Amazon listing tariff prices is a 'hostile and political act,' White House says (1 Viewer)

[Sage077]

Who knew something as simple as itemized receipts would be considered “hostile” or “political”

Indeed. Amazing how the WH brands things that they are in favor of. Tarrif is a beautfiul word. Apart from being an idiotic comment, to say hostile or political is even worse. POLTICS (Trump version) is what got this mess started. He should expect "unexpected consequences" , and he should realize he cannot control everything. Much as he thinks he is.
Just as important: badmouthing a company or anyone in this juvenile wai.......is just that......juvenile, bellicose, belligerent and dumb. To listen to him boast about all his successes in the first hundred days.......is appalling.......as there is hardly a shred of truth to any of his senile ramblings.
Why shouldn't the people know how much they are paying to keep Trump happy with his destructive tariffs. Particularly when he is so inconsistent about them..........to the point they make no rational , logical sense. (never did )

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Sage077]

Because Traitor Trump’s tariffs aren’t based on anything more than his warped perceptions, massive insecurities, vindictiveness, and plain ****ing stupidity.

Absolutely !!!! And his moronic handling of them is similar to playing games......childish games without regard to consequences' of which there are many. He could care less. Meanwhile the uncertainty grows along with general anxiety. Economists all indicate that Tariffs are counter productive........but Trump prefers to live in some dark age when tariffs were the thing.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Absolutely !!!! And his moronic handling of them is similar to playing games......childish games without regard to consequences' of which there are many. He could care less. Meanwhile the uncertainty grows along with general anxiety. Economists all indicate that Tariffs are counter productive........but Trump prefers to live in some dark age when tariffs were the thing.

Traitor Trump, a literal moron who has proven over and over again an inherent disposition towards antisocial behaviors, has lived his entire life protected from his many financial and criminal **** ups by his utterly corrupt father, his utterly corrupt lawyers (including the late disgraced disbarred pos Roy Cohn), and over the last near decade, by cowardly, corrupt, ass kissing Republican officials.

If he were born into an average, middle class family, having access to no special privileges and protections, at best, he’d be an overnight shift manager at a McDonalds, but more likely in and out prison for scamming pensioners and charitable organizations.

Did I forget to mention what an absolute piece of shit he is?

 

[Sage077]

Hostile politics will be the subject of an upcoming EO.

"hostile politics" is the Trump MO. His anger shows through in his desire for vengeance, his bellgerence, his constant threats, his over aggressive , tactless undiplomatic language. He has only himself to look at for "hostile politics". The bloke is a master at projection , denial, and rationalization. (aka psych issues)

 

[Sage077]

"Nooooo Trump you were supposed to lower corporate taxes and help me destroy the NLRB not throw a grenade into the global economy!"

With his serious credibility issues.......did you really think he would keep to his "promises"??? He would say what his followers wanted to hear ....to get elected. His voters should have seen him for what he really is. A blatant lying, selfish, narcissistic power hungry , money hungry bloke with strong authoritarian characteristics.. BTW: a BULLY ( which he is in spades) is not a person of true strength and character. He is just a sadistic bully.

 

[yankintx]

It's pretty standard practice in the United States for retailers to list sales taxes separately from the item price. Hotels/airlines often display other travel-related taxes too. Some states charge an excise tax on products like alcohol/cigarettes/marijuana which are also listed separately.

Why does the Trump Administration think his import taxes should be any different? Why is it "hostile" to display it, when Trump assures us this will be a great thing for America? If Trump isn't ashamed of it, then there's no reason for him to try to hide it.

Wait..

I thought the importers would pay the tarriff, not the customer?

Guess who got swindled MAGAS?

 

[Sage077]

Traitor Trump, a literal moron who has proven over and over again an inherent disposition towards antisocial behaviors, has lived his entire life protected from his many financial and criminal **** ups by his utterly corrupt father, his utterly corrupt lawyers (including the late disgraced disbarred pos Roy Cohn), and over the last near decade, by cowardly, corrupt, ass kissing Republican officials.

If he were born into an average, middle class family, having access to no special privileges and protections, at best, he’d be an overnight shift manager at a McDonalds, but more likely in and out prison for scamming pensioners and charitable organizations.

Did I forget to mention what an absolute piece of shit he is?

You nailed it. !!! The question is : how come so many got sucked in?? He is anti social , as in psych pathology........plus other dysfunctional behavioral and idea issues. He is out of contact with reality....and that is due to exactly what you describe so well.

 

[Sage077]

The question that remains is: WHO actually BENEFITS for the tariffs?? Technically, Trump is using tariffs as an extortion tactic to get what he wants....creating a highly unpalatable situation......... and one where trust of the USG is seriously eroded .

 

[trouble13]

I get why they don't like it and it is partisan but I also think Trump is wrong on this and Amazon should list the tariff cost on all their items. People should know how they are being taxed.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

You nailed it. !!! The question is : how come so many got sucked in?? He is anti social , as in psych pathology........plus other dysfunctional behavioral and idea issues. He is out of contact with reality....and that is due to exactly what you describe so well.

Good question.

Traitor Trump’s psychopathy, partly innate and partly influenced/nurtured throughout childhood by a home environment of excess privilege, absence of any demonstrated love, and an overbearing, verbally and emotionally abusive father who taught his son that there are only winners and losers, and that life is a win at all costs war, is largely what made him what he is.

How come so many are sucked in by Traitor Trump?

Because he has no morals. No actual sense of right and wrong, and no limits.

He succeeds in conning people because he boldly plays to any grievances, desires, prejudices, etc, of those he’s trying win over, saying and doing whatever it takes, without compunction.

Easily the most corrupt, in every way, president our country has ever had the great misfortune to be burden with.

 

[yankintx]

In a matter of 1 week after Trumps much hyped Liberation Day most tarrifs where adjusted. Trump blinked lol

 

[snakestretcher]

Corruption has been part of government since the beginning of civilization.

And murder has been a component of 'civilisation' forever. Neither are, or should be, acceptable as the status quo just because they are well established.

 

[snakestretcher]

Ah. This was between Canada and China...

Yes, some countries do this. Canada is a good example. Raising prices on their own citizens just to show some other country they have an ego and need to save face.

Dumb... so dumb. But what can ya do?

Another poster said that consumer sentiment had changed. Do you disagree with the fact, in light of Canada imposing tariffs?

I think consumer caution is going to be more prevalent. Many people already live paycheck to paycheck with little, if any, disposable income, and those will be the most negatively affected by this reckless, and failing, policy. Trump's tariff stunt failed the last time he tried it, and it will fail again this time-if history informs correctly. And try as he might he will have nobody to blame, but himself.

 

[devildavid]

I get why they don't like it and it is partisan but I also think Trump is wrong on this and Amazon should list the tariff cost on all their items. People should know how they are being taxed.

Trump is wrong on everything. Once you see that you will achieve true enlightenment. But it may scare you too.

 

[devildavid]

Corruption has been part of government since the beginning of civilization.

This is the absolute weakest defense of despot Donnie ever. Sounds like corruption is just fine as long as your worshipped leader is the corrupt one.

 

[The AntiDonald]

The question that remains is: WHO actually BENEFITS for the tariffs?? Technically, Trump is using tariffs as an extortion tactic to get what he wants....creating a highly unpalatable situation......... and one where trust of the USG is seriously eroded .

The top 1% earners and corporations in America do. The purpose of the tariffs is to raise enough revenue to hand out more massive tax cuts to a bunch of folks who don't need them and will never allow any so called 'Trickle Down'.

 

[BabaVoss]

Big disruptions in trade usually have negative consequences. Add in that we have demonstrated a disregard for our long term trading partners and insulted and offended our long term allies. These are not positive developments.

China is stable. We are not. We are flip flopping on trade agreements and tariffs, and have threatened Canada, Greenland, and Panama.

Bear in mind that the world id dealing with all of this because trump decided to poke at the world with a sharp stick. We are not making friends.

Define stable .

Consistent. Following norms of international relationships. Being consistent with your own laws. Having steady leadership. I think we all understand what stable means.

By my definition, I would submit that China is not stable, not economically, which is why - I think - Trump chose to put pressure on Beijing now.

Trump is doing this now because he got back into power and this is what he did during his first term. At times he is unshakable in his wrongheaded beliefs. He is obsessed with trade imbalances, even though they are a normal part of international trade. He has long insisted - wrongly - that any trade deficit means that we have lost money.
We will lose the trade war of choice. Most economists agree we lost that trade war too,
it cost us billions.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Who knew something as simple as itemized receipts would be considered “hostile” or “political”

The truth is a hostile act for Dear Leader and his merry band of corrupt sycophants.

 

[eohrnberger]

I get why they don't like it and it is partisan but I also think Trump is wrong on this and Amazon should list the tariff cost on all their items. People should know how they are being taxed.

The question is whether the practice will continue when the presidency changes parties.
I'm guessing probably not. So, yes, it is wholly political activism.

Where there line items in Amazon receipts reflecting price increases due to inflation, particularly the inflation increases resulting from Biden's and the Democrats' spending spree early in Biden's term?
Nope.

While, no, the administration isn't going to be able to do anything about it, but it also needs to be recognized for what it is, purely political and purely political activism.
So in that we agree.

 

[Logophile]

Big disruptions in trade usually have negative consequences. Add in that we have demonstrated a disregard for our long term trading partners and insulted and offended our long term allies. These are not positive developments.

China is stable. We are not. We are flip flopping on trade agreements and tariffs, and have threatened Canada, Greenland, and Panama.

Bear in mind that the world id dealing with all of this because trump decided to poke at the world with a sharp stick. We are not making friends.

Consistent. Following norms of international relationships. Being consistent with your own laws. Having steady leadership. I think we all understand what stable means.


Trump is doing this now because he got back into power and this is what he did during his first term. At times he is unshakable in his wrongheaded beliefs. He is obsessed with trade imbalances, even though they are a normal part of international trade. He has long insisted - wrongly - that any trade deficit means that we have lost money.
We will lose the trade war of choice. Most economists agree we lost that trade war too,
it cost us billions.

You are not defining stable within the context of your post. Context is very important here. You have yet to define stable in the context of an economy, possibly because you don't know what it means. And whether we "win or lose" the so called "trade war" is a liberal and rather childish application. When it comes to the overriding economic problems of the US, the "lose or win" concept needs to be tossed.

We have a federal debt load that we cannot sustain without another means of dependable revenue. We also have a population with sky high credit debt that are now, starting to default, and that includes the upper middle class. The general liberal philosophy is that we can all borrow, borrow, borrow and live high off the hog both personally and governmentally, but that's a fantasy which will drive us to into third world economic strife if we continue to exercise it.

The Trump Administration has to leverage other means of income while weeding out unnecessary expenditures. And it's not an easy place to be but it has to be done. The administration is also trying to end two stupid, unwinnable military conflicts that are costing Americans hundreds of billions - that we don't have - in their support, support that does not benefit any US citizens AT ALL, but forces Americans into participating in wholesale murder.

The trade deficit has to be remedied and businesses - at least some - have to return. China is not an ally, and every other administration has had to recognize it. Our military and technological life lines have to be guarded and manufactured here. Americans have to stop spending so much on junk and put their finances in order. We are flirting with another 2008 meltdown which is the product of Biden's appalling fiscal irresponsibility coupled with our inability to manage the debt. Radical change is needed, and that is what the Trump administration is trying to do, so for the sake of your country and kids, get on board

 

[BabaVoss]

You are not defining stable within the context of your post. Context is very important here. You have yet to define stable in the context of an economy, possibly because you don't know what it means.

Your little zinger aside, you don’t believe that consistency, following norms of international relationships, and steady leadership should be considered ‘context’ in this situation as it relates to stability. I don’t blame you, given our current unstable leadership. But, of course, I disagree.

And whether we "win or lose" the so called "trade war" is a liberal and rather childish application.

You are free to think so. That opinion is an odd one from an economic perspective. As for trump’s trade war of choice, there’s no way you can pretend it isn’t exactly that. Again, he did this before, we lost billions. He’s doing it again, and we will lose again.

When it comes to the overriding economic problems of the US, the "lose or win" concept needs to be tossed.

Again, not something i can agree with. What is your rationale for “tossing” this fundamental concept?

We have a federal debt load that we cannot sustain without another means of dependable revenue.

I agree we have too much debt. What ‘other means’ of revenue are you suggesting?

 

[trouble13]

The question is whether the practice will continue when the presidency changes parties.
I'm guessing probably not. So, yes, it is wholly political activism.

Where there line items in Amazon receipts reflecting price increases due to inflation, particularly the inflation increases resulting from Biden's and the Democrats' spending spree early in Biden's term?
Nope.

While, no, the administration isn't going to be able to do anything about it, but it also needs to be recognized for what it is, purely political and purely political activism.
So in that we agree.

I agree that it is a purely political motivation by Amazon for doing it or they would do it straight down the board for everything but that does not change the fact that the gov should be transparent about how much they are taxing people. Imagine if people saw all the different taxes they were paying when they bought alcohol, gasoline, or even groceries. People should know just how deeply the gov digs into their pockets.

In short I agree with listing all taxes charged to people but I don't support it being done selectively for political purposes.

This is also why I am a huge proponent of abolishing the 16th amendment and the income tax. Replacing it with consumption taxes.

 

[Lovebug]

It's pretty standard practice in the United States for retailers to list sales taxes separately from the item price. Hotels/airlines often display other travel-related taxes too. Some states charge an excise tax on products like alcohol/cigarettes/marijuana which are also listed separately.

Why does the Trump Administration think his import taxes should be any different? Why is it "hostile" to display it, when Trump assures us this will be a great thing for America? If Trump isn't ashamed of it, then there's no reason for him to try to hide it.

IOW, why doesn't Trump want the prices listed? We'll find out eventually.
Time to bookmark all the current prices for future comparison.

 

[eohrnberger]

I agree that it is a purely political motivation by Amazon for doing it or they would do it straight down the board for everything but that does not change the fact that the gov should be transparent about how much they are taxing people. Imagine if people saw all the different taxes they were paying when they bought alcohol, gasoline, or even groceries. People should know just how deeply the gov digs into their pockets.

Agreed, but I think you'll never get a politician to agree.

In short I agree with listing all taxes charged to people but I don't support it being done selectively for political purposes.

Absolutely.

This is also why I am a huge proponent of abolishing the 16th amendment and the income tax. Replacing it with consumption taxes.

That proposal strikes some chords with me as well. But there's an entire industry behind tax preparation, among others, who's livelihood that would significantly alter, the least of which si congress and their passing out loop holes to their favored entities, both private citizens and not.