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Ambassador tells of quid-pro-quo

PIPEWRENCH said:
The impeachment. First we have the parody. Now we have the secret investigation that 1/2 of our elected congress is not privy to. This is reminding me of the underhanded governing of a Stalin, Hitler, or Saddam regime.
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1/2 of the congress isn't privy to? You are just making **** up at this point. Republicans are on the committees doing the investigation and I've seen no reporting that they have been withheld information or testimony or the chance to ask questions. Stop making stuff up. Just cause Trump is a liar doesn't mean that all of his followers have to drop everything and follow suit.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Did you investigate the diamond prosecutors case that caused people to protest? Prosecutors is Shokin’s office were caught with diamonds and cash. Shokin blocked the case and gave them back their loot. They were his partners. The assistant prosecutor resigned in disgust. That’s the “good guy” Trump was talking about.


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That’s an internal Ukraine issue that doesn’t involve the US. However, since you brought the subject up, it would have been a whole lot more appropriate for Biden to have suggested such an investigation rather than demanding summary termination of employment.
 
Lutherf said:
That’s an internal Ukraine issue that doesn’t involve the US. However, since you brought the subject up, it would have been a whole lot more appropriate for Biden to have suggested such an investigation rather than demanding summary termination of employment.
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Oh I think Joe should be congratulated for pulling that off. Quite a feat for somebody Trumpkin calls sleepy joe. If Biden was simply a Repug instead of a Dem he would have been hoisted on high on the gilded shoulders of the GOP for his efforts.
 
beefheart said:
Not secret, it is standard operating procedure, just like the depositions in Benghazi. You keep repeating this dumb talking point...
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Well as a citizen I want to know what is going on or is it a secret.
 
roughdraft274 said:
1/2 of the congress isn't privy to? You are just making **** up at this point. Republicans are on the committees doing the investigation and I've seen no reporting that they have been withheld information or testimony or the chance to ask questions. Stop making stuff up. Just cause Trump is a liar doesn't mean that all of his followers have to drop everything and follow suit.
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A Republican member of the House Judiciary Committee was ejected from a closed-door impeachment hearing.

It seems more than just me is making this up. NOT

Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida tried to enter a hearing Monday in which lawmakers from three different committees are interviewing President Trump’s former top aide on Russia, Fiona Hill.
Gaetz said he believed he should be allowed to attend the hearing because impeachment inquiries traditionally are handled by the House Judiciary Committee, and he serves on that panel.
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PIPEWRENCH said:
A Republican member of the House Judiciary Committee was ejected from a closed-door impeachment hearing.

It seems more than just me is making this up. NOT
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He's not on the investigating committee. The republicans on the committee were in the meeting. So saying "1/2 of our elected congress isn't privy to" you're just making up bull****. Which I understand, you have to do, because you're out of other options. But I don't feel sorry for Trump supporters. They've put themselves in this position. So keep lying. Keep obfuscating. Keep denying that "I won't give you this unless you give me that!" isn't a quid pro quo. This is all going to end with either this monster being removed by impeachment or by him being voted out of office in a historic landslide.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Well as a citizen I want to know what is going on or is it a secret.
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Too bad, as a citizen you have to accept the normal and customary standards of how these hearings work. You don't have the right, nor does an idiot like Gaetz.
 
roughdraft274 said:
He's not on the investigating committee. The republicans on the committee were in the meeting. So saying "1/2 of our elected congress isn't privy to" you're just making up bull****. Which I understand, you have to do, because you're out of other options. But I don't feel sorry for Trump supporters. They've put themselves in this position. So keep lying. Keep obfuscating. Keep denying that "I won't give you this unless you give me that!" isn't a quid pro quo. This is all going to end with either this monster being removed by impeachment or by him being voted out of office in a historic landslide.
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I hope this coup is not successful.
 
beefheart said:
Too bad, as a citizen you have to accept the normal and customary standards of how these hearings work. You don't have the right, nor does an idiot like Gaetz.
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Evidently the government no longer serves the people in this country. I guess in the constitution "We the People" needs to be removed and instead put "The Government".
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Evidently the government no longer serves the people in this country. I guess in the constitution "We the People" needs to be removed and instead put "The Government".
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No, evidently you have zero comprehension of the constitution, and you allow yourself to become very ignorant about this. Its a normal process, like a grand jury, it is a confidential hearing, just for the committee members. Your whining about it is becoming embarrassing.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I hope this coup is not successful.
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You can only call this a coup if you believe that the constitution isn't the law of the land. And I already know full well what Trump supporters have no respect for the constitution or really any aspect of the country. So that goes without saying.
 
In trying to determine how in God's name Pompeo decided it made sense to send Bill Taylor to Ukraine to replace Yovanovich, another life long career State Department official just recalled under highly suspicious circumstances, I conclude that its hard to understand. What did they imagine Bill Taylor would do once he saw this mess that had taken down Yovanovich headed straight for his nose?

My guess, these clowns (Pompeo, Sundland, Volker, Rudy, Perry) are so jaded that they determined that Taylor would do nothing. That Taylor would both allow himself to be looped into this conspiracy and thus expose himself to possible loss of career and much worse and yet not raise an eyebrow, not sound an alarm bell, not question what was going on around him and what he was being exposed to. That he would just stand there like a dope and let it happen to him, to the State Dept, to the USA and to Ukraine.

That appears now like a giant error in judgement, mainly by Pompeo. Sondland is a card carrying idiot who bought his EU Ambassadorship who is likely now going to be called back to the House Committees to explain his ridiculous take on what he was actually doing in this fiasco.

I think these clowns just did not have the means to grapple with what Bill Taylor really represented. Dr Hill is another one. But they were not trying to loop Dr Hill into this conspiracy. They might have tried had she hung around longer than she did. But in Taylor's case, they made a bombastic error in judgement about the man's temperament, his competence and his commitment to the Country and to the State Dept. I literally have no idea how they got themselves to their individual and group decisions regarding Taylor other than that they are so far gone, so far away form duty to country that they just did not see it coming at them.

Notice, that as vocal as Hill Trumpettes have been in the past, none of them are defending Trumpkin regarding the actual testimony. They are left yammering about the process.
 
roughdraft274 said:
You can only call this a coup if you believe that the constitution isn't the law of the land. And I already know full well what Trump supporters have no respect for the constitution or really any aspect of the country. So that goes without saying.
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Just like the collusion lie. Here we go again. This has been a coup since Trump won the election.
 
SCrider said:
Jesus how did you come up with this tripe? You are so backwards here it's amazing.
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I take that as I'm correct. You blather out a statement with no supporting evidence. Did you also know that Taylor is connected to the Biden's? That's now coming out.
 
Cougarbear said:
I take that as I'm correct. You blather out a statement with no supporting evidence. Did you also know that Taylor is connected to the Biden's? That's now coming out.
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No it was amazing how incorrect you are with all of that ****. The prosecutor they fired was not investigating and that was the problem. He was Not investigating corruption he was in fact letting it continue. The rest is not even worth commenting on because you are obviously a hopeless cultist who does not want to know the truth anyway.
 
SCrider said:
No it was amazing how incorrect you are with all of that ****. The prosecutor they fired was not investigating and that was the problem. He was Not investigating corruption he was in fact letting it continue. The rest is not even worth commenting on because you are obviously a hopeless cultist who does not want to know the truth anyway.
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This is the classic situation of a corrupt prosecutor, where the corrupt people say he wasn't corrupt, his opponents were, and all the fur flying as they yell at each other, one telling the truth and the other lying, muddies the waters. The corrupt leaders constantly use false claims that they're attacking corruption to persecute their opponents. China and Putin love doing it, and trump.
 
HumblePi said:
The weight of evidence is overwhelming and it's very sad that there isn't a majority of republicans in Congress at this point in time coming forward to say 'this will not stand, not on our watch'. The republicans that are in these hearings and those who are not, do nothing but complain about the process, but there's none -- not a single republican, that has spoken up about the context of what each and every career foreign service person has said in sworn depositions. Their silence will condemn them in history.

Asking foreign leaders to help him win an election is the ultimate betrayal of his office. He is inviting people to corrupt our elections and he's asking foreign leaders, not the American people, to reelect him. This is the ultimate betrayal of the office of the presidency.
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But that's the only way Trump and his supporters can win, by selling out their country to foreign interests.
 
JustHanging said:
But that's the only way Trump and his supporters can win, by selling out their country to foreign interests.
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It's pretty despicable that people can be so welded to Trump that they could toss away everything this country stands for and every single person that died defending it over the years. People don't understand the concept of 'patriotism' anymore, it's been replaced by tribalism.
 
SCrider said:
No it was amazing how incorrect you are with all of that ****. The prosecutor they fired was not investigating and that was the problem. He was Not investigating corruption he was in fact letting it continue. The rest is not even worth commenting on because you are obviously a hopeless cultist who does not want to know the truth anyway.
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Biden admitting the quid pro quo. The prosecutor was investigating Burisma. Enough said.
 
Cougarbear said:
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Biden admitting the quid pro quo. The prosecutor was investigating Burisma. Enough said.
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Yep,
you don't have the capacity to understand the difference, enough said.
 
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