a Single Senator Probed the Most Dangerous Part of Pete Hegseth’s Background: His Ties to White Christian Nationalism
But not a single senator from either side of the aisle probed the most dangerous part of Hegseth’s background: his support for Christian nationalism, a set of beliefs that undermine the bedrock principles of a racially and religiously pluralistic democracy.

Here are just a few examples of Hegseth’s documented Christian nationalist views that went unchallenged:

• Deus Vult: As multiple photos circulated online have demonstrated, Hegseth has two tattoos that together represent a Christian nationalist worldview that glorifies the medieval Christian Crusades against Muslims and that are popular among White supremacist and Christian nationalist groups. The tattoos consist of a constellation of five Jerusalem crosses on his chest, which sit adjacent to a images of a sword crowned by the Latin phrase “Deus Vult” (“God wills it”) on the inside of his right arm.
• As the Washington Post and others have documented, that Latin slogan has been used by extremists “including the man who opened fire on two New Zealand mosques in 2019—killing 49 Muslims—and White nationalists, such as some of those who marched in Charlottesville in 2017. And it appeared on clothing and on at least one flag carried by rioters on Jan. 6.”Hegseth himself has identified Deus Vult as a “battle cry” of the crusades. Following the insurrection, a National Guard security official warned in an email to the D.C. National Guard commander that Hegseth, who was at the time serving in a unit called up to provide security for Biden’s inauguration, could be an “insider threat.” Concerned, the commander told Hegseth he did not need to report for the assignment. Soon after that event, Hegseth left the military, summarizing his exit this way: “So, I resigned. On Jan. 20, 2021, I drafted the letter. F*** Biden anyway.”

Not a Single Senator Probed the Most Dangerous Part of Pete Hegseth's Background: His Ties to White Christian Nationalism

It’s hard to find strong enough adjectives to describe the unmitigated disaster the senate hearing on Pete Hegseth truly was. Even the few Republicans who had expressed previous concerns about his nomination for Secretary of Defense handled him with kid gloves. There were some strong challenges b

religiondispatches.org

Hegseth is a White Christian Nationalist. He wears his racism proudly.

Sec of Defence Hegseth is a member of a Tennessee evangelical church. He is a conservative Christian, good for him. We need more such men in politics, and in general.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-6/

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

 

[Xilnik]

Show it?

That's contradictory of the concept of gender dysphoria. Why would you feel discomfort is your gender identity didn't match up with your sex? How is that even possible if they aren't deeply connected

You're insistence isn't enough.

Wait so gender identity is connected to sex?

I don't understand the struggle if gender identity and sex isn't deeply connected.

How most interested people are either male or female

Yeah I get that a lot when I question belief system and the foundations of them.

Your misrepresentation of my words are your problem.

I pointed to Blair white and Buck Angel to show not all trans people believe they are the opposite sex

So this journey makes them fundamentally different from women who where born female?

How is it similar to that? Adoptive parents aren't insisting they gave birth to the child they adopted.

Sex and gender can be connected without it being a contradiction; they're connected but not interchangeable. They influence each other, but they can also diverge which is what leads to gender dysphoria. It's not my "insistence" that there's evidence of gender identity being independent of biological sex. There are numerous psychological and neurological studies, international health recommendations, and decades of medical care developed through research to provide empirical data regarding gender identity vs biological sex.

As to people born with intersex traits, most are assigned male or female at birth, but that’s often based on incomplete or ambiguous traits. That assignment highlights how complex biological sex can be.

Blair White and Buck Angel are entitled to their views, but that doesn't mean we should disregard the experiences of millions of people who transitioned and identify with a gender opposite their biological sex. White and Angel merely provide a different point of view and show that everyone's path is different. Those differences should be respected.

And in what way did I misrepresent your words? You said men who think they're women are delusional, did you not? Ergo, you believe men who transition to identifying as women are delusional. Trans women aren’t “male women.” They’re women. Just as adoptive parents didn’t give birth but still fully embrace parenthood, trans women may not share the same biological trajectory but still fully embrace womanhood. You’re treating difference as disqualification. I’m simply naming it as difference while giving it its due respect.

 

[CLAX1911]

Sex and gender can be connected without it being a contradiction;

Seems like they are deeply connected

they're connected but not interchangeable.

An argument against something I never claimed.

They influence each other, but they can also diverge which is what leads to gender dysphoria.

Divergence causing dysphoria seems to indicate the two are very intertwined.

It's not my "insistence" that there's evidence of gender identity being independent of biological sex.

Again an argument against a point i didn't make.

There are numerous psychological and neurological studies, international health recommendations, and decades of medical care developed through research to provide empirical data regarding gender identity vs biological sex.

Your point?

As to people born with intersex traits, most are assigned male or female at birth,

Nobody is assigned sex at birth. It's observed often times before birth. It's never assigned.

but that’s often based on incomplete or ambiguous traits.

No it's based on genitals.

That assignment highlights how complex biological sex can be.

There is no assignment. It's observed.

Blair White and Buck Angel are entitled to their views,

I'm betting your going to completely miss the point I was making.

but that doesn't mean we should disregard the experiences of millions of people who transitioned and identify with a gender opposite their biological sex.

I'm not that's not even close to what I suggested.

White and Angel merely provide a different point of view and show that everyone's path is different. Those differences should be respected.

They acknowledge their sex and don't lie about it.

And in what way did I misrepresent your words?

Every single opportunity you get. I've pointed it out every time you did it

You said men who think they're women are delusional,

They absolutely are.

did you not?

Show how they aren't.

Ergo, you believe men who transition to identifying as women are delusional.

No men who believe they are women are delusional.

I didn't say the stupid shit you typed.

Trans women aren’t “male women.”

Yeah they are male men. They can't be women.

They’re women.

Then why can't cis women be trans women?

Just as adoptive parents didn’t give birth but still fully embrace parenthood,

I'm suggesting adoptive parents that insist they are biological parents are delusional

trans women may not share the same biological trajectory but still fully embrace womanhood.

How, they can't be women. You have to be born female in order to be a woman. It's misogynistic to think men can just be women because they feel a certain way.

You’re treating difference as disqualification.

Yeah being male disqualifies you from every being a woman. Women are exclusively female.

I’m simply naming it as difference while giving it its due respect.

You're expressing delusion. People born male can never experience womanhood. There is absolutely nothing science based about your claim.

 

[CLAX1911]

Sex and gender can be connected without it being a contradiction; they're connected but not interchangeable. They influence each other, but they can also diverge which is what leads to gender dysphoria. It's not my "insistence" that there's evidence of gender identity being independent of biological sex. There are numerous psychological and neurological studies, international health recommendations, and decades of medical care developed through research to provide empirical data regarding gender identity vs biological sex.

As to people born with intersex traits, most are assigned male or female at birth, but that’s often based on incomplete or ambiguous traits. That assignment highlights how complex biological sex can be.

Blair White and Buck Angel are entitled to their views, but that doesn't mean we should disregard the experiences of millions of people who transitioned and identify with a gender opposite their biological sex. White and Angel merely provide a different point of view and show that everyone's path is different. Those differences should be respected.

And in what way did I misrepresent your words? You said men who think they're women are delusional, did you not? Ergo, you believe men who transition to identifying as women are delusional. Trans women aren’t “male women.” They’re women. Just as adoptive parents didn’t give birth but still fully embrace parenthood, trans women may not share the same biological trajectory but still fully embrace womanhood. You’re treating difference as disqualification. I’m simply naming it as difference while giving it its due respect.

This source suggests sex is determined at conception so it can't be assigned at birth.

When and How Your Baby’s Sex Is Determined in the Womb

www.whattoexpect.com

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Why would a gay man support a party out for his destruction?

The same party that’s for Palestine, that would push him off the roof for being gay.

 

[CLAX1911]

The same party that’s for Palestine, that would push him off the roof for being gay.

It's just demographics are destiny.

I could make the argument that it's the Democrats who want to suspend my right to keep and bear arms and because of this they want anyone who bashes me to have the upper hand so that I can't defend myself lethal Force.

But you did bring up the love affair the left has with Islam and it's way worse than Western Christianity when it comes to gay rights.

 

[anatta]

Kalama Sutta: The Buddha's Charter of Free Inquiry

www.accesstoinsight.org

Therefore, did we say, Kalamas, what was said thus, 'Come Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, "The monk is our teacher."

Kalamas, when you yourselves know: "These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill," abandon them.'

 

[Linuxcooldude]

It's just demographics are destiny.

I could make the argument that it's the Democrats who want to suspend my right to keep and bear arms and because of this they want anyone who bashes me to have the upper hand so that I can't defend myself lethal Force.

But you did bring up the love affair the left has with Islam and it's way worse than Western Christianity when it comes to gay rights.

Something that’s hard to understand. Palestinians have one of the worst record for human rights, women and gays. But the left, perhaps mostly the far left, want to support them.

While I try to stop short of blaming Islam, the culture around it, isn’t always the best.

 

[Questerr]

Maybe if you have no clue what common sense is you don't tell me what something is according to common Sense when really you mean perspective.

Then what does "common sense" mean? Can you give a logically consistent definition?

 

[Questerr]

Well, Europe has certainly backtracked on Trans-gender care for minors based on studies too.

No they haven't. Governments produced propaganda and then used that propaganda as justification.

 

[CLAX1911]

Then what does "common sense" mean?

You were the one using it as an explanation that's your burden.

Can you give a logically consistent definition?

I wasn't using it as an explanation. I don't do that because of this conundrum you're having right now.

 

[CLAX1911]

No they haven't. Governments produced propaganda and then used that propaganda as justification.

What propaganda specifically?

 

[Questerr]

I understand that but a woman can't be a trans woman because in order to be trans woman you have to be a man.

That's the only people that can be trans women.

So you have to be born female in order to be able to trans woman? Why call them trans why not just call them woman.

When you say determined what do you mean you mean when it's observed yeah it's a determined by anatomy they don't do a genetic test when they see a baby born with a penis they know it's male.

No medical science can't figure out how to give functional testicles to a woman or functional ovaries to a man.

Women can be transwomen and no transwoman can be a man.

You have to be a woman to be a transwoman. Why do you keep lying and conflating sex and gender?

Wait so any female without functional ovaries isn't a woman?

 

[Xilnik]

Seems like they are deeply connected

An argument against something I never claimed.

It wasn't an argument against anything. It was a clarifying elaboration on your oversimplification of "Seems like they are deeply connected" statements.

Divergence causing dysphoria seems to indicate the two are very intertwined.

Related, but independent.

Again an argument against a point i didn't make.

Your point?

Did you forget that you said I hadn't provided any evidence that gender identity is independent of biological sex?
You’re mistaking correlation for contradiction. They're related, yes. Connected, yes. Equivalent, no.

Nobody is assigned sex at birth. It's observed often times before birth. It's never assigned.

Observed sex is how sex is assigned, but it is not the end of the story. A doctor cannot simply observe DNA without doing a more in-depth analysis, and that observed sex may be reassessed as a result.

No it's based on genitals.

That's not at all what's it's based on... That’s an oversimplification. See above for why it doesn’t hold up.

There is no assignment. It's observed.

Repeating this doesn't change how it's actually classified.

I'm betting your going to completely miss the point I was making.

I'm not that's not even close to what I suggested.

Communicate more effectively. Half the time, your voice to text becomes word soup.

They acknowledge their sex and don't lie about it.

Most trans people do acknowledge their assigned sex. That’s why they transition. They’re living in alignment with their identity, not your definition

Every single opportunity you get. I've pointed it out every time you did it

Okay... I don't think you're very good at explaining where I misrepresented what you say. Most of what I've seen you argue becomes circular reasoning.

They absolutely are.

No, that's not how gender identity works. Gender identity is not a delusion.

Show how they aren't.

Already explained that above. It's based on evidence within the scientific and medical community regarding gender identity.

No men who believe they are women are delusional.

I didn't say the stupid shit you typed.

No, men who identify as women, affirm themselves as, and transition to being women are not delusional. I expanded on what you said and what it means. To use your own words, that you can't understand that is not my problem.

Yeah they are male men. They can't be women.

Biologically, no. As their gender identity, yes they can.

Then why can't cis women be trans women?

Why can't a square be a rectangle? ... The word “cis” means their gender identity matches their assigned sex. That's why.

I'm suggesting adoptive parents that insist they are biological parents are delusional

Strawman argument. Reread my post. I never said anything about adoptive parents saying they are biological parents. I said they embrace being parents in the same way a transgender woman or transgender man embraces being a woman or man respectively.

How, they can't be women. You have to be born female in order to be a woman. It's misogynistic to think men can just be women because they feel a certain way.

Yeah being male disqualifies you from every being a woman. Women are exclusively female.

You're expressing delusion. People born male can never experience womanhood. There is absolutely nothing science based about your claim.

What’s misogynistic is reducing womanhood to reproductive anatomy and ignoring the lived experiences of trans women. You’re not defending women; you're degrading them. There is plenty of science surrounding my claim, but you choose to ignore it even though you acknowledge it exists. That is very dogmatic of you.