Against all odds, “Ukraine Didn’t Fall”, Zelinsky says in historic address to Congress

[oneworld2]

He's a hero.

Had you been their leader you would have already surrendered and the Ukrainians would have no country.

Rubbish.

He sold his people down the river by not concluding a negotiated settlement before this war had even begun.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The Russians are attacking civilian targets & non military infrastructure, raping & executing civilians. How does one mock such barbarism?

It's appears easy.

 

[vegas giants]

I was speaking of their military threat , not the actions of some of their troops, obviously.

IE If they can't overrun Ukraine , what chance of overrunning a NATO aligned eastern Europe?

They would easily have over run Ukraine without all our backing

 

[vegas giants]

Rubbish.

He sold his people down the river by not concluding a negotiated settlement before this war had even begun.

Just give us your land....and we won't shoot you. Lol

 

[oneworld2]

Cargo pants have more pockets in them?

 

[vegas giants]

Cargo pants have more pockets in them?

Let's fill them with cash

 

[CaughtInThe]

Rubbish.

He sold his people down the river by not concluding a negotiated settlement before this war had even begun.

No, if you were their leader you would have surrendered. Anyone reading your posts can see that surrender is in your DNA.

Z is a hero who is leading his country against an invader who has killed and maimed children.


How do you sleep st night?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Cargo pants have more pockets in them?

Why would you care? As you surrender to invaders they will tell you what to wear. Sometimes they even give you a number.

 

[jpevans]

I was speaking of their military threat , not the actions of some of their troops, obviously.

IE If they can't overrun Ukraine , what chance of overrunning a NATO aligned eastern Europe?

Then you should be addressing your queries to Pooten, not me. The Madman prob'ly thinks he's winning. These dictator types have a hard time telling winning from losing.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[CaughtInThe]

Then you should be addressing your queries to Pooten, not me. The Madman prob'ly thinks he's winning. These dictator types have a hard time telling winning from losing.

One thing this thread has accomplished...

If we're ever invaded I know who I don't want in a foxhole beside me.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[cpwill]

It's all very strange.

A half dozen super macho, Christian supermales, wouldn't stare at another dude's guns type of posters all showed up to give their hot takes on ... clothing worn by a guy leading his country during a war? Less than colorful outfits worn by dudes who aren't pretending to play war?

It's orchestrated. Has to be.

....eh. They would have criticized it just as furiously if he'd shown up dressed to the nines (more so, maybe). But that doesn't require orchestration - peer pressure, groupthink, and our instant hot-take-reaction culture creates powerful incentives for everyone in a bubble to ditto and double down on previous reactions.

 

[anatta]

If Pooten were to take over Ukraine, do you think he would stop there? Ukraine is the curb to Pooten's new Soviet Union...

how??? He cant even hold the 4 oblasts that he claims fior Russia. I love this -exactly what Zelensky sells -fear and paranoia

 

[anatta]

You would think Zelenskyy could wear a suit. If you are going to make a speech in front of congress, at least dress for the occasion.

he was in character. it's the role he plays. he never takes off the olive drab because he's a foot soldier just like..nevermind

 

[oneworld2]

No, if you were their leader you would have surrendered. Anyone reading your posts can see that surrender is in your DNA.

Sticks and stones

Z is a hero who is leading his country against an invader who has killed and maimed children.

His own army were " killing and maiming children" before the Russians even invaded this year. Obviously for you, some child victims of war are worthy of sympathy and others not so much.

Your constant showing of maimed children is creepy imo You want to carry on supporting the war they are dying and being maimed in and then you post pictures of their suffering?

Do you want the war to continue because it provides you more opportunities to post pictures of those maimed by it?

How do you sleep st night?

Fine because I go to bed knowing I have tried to save lives, you go to bed knowing you are supporting wars that take them.

Maybe you should be looking in the mirror and asking yourself why you post pictures of children suffering and then support the very thing that is the cause of their suffering in the first place.

 

[vegas giants]

he was in character. it's the role he plays. he never takes off the olive drab because he's a foot soldier just like..nevermind

It's called war

 

[anatta]

80 billion already and another 35 billion to protect the border and we couldn't spend 5 billion to protect ours?

FTX is out of business now. I wonder what plan the Democrats have to funnel a few billion of that back to them?

bcause the USA border is meaningless to Biden but the Ukraine border is sacrosanct

 

[oneworld2]

Then you should be addressing your queries to Pooten, not me. The Madman prob'ly thinks he's winning. These dictator types have a hard time telling winning from losing.

Putin never inferred that he was going to reconstitute the old USSR, you did, so it's on you to answer the question I raised about it, you understand that right?

So, if he is struggling with just Ukraine , how is he going to take on NATO directly and overrun eastern Europe?

 

[anatta]

It's called war

i is???? thanks for the newsflash..so Zelensky is a warrior? oh wait.

 

[anatta]

Putin never inferred that he was going to reconstitute the old USSR, you did, so it's on you to answer the question I raised about it, you understand that right?

So, if he is struggling with just Ukraine , how is he going to take on NATO directly and overrun eastern Europe?

2002 campaign speech Putin mads such remarks. this is what they hang their hat on.
that the war isn't just because Ukraine is Russia's underbelly / no it's a war to save civilization! ( restore Russian imperium)

 

[vegas giants]

i is???? thanks for the newsflash..so Zelensky is a warrior? oh wait.

Yes. In the fashion of Churchill

 

[anatta]

That may be a valid argument in a pure academic discussion, but the war in Ukraine is real. In that reality do you prefer putin's variety of democracy or that of the US?

I certainly dont want Ukraine style democracy of tossing opposition figues in jail, shutting down newspapers, TV stations and banning churches/interrogating and searching monasteries because of "Russian spies"
This is the "democracy" we are so keen on

 

[vegas giants]

I certainly dont want Ukraine style democracy of tossing opposition figues in jail, shutting down newspapers, TV stations and banning churches/interrogating and searching monasteries because of "Russian spies"
This is the "democracy" we are so keen on

Yeah. It will be much better when Russia is running Ukraine... right?

 

[anatta]

Yes. In the fashion of Churchill

Churchill wore a uniform like maybe 2x. other then that he wore a bolder hat and a suit.
Zelensjy wears the t shirt like a costume - oh it works, he comes to the USA and gets more amd more billions, while Europe sits on it's hands (comparitively speaking )