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America says "Pass This Bill!"

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America also said.... "Elect this moronic socialist." and we can all see how that's turned out. I'll stick with my own opinion, which is.... "This bill should never see the light of day."
 
The Dems overwhelmingly support it and the Rep's and Independants do not according to that graph.

I'm going to guess the large percentage of undecided are the truely honest ones saying that we really have no idea what is being asked to be passed.
 
I would love to see the sample backing up that push poll. Let me guess, they have the d/r/i ratio at 55/20/25?
 
America also said.... "Elect this moronic socialist." and we can all see how that's turned out. I'll stick with my own opinion, which is.... "This bill should never see the light of day."

As I was driving home today I saw a aging hippy-chick driving an expensive SUV with several bumper stickers on them. The real irony was there was an Obama sticker right next to one that said "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STUPIDITY OF PEOPLE ACTING IN A LARGE GROUP"
 
I would love to see the sample backing up that push poll. Let me guess, they have the d/r/i ratio at 55/20/25?

the many who think the few ought to pay more taxes so the many can get what they want without cost obviously support it

I bet if we polled 1000000 people who have smoking related cancer and asked them would they support killing 1000 people who never smoked if that would cure all of their cancer I bet the support would be close to 95% or more

BFD
 
52% is "America"?

It's a majority. I thought the majority was supposed to rule? Or was it the 36% majority who opposes it?

I would love to see the sample backing up that push poll. Let me guess, they have the d/r/i ratio at 55/20/25?

Did you even notice the source of the poll?
 

I saw a Hummer with a bumper sticker that said "Drill Baby Drill". First, who puts a bumper sticker on a ****ing Hummer? Second, what a dick.
 
It's a majority. I thought the majority was supposed to rule? Or was it the 36% majority who opposes it?
What if I got 51% of American's to agree that people over the age of 65 are to much of a burden on society and need to be gassed? We live in a republic (or used too... it's more of an oligarchy now) not a democracy.
 
The Dems overwhelmingly support it and the Rep's and Independants do not according to that graph.

I'm going to guess the large percentage of undecided are the truely honest ones saying that we really have no idea what is being asked to be passed.
The dems in congress dont even 'overwhelmingly' support it.
 
It's a majority. I thought the majority was supposed to rule? Or was it the 36% majority who opposes it?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

It is for very good reason that this nation is not based on pure democracy. It is a representative republic, with a system of balanced powers, of checks and balances, intended to best represent the will of the people, while protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
 
America also said.... "Elect this moronic socialist." and we can all see how that's turned out. I'll stick with my own opinion, which is.... "This bill should never see the light of day."

It would help if you knew what socialism was before you used the term.

I could replace socialist with poliwog in your sentence and it makes the same amount of sense.

Obama is not a Socialist. Go to Europe to see Socialists.
 
America also said.... "Elect this moronic socialist." and we can all see how that's turned out. I'll stick with my own opinion, which is.... "This bill should never see the light of day."

America wanted to move promptly beyond the cluster-**** that was the Bush era, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.

I saw this coming though. Everyone dove right into the waiting hands of the next incompetent.
 
America wanted to move promptly beyond the cluster-**** that was the Bush era, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.

I saw this coming though. Everyone dove right into the waiting hands of the next incompetent.

It's not necessarily that Obama is incompetent, although he made some bad choices, like not raising the debt ceiling when the Dems controlled Congress, it's more of a function of an economy coming out of deleveraging. As much as the partisan hack jobs here would like to pretend otherwise, there frankly has never been a country in world history that bounced back quickly from a financial crisis. On average it takes about 6 years, sometimes longer. Furthermore, the more integrated a country is, the more damage it takes. China for example during the Asian Financial Crisis weathered it well because its integration was far less and it had huge reserves to blunt the damage. The US, on the other hand was far more integrated and didn't have the capacity to do what China did.

Lord T made a good observation a while back that no matter who won the 2008 election, they'd be a 1 term president simply because the conditions of their presidency would be so bad from the start. You never see a partisan hack job discuss this because it takes a certain level of education they simply don't have and it takes a level of honesty they will never obtain. Zyplin is no fan of Obama. Do we see him pushing the same idiotic partisan vomit like people in this thread? No. Because he understands it's far more complex.

Hack jobs here like to pretend all recessions are the same, that one size fits all policy will work, aka cut taxes. You are hack job for a reason: You never bother to learn anything new, and you always gravitate towards the "easy" explanation. We have people here calling someone who was willing to take a loss on corporate equity holdings just to get out as fast as possible. A president wanting to get out of direct corporate holdings and control is not a socialist. Neither is a president who's healthcare bill mandates people get private insurance from private insurers, for private healthcare via private doctors at private hospitals. That's a lot of private providers to me. But it's apparently "socialism" to them.

Hacks make up whatever "Facts" they want to bolster their weak beliefs.
 

I wouldn't say that's Irony so much as it is truth in advertising.


It would help if you knew what socialism was before you used the term.

I could replace socialist with poliwog in your sentence and it makes the same amount of sense.

Obama is not a Socialist. Go to Europe to see Socialists.

Obama IS a Socialist. He's also a traitor, a piece of ****, and a waste of flesh and oxygen. His entire view for this country is contrary to the principles upon which it was founded. I can say that because MY family was HERE when this country was founded. I would suggest that they would have the same reaction to him that they had to a Tory living in Essex, CT after the Revolution.... they dragged THAT man out of his home and hung him in the middle of the night.

As for going to Europe.... No thanks. I don't need to spend my time in a pig's wallow to know that it's dirty and reeks of ****.


America wanted to move promptly beyond the cluster-**** that was the Bush era, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.

I saw this coming though. Everyone dove right into the waiting hands of the next incompetent.

We haven't had a non-incompetent in that office since the days of Andrew Jackson. There hasn't been even a decent POTUS in my lifetime (I'm 37). A lot of that is because the American voters have no more independence or intelligence than a herd of zombies, marching to the polling places on a yearly basis.
 
Obama IS a Socialist.

Wrong.

He's also a traitor

How?

a piece of ****, and a waste of flesh and oxygen.

Well if he is, then he's not the only one

TrHis entire view for this country is contrary to the principles upon which it was founded.

Umm... passing a jobs bill is againstthe principles upon which the country was founded upon?

I can say that because MY family was HERE when this country was founded.

Well how fab for you, my family may have been present while Henry the 8th took a ****, but that doesn't qualify me on Tudor History.

I would suggest that they would have the same reaction to him that they had to a Tory living in Essex, CT after the Revolution.... they dragged THAT man out of his home and hung him in the middle of the night.

Well I can't imagine people back then would have been very pleased about a black man in power, so yeah... I guess you're right they may very well have hanged him.

As for going to Europe.... No thanks. I don't need to spend my time in a pig's wallow to know that it's dirty and reeks of ****.

Well that's funny I didn't realise continents had an odor.


You seem to have some issues that need to be resolved. I would reccomend a good therapist.
 
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Does America know what is in this bill? I don't. For example when Obama yells that this will allow us to hire teachers and policemen, how many if any of those hires will happen in my town or yours? Does the bill tell us how that money will be divided between states and towns. Same with all the other spending elements. Does the money go disproportionately to Nevada because that is where Reid lives or does each state get their fair share based on population?
 
Did you even notice the source of the poll?

I saw the source and immediately questioned its validity. I am having a difficult time finding the actual poll stats, all I find are AP references to this poll.
 
It would help if you knew what socialism was before you used the term.

I could replace socialist with poliwog in your sentence and it makes the same amount of sense.

Obama is not a Socialist. Go to Europe to see Socialists.

BO is a fascist. Calling him a socialist is way too kind.
 
It's a majority. I thought the majority was supposed to rule? Or was it the 36% majority who opposes it?
Did you even notice the source of the poll?

Yes, majority rules in a manner of speaking but not when it comes to blatantly taking money from one person who earned it and giving it to another. That is usually called theft.
 
Does anyone actually know what's IN this bill yet?

WILL anyone bother to find out before deciding whether to support it or not?


:roll:
 
What if I got 51% of American's to agree that people over the age of 65 are to much of a burden on society and need to be gassed? We live in a republic (or used too... it's more of an oligarchy now) not a democracy.

Red herring. The poll shows a clear advantage in favor of the plan vs. against it.


Red herring.


Here it is.

I saw the source and immediately questioned its validity. I am having a difficult time finding the actual poll stats, all I find are AP references to this poll.

Are you saying it's a fake? Besides, I found a similar result in a different poll.
 
You have pretty low standards if you consider a slim majority as speaking for America.

Dude, seriously, that's just lame. Look at the favorable-unfavorable split; THAT'S the number you want to focus on.
 
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