No...Republicans don't benefit either. But one thing is for sure...the Republicans know how to make decisions. They would, at least, decide to do something instead of sticking our troops heads in the sand.
Ahhh...now I know why your posts in this thread are ridiculous...you don't think.
Tell me...if we remove all the troops and leave the drones...do you think the drones will service themselves?
Pathetic lack of reasoning skill, dude.
Of course we wilneed a drone base to launch and service them. soldiers will stay on the base not among the population to act as targets.
btw, before you start saying we lost in Iraq, you should check with Obama...he might have a dispute with your assessment.
Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Hardly sounds like the words of a President who was defeated, don't you think?
No...Republicans don't benefit either. But one thing is for sure...the Republicans know how to make decisions. They would, at least, decide to do something instead of sticking our troops heads in the sand.
We "won" in Iraq the same way we won in Vietnam......by LEAVING.
We won in Iraq by deposing a (twice) genocidal dictator who was selling food-for-oil and in violation of 17 UNSCRs, and instituting a fledgling democracy (which still survives today). That's not the same as Vietnam.
Where were our heads when we were looking for WMD's in Iraq?
And after 4000 American deaths, 20,000 wounded and a trillion dollars spent, Iraq is run by Iranian sympathizers
We "won" in Iraq the same way we won in Vietnam......by LEAVING. That is the only way to win stupid wars like those. It is pathetic to kill and maim more of our soldiers for nothing.
It was a glorious victory for sanity the day we left Saigon and Bagdad.
They definately are quick to make decisions. Very bad and constly one's but I guess being the "decider" is more important than being the thinker.
Wow... Uh... I honestly can't think of anything...
Uhh.. Our country will probably win the super bowl this year?
You're so fundamentalist that I find it amusing. Assuming we "lock down" afghanistan and completely deny it to the terrorists. What prevents them from just moving to the next poor country we're not? The only end game to your solution is holding every country simultaneously.
You remember very poorly. How many cities can sustain 50-70 billion dollars worth of damage and survive?What city has burned? I remember two buildings going down, I don't remember an entire city burning.
Thank you for your advice.Try not to be melodramatic.
I will not convince you that your words betray the truth. Let's just part as friends.This would be great if you would actually put words into their proper context and meaning before disagreeing to the point of exaggerated blabber. It would make explaining history a lot easier. I don't know why I should bother anymore.
Defeatists will always be defeated. Afghanistan is not so important. If the Taliban and Al qaeda were not there then we would have no reason to be there either. We fight the enemy where he is. You should know that.I'm glad you've finally made it obvious that "pride" and "winning" is far more important to you than american lives, and the tangible benefits to our society.
There is nothing I can say to this that I haven't already said. You believe afghanistan is so important that it requires the constant and ongoing shedding of american blood, as to not lose face. I take solace in the fact that the future will turn out as I have suggested, and not as you desire. We're leaving afghanistan, and that s***hole can burn to the ground for all I care. We have far more important things in america to worry about.
If we are not prepared to stay there as long as it takes to deny the Taliban and Al qaeda a safe haven then we shall lose and they shall win.Stay there forever? Is that sarcastic or are you part of the international arms industry?
Enlighten me please.Do you know what a guerilla war is?*
We should go where are enemy is. We should kill him and break his things until he stops waging war against us. Did you think this was going to be easy?And on the whole denying safe havens to AQ part.
I suppose you've never heard of Pakistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen...
International Arms Trade is an interesting world. The profits that would be made from a war of forever out of international Govt's Contracts would be astronomical.
You have to wonder what there is to win in a Desert?
One must match the goals to our needs. Our goal should be to deny safe haven to terrorists. I do not know the right troop levels to accomplish that. But the professionals do.What do you want to do? Nuke 'em? The only way to "win" in Vietnam or Afghanistan was to kill everyone there. Is that your point?
Neither country is EVER going to be our puppet as long as any are alive to pick up a gun.
Do you love your country so little that you want her to be safe for only a little while? Why do you put a time limit on the security of the nation?It's sad, but understandable that you hold this view, because your job as a contractor benefits directly from this situation. For the rest of us who can view the situation objectively, it's madness.
It's people like you that are the reason we're in this situation in the first place. War is a business, and business is goooood.
I think your statements about war are shallow and vapid. We must match our goals to our needs. We only have trouble when we lose sight of why we are there.At least you didn't attempt to give a way we could have won in Vietnam short of nuking them. You would have looked even more foolish.
We lost in Vietnam and Iraq the minute we sent troops there. We went to Afghanistan to get Bin Laden and Alqeada..... mission accomplished...time to go home.
We can leave the drones there though. Just the targets for the Taliban need to leave.
How do you know that?Regardless of the cause for it, the war in afghanistan is NOT going well for us.
How do you know that?
Is Afghanistan a safe haven? Is there any price we should pay for safety?
What is a Truther?I think before one engages on Afghanistan, one should ask the person if they are a Truther.
What is a Truther?
We abandoned Vietnam and they folded. Nothing near that has happened in Iraq. We still have troops there, you know.
btw, I don't think it was a glorious day for the South Vietnamese we left to the actions and punishments of the North.
I think your statements about war are shallow and vapid. We must match our goals to our needs. We only have trouble when we lose sight of why we are there.
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