AG Garland weighs in on the hearings

[Fishking]

Vacuous drivel


Don't expect Fishking to think on that level, the level of where the DOJ is actually operating.

Shhhhhh...

 

[Fishking]

LOL Oversight over the executive does not end when a President leaves office. He is still responsible for his actions while President.

Yep...they had impeachment hearings already. It didn't work out. It would be a shame if Congress didn't keep the circus going to make sure that people remain distracted from how they are doing such an utterly shit job at running the country.

 

[TrumpTalibanSteaks]

Yep...they had impeachment hearings already. It didn't work out. It would be a shame if Congress didn't keep the circus going to make sure that people remain distracted from how they are doing such an utterly shit job at running the country.

You mean like that time they supported an attempted coup? Those congress folks really should be punished for that.

 

[JMB802]

Trump didn't disrupt Congress, the rioters did. Trump didn't have the authority to stop the riots, that's now how our government works. If you want to whine about that then look no further than the DC governor who refused to beef up security before the 6th. Further, people were inside the Capitol building for 2 1/2 hrs.

There wasn't a planned coup. We'd have the DOJ on this already if they had something.

Of course, the takeover of the government was planned. Trump was counting on his racist kook Proud Boy supporters to delay Pence's formalization of the election so the conservatives could start their desperate alternate elector voodoo. Pence put a wrench in the works.

 

[Fishking]

Of course, the takeover of the government was planned. Trump was counting on his racist kook Proud Boy supporters to delay Pence's formalization of the election so the conservatives could start their desperate alternate elector voodoo. Pence put a wrench in the works.

Wrap the tin foil hat a little tighter on your head. The most that would've happened is a delay until normal investigations were carried out and closed, with no results, and the same thing would've happened. Biden becoming the President.

 

[JMB802]

Wrap the tin foil hat a little tighter on your head. The most that would've happened is a delay until normal investigations were carried out and closed, with no results, and the same thing would've happened. Biden becoming the President.

What "normal investigations" would have been carried out if Pence was whisked away to a secure area?

And why did Grassley tweet that he would be available to take Pence's place on 1/6?

 

[iguanaman]

Yep...they had impeachment hearings already. It didn't work out. It would be a shame if Congress didn't keep the circus going to make sure that people remain distracted from how they are doing such an utterly shit job at running the country.

This is not a distraction it is a duty. Just like the impeachments where they proved their case 100% and Republicans said the people should decide and they did. The criminal got booted out on his ass.

 

[Fishking]

What "normal investigations" would have been carried out if Pence was whisked away to a secure area?

The same ones that happened by the states in the 1st place.

 

[JMB802]

The same ones that happened by the states in the 1st place.

Do you mean the "normal investigations" that were already thrown out of the courts dozens of times?

If there was no plan, then why did Grassley, a Trump sycophant, suggest that he and not Pence would preside over the formalization of the electors on 1/6?

Grassley was in on the coup

look at the date on the tweet.

debatepolitics.com

 

[Fishking]

Do you mean the "normal investigations" that were already thrown out of the courts dozens of times?

If there was no plan, then why did Grassley, a Trump sycophant, suggest that he and not Pence would preside over the formalization of the electors on 1/6?

Grassley was in on the coup

look at the date on the tweet.

debatepolitics.com

You understand they were thrown out over lack of standing, and not over actual case strength, right? That make those procedural rulings.

 

[JMB802]

You understand they were thrown out over lack of standing, and not over actual case strength, right? That make those procedural rulings.

So who would be conducting the "normal investigations"?

And if there was never a plan to overthrow the election, why would Grassley state that he would preside over the certification of the electoral votes on 1/6 since Pence wasn't expected to be there?

Grassley suggests he may preside over Senate debate on Electoral College votes • Iowa Capital Dispatch

Sen. Chuck Grassley, Senate president pro tempore, suggested he may preside over the U.S. Senate debate regarding counting Electoral College votes.

iowacapitaldispatch.com

 

[OscarLevant]

You understand they were thrown out over lack of standing, and not over actual case strength, right? That make those procedural rulings.

What does that say about Trump and his surrogates hiring incompetent attorneys?

You want to know what it it says?

That competent attorneys refuse his business. He can only attract morons like Sidney Powell and goons like Giuliani.

But, of course, that didn't occur to you.

 

[Nickyjo]

Trump didn't disrupt Congress, the rioters did. Trump didn't have the authority to stop the riots, that's now how our government works. If you want to whine about that then look no further than the DC governor who refused to beef up security before the 6th. Further, people were inside the Capitol building for 2 1/2 hrs.

There wasn't a planned coup. We'd have the DOJ on this already if they had something.

Trump had the MORAL authority to stop the riot and the moral obligation to do so. Just as he immorally caused the riot, and sat on his hands for hours. No Trump lies/delusions (take your pick) no riots, no threats to Mike Pence. But much as Trump famously stated that he "takes nor responsibility for anything," his supporters don't hold him responsibile for anything negative.

 

[Fishking]

What does that say about Trump and his surrogates hiring incompetent attorneys?

You want to know what it it says?

That competent attorneys refuse his business. He can only attract morons like Sidney Powell and goons like Giuliani.

But, of course, that didn't occur to you.

Irrelevant.

 

[Fishking]

Trump had the MORAL authority to stop the riot and the moral obligation to do so. Just as he immorally caused the riot, and sat on his hands for hours. No Trump lies/delusions (take your pick) no riots, no threats to Mike Pence. But much as Trump famously stated that he "takes nor responsibility for anything," his supporters don't hold him responsibile for anything negative.

Uhh...how? Put a secret rioter bat signal that everyone could see and they'd all just stop?

 

[Nickyjo]

Uhh...how? Put a secret rioter bat signal that everyone could see and they'd all just stop?

He could have immediately broadcast a plea to back off from what they were doing. And repeated it. And got those who backed him that day to broadcast similar things, rather than doubling down on Mike Pence. Might have worked, might not have. Bottom line is that Trump didn't care.

 

[ataraxia]

Yep...they had impeachment hearings already. It didn't work out.

Sure it did. Where did you hear otherwise?

Just because the GOP senate was corrupt does not mean the impeachment hearings didn't work out. Just ask the GOP senators.

"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office.”
-Marco Rubio (R)

 

[OscarLevant]

Irrelevant.

Since your prior comments are incompetent, credibility zero, your comment is not reliable for accuracy.


All 60 lawsuits shot down and most of them are denied because of standing? That's legal malpractice, incompetent attorneys
Therefore, it's logical to wonder why Trump is hiring incompetent attorneys. The logical conclusion is that competent attorneys do not want his business.
And why wouldn't a competent attorney want the business of the President of The United States? Because he's a notorious deadbeat and liar.
If he is a notorious deadbeat and liar, he shouldn't be in charge of the nuclear football, not yesterday, not today, not ever.

My point is relevant. It is relevant as all hell.

 

[Fishking]

He could have immediately broadcast a plea to back off from what they were doing. And repeated it. And got those who backed him that day to broadcast similar things, rather than doubling down on Mike Pence. Might have worked, might not have. Bottom line is that Trump didn't care.

Broadcast a message to rioters? How's that work?

 

[Nickyjo]

Broadcast a message to rioters? How's that work?

Same way he told the rioters that Pence was a disappointment, same way as he told them - hours after things started - to go home. McCarthy and Ivanka seem to have known know how Trump could have done it. Trump was still tweeting a complaint about Pence after Pence had been taken off the House floor by security.

Trump tells Capitol rioters to ‘go home’ but repeatedly pushes false claim that election was stolen

The Capitol is under lockdown after pro-Trump rioters stormed the building, stopping Congress from confirming Joe Biden's Electoral College victory.

www.cnbc.com

New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call off the rioters

In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the US Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.

www.cnn.com

Jan. 6 panel has 'firsthand testimony' Ivanka Trump asked father to intervene in riot, Cheney says

GOP Rep. Liz Cheney said the panel also had testimony that the then-president was watching the attack on TV as allies, including his daughter, asked him to do something.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Fishking]

Same way he told the rioters that Pence was a disappointment, same way as he told them - hours after things started - to go home. McCarthy and Ivanka seem to have known know how Trump could have done it. Trump was still tweeting a complaint about Pence after Pence had been taken off the House floor by security.

Trump tells Capitol rioters to ‘go home’ but repeatedly pushes false claim that election was stolen

The Capitol is under lockdown after pro-Trump rioters stormed the building, stopping Congress from confirming Joe Biden's Electoral College victory.

www.cnbc.com

New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call off the rioters

In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the US Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.

www.cnn.com

Jan. 6 panel has 'firsthand testimony' Ivanka Trump asked father to intervene in riot, Cheney says

GOP Rep. Liz Cheney said the panel also had testimony that the then-president was watching the attack on TV as allies, including his daughter, asked him to do something.

www.nbcnews.com

People were in the Capitol building for 2 1/2 hrs, some of the time in the beginning it was clear what was even going on. How's it going to get to them when their running through the Capitol? Did they have a PA system set up he could use or something?

 

[Nickyjo]

People were in the Capitol building for 2 1/2 hrs, some of the time in the beginning it was clear what was even going on. How's it going to get to them when their running through the Capitol? Did they have a PA system set up he could use or something?

As I said, Ivanka and McCarthy seem to have thought that Trump could have done something. But realiy, is that what your questions are about? Are you trying to absolve Trump of responsibility for what his months long fraud-claiming campaign resulted in? He and no one else set the events in motion by his lies. He bears responsibility for what happened, moral if not legal, on a large scale, and I assume he bears legal responsibility for smaller scale events, for his personal attacks by name on an election worker and her daughter. That one incident is perhaps symbolic of his character, cruelty coupled with careless irresponsibility.

 

[HangLow]

The only thing that is incompetent is your hypocrisy, vacuous weasel words, cheap shots, sophomoric assumptions, and soporific drivel.

The lead investigative counsel for the 1/6 committee is John Wood.

Who is John Wood?

Who is John Wood, the Jan. 6 committee’s investigative lawyer? (Published 2022)

Mr. Wood is a close associate of Representative Liz Cheney, one of the two Republican members of the committee.

www.nytimes.com

As the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack begins to sharpen its case, it has increasingly sought to connect former President Donald J. Trump and some of his top advisers and allies with the chaos and violence that unfolded on the day of the riot.

To help unravel the complex legal details surrounding that line of inquiry, last year the committee brought on John Wood, a former U.S. attorney who served during the George W. Bush administration, to be senior investigative counsel.

Mr. Wood is a close associate of Representative Liz Cheney, one of the two Republican members of the committee. He also worked as a clerk for Justice Clarence Thomas, widely considered one of the most consistently conservative members of the Supreme Court, and held other roles within the Bush administration, including chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security.

The committee has relied on Mr. Wood’s conservative bona fides to help frame its investigation as a nonpartisan effort not motivated by politics or vendettas against Mr. Trump.

“The committee will continue to put politics aside to get answers the American people deserve about what happened and how to ensure it never happens again,” the committee said in its September announcement of Mr. Wood’s role.

Before joining committee, Mr. Wood most recently worked as general counsel for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
His involvement with the committee has included overseeing the team scrutinizing Mr. Trump’s direct involvement in the riot.


This idea that Pelosi doesn't know what she is doing tells me that your credibility is zero.

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[HangLow]

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