Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term[W:223]

[head of joaquin]

That had nothing to do with Obama as it sure as hell didn't have anything to do with his " stimulus".
As youv'e just stated jobs bottomed out and started to rise before his "stimulus" was enacted which refutes the nonsense that the stimulus brought us back from the precipice not mention there were no legitimate economist at the time saying we were headed for a depression.

Denying historical reality when it involves successful Democratic economic policy: the last bastion of another conservative losing another argument.

How'd that Bush Meltdown working out for you again - Oh yeah, don't blame Bush for it.

 

[head of joaquin]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

You opinion noted but what has been proven here is that your opinion is a lie. Bush didn't create the recession and Obama hasn't brought us out of it. The numbers simply prove you to be wrong. Europe went on an austerity kick with an economy totally dependent on the govt. The results then were predictable. That seems to be the economy you want here, massive dependence on the govt. Thank God our Founders didn't think as you do.

Jesus man, when was the Bush recession? You can say it, I know you can.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Pssst: unemployment has been falling for three straight years.

Jesus man, focus.

Hey, I loved how you worked in the vacation meme -- what perfect teabaggery!

Gee, imagine that 6.2 trillion added to the debt and we have 177,000 fewer unemployed than we had when Obama took office. That your idea of a success? We still are two million fewer people employed today than when the recession began. Does that mean population hasn't increased, people aren't turning 16?

Not sure what it is about liberalism that makes fools out of good people, but I sure would like to find out what it is

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Jesus man, when was the Bush recession? You can say it, I know you can.

You can blame Bush until hell freezes over and nothing will change the Obama recovery or lack of it. We are more than 4 years after the end of that recession and the lagging indicator is going on five years of terrible job creation and growth

 

[Fenton]

Denying historical reality when it involves successful Democratic economic policy: the last bastion of another conservative losing another argument.

How'd that Bush Meltdown working
out for you again - Oh yeah, don't blame Bush for it.

Please prpvide the name of the economist that said in 2008 we were heading over the precipice if not for a 800 billion Stimulus.

Oh yea, Clintons loading up the GSEs with corrupt Democrats plus his lowering of the GSEs Capital Requirements is NOT the fault of BUSH.

Oh but youv'e whole heartedly bought into the False Narrative of Redlining.

How desperately simple of you.

 

[head of joaquin]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Gee, imagine that 6.2 trillion added to the debt and we have 177,000 fewer unemployed than we had when Obama took office. That your idea of a success? We still are two million fewer people employed today than when the recession began. Does that mean population hasn't increased, people aren't turning 16?

Not sure what it is about liberalism that makes fools out of good people, but I sure would like to find out what it is

So admit you're wrong about unemployment but now are misrepresenting a different set of facts.

Keep it up and somebody might nominate you tea partier of the year.

 

[head of joaquin]

Please prpvide the name of the economist that said in 2008 we were heading over the precipice if not for a 800 billion Stimulus.

Oh yea, Clintons loading up the GSEs with corrupt Democrats plus his lowering of the GSEs Capital Requirements is NOT the fault of BUSH.

Oh but youv'e whole heartedly bought into the False Narrative of Redlining.

How desperately simple of you.

I nominate this for the nonsequitur of the month award.

I guess if you can't argue the fact, conservatives can always play twenty irrelevant questions.

 

[head of joaquin]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

You can blame Bush until hell freezes over and nothing will change the Obama recovery or lack of it. We are more than 4 years after the end of that recession and the lagging indicator is going on five years of terrible job creation and growth

You can deny basic economic theory that explains recessions and how to manage them all you want and . . . it will confirm that you are a conservative!

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

So admit you're wrong about unemployment but now are misrepresenting a different set of facts.

Keep it up and somebody might nominate you tea partier of the year.

Sorry, would love to be wrong but the employment and unemployment issue is a major failure of Obama. You really are seeking attention because actual results have no place in your world. Do you have any idea what a discouraged worker does to the unemployment numbers? Your other friends from the left sure don't so let me help you make those unemployment numbers look even better. Get more and more unemployed people to become discouraged and drop off the roles of the unemployed. You ought to be able to get the unemployment rate down to 5%

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

You can deny basic economic theory that explains recessions and how to manage them all you want and . . . it will confirm that you are a conservative!

Apparently results and data have no place in the liberal mind, carry on. You have shown no ability to understand basic data let alone economic theory.

 

[Fenton]

You cannot spend Billions into the economy without creating jobs in
service of the increased demand. Stimuluses work regardless of how it's spent. Buy bails of hay with it and see farm jobs skyrocket, and then those workers spend the dough in retail and for housing, creating tons of jobs indirectly. Nothing complicated about it. The problem is it's temporary and creates jobs only as long as it's being spent, which they know too. However, business is more reactionary than strategic, and instead of over cutting while the economy tanks, it tend to over invest when things are back on the mend. So it's a momentum shifter, which is scaled to how bad things are getting. Bush 43's mini stimulus thus was not enough, and it was corrected under Obama, and scaled about right, since the turnaround was nearly immediate.

First " Stimulus" is money removed and then placed back into the Economy arbitrarily ( in Obama's economy ) and was a desperate and foolish attempt to reinvigorate fhe economy.

As you can see, it didn't work.

You need to educate yourself with respect to monetary policy.

Bush towards the end of his Presidency was attempting to deal with the effects of the Democrat mandated Sub-Prime Collapse.

He at least knew that Stimulus was a poor decision.

 

[head of joaquin]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Sorry, would love to be wrong but the employment and unemployment issue is a major failure of Obama. You really are seeking attention because actual results have no place in your world. Do you have any idea what a discouraged worker does to the unemployment numbers? Your other friends from the left sure don't so let me help you make those unemployment numbers look even better. Get more and more unemployed people to become discouraged and drop off the roles of the unemployed. You ought to be able to get the unemployment rate down to 5%

Pssst: you complained that Obama's policies didn't bring down the lagging indicator of unemployment. They have for the past 3 years.

NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

 

[head of joaquin]

First " Stimulus" is money removed and then placed back into the Economy arbitrarily ( in Obama's economy ) and was a desperate and foolish attempt to reinvigorate fhe economy.

As you can see, it didn't work.

You need to educate yourself with respect to monetary policy.

Bush towards the end of his Presidency was attempting to deal with the effects of the Democrat mandated Sub-Prime Collapse.

He at least knew that Stimulus was a poor decision.

I love this meme. Who deregulated the financial industry? Who cut taxes on the rich? I know you can say it.

 

[Fenton]

I nominate this
for the nonsequitur of the month award.

I guess if you can't argue the fact, conservatives can always play twenty irrelevant questions.

Go ahead and nominate it. Lets see you and two other left wing posters will give it a vote, and your decision will be as irrelevent as ever.

Youv'e ( or the other two posters ) have never been able to argue against the data that shows Bush and the Republicans were the ONLY ones who actually tried to get a handle on the growing corrupt Democrat run GSEs effectively, instead relying on subjective talking points to make your case.

 

[head of joaquin]

Go ahead and nominate it. Lets see you and two other left wing posters will give it a vote, and your decision will be as irrelevent as ever.

Youv'e ( or the other two posters ) have never been able to argue against the data that shows Bush and the Republicans were the ONLY ones who actually tried to get a handle on the growing corrupt Democrat run GSEs effectively, instead relying on subjective talking points to make your case.

Well, now I nominate this post as the nonsequitur of the month. I'm sort of betting your next rant will even out do this.

 

[Fenton]

I love this meme. Who deregulated the financial
industry? Who cut taxes on the rich? I know you can say it.

Clinton signed the Grajm-Leach Act, and the Commodities Futures Modernisation Act, but what truly set off the buying up and securitizing of massive amounts ofbcrap loans was his 1995 National Home Owners Strategy.

It gave HUD explicit Control over the GSEs to offer up a increasing amount of crap loans. Then he nominated people like Franklin Raines, Democrat Criminal and he lowered the Capital Requirements on loans purchased by the GSEs from 10% to 3%.

On top of that he nominated Andrew Cuomo as the Secretary of HUD, who seriously pushed the buying and securitizing by Fannie and Freddie of junk loans into high Gear.

Remember Janet Reno threatening banks ? You know when she wasn't giving the order to burn alive nearly a hundred Americans, men women and Children. I do.

Remember Fannie turning THE first crap loan into a security in 1997 ? I do.

You guys gave Cuomo a Governor-ship for his troubles.....Lol !!!

Hey answer me this....

If people WERE being denied loans based on the color of their skin, why did Clinton lower the standards to fight supposed " discrimination " ?

 

[head of joaquin]

Clinton signed the Grajm-Leach Act, and the Commodities Futures Modernisation Act, but what truly set off the buying up and securitizing of massive amounts ofbcrap loans was his 1995 National Home Owners Strategy.

So Clinton was wrong in signing this conservative Republican piece of legislation, is that what you're saying? Come on, spit it out. I love to see conservatives tied into knots

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Pssst: you complained that Obama's policies didn't bring down the lagging indicator of unemployment. They have for the past 3 years.

NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

So you happy with the Obama numbers? You really think that 14.3% unemployment is a good number?

 

[head of joaquin]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

So you happy with the Obama numbers? You really think that 14.3% unemployment is a good number?

Since you're losing the argument, you've had to change the subject I see. Typical. And give fake numbers.

I'm happy he got some of his agenda against an obstructionist knownothing tea party contingent in the house, that all put destroyed the economy. I'd be happier if Americans would vote out the knownothing losers in the GOP who are preventing us from economic growth.

You have to love how conservatives sling their memes and expect nobody to notice.

 

[Sisyphus]

First " Stimulus" is money removed and then placed back into the Economy arbitrarily ( in Obama's economy ) and was a desperate and foolish attempt to reinvigorate fhe economy.

As you can see, it didn't work.

You need to educate yourself with respect to monetary policy.

Bush towards the end of his Presidency was attempting to deal with the effects of the Democrat mandated Sub-Prime Collapse.

He at least knew that Stimulus was a poor decision.

Not really, since we tax progressively. The bulk of revenue comes from those whose incomes exceed their spending needs. So in effect, money which tend to be hoarded is then spent into the economy and flows through it immediately, darn near. And that's worst case. When it's deficit money (borrowed) it's pumping in money that takes from no one.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Since you're losing the argument, you've had to change the subject I see. Typical. And give fake numbers.

I'm happy he got some of his agenda against an obstructionist knownothing tea party contingent in the house, that all put destroyed the economy. I'd be happier if Americans would vote out the knownothing losers in the GOP who are preventing us from economic growth.

You have to love how conservatives sling their memes and expect nobody to notice.

If they were fake numbers you couldn't verify them at BLS.gov. You really don't understand leadership at all, do you? I feel bad that we have people like you so out of touch with reality. You call everyone else partisan but you

 

[head of joaquin]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

If they were fake numbers you couldn't verify them at BLS.gov. You really don't understand leadership at all, do you? I feel bad that we have people like you so out of touch with reality. You call everyone else partisan but you

Repeating weirdo rightwing websites and pretending the figures come from the BLS is one of the many rightwing customs I find endearing.

NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Repeating weirdo rightwing websites and pretending the figures come from the BLS is one of the many rightwing customs I find endearing.

NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

the Meme parrot squawk again.

 

[Jack Hays]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Repeating weirdo rightwing websites and pretending the figures come from the BLS is one of the many rightwing customs I find endearing.

NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

Sadly for you, the numbers really are verifiable via BLS.eace

 

[Conservative]

Re: Americans’ wages down during Obama’s term

Repeating weirdo rightwing websites and pretending the figures come from the BLS is one of the many rightwing customs I find endearing.

NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

LOL, so now the Bureau of Labor Statistics is a Rightwing website? I am done here, you are hopeless and deserve Obamanomics probably needing it more than others