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After Clinton wins all three debates, Elvis leaves the building.

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Score one for the gipper. Make that three for the gipper. A clean sweep of the debates by Clinton, coupled with an 80% to 90% chance of winning the election, coupled with a significant lead and an upward momentum, it's time to say:

Elvis has left the building.
https://youtu.be/FWS1JiREmhY

Th-th-th-th-that's all, folks!
https://youtu.be/gBzJGckMYO4
 
What exactly is your point in posting this thread?
 
Score one for the gipper. Make that three for the gipper. A clean sweep of the debates by Clinton, coupled with an 80% to 90% chance of winning the election, coupled with a significant lead and an upward momentum, it's time to say:

Elvis has left the building.
https://youtu.be/FWS1JiREmhY

Th-th-th-th-that's all, folks!
https://youtu.be/gBzJGckMYO4

I do not hold out much hope for a Trump win either. Further ... I think the Dems chances of taking over the Senate are good.
 
Score one for the gipper. Make that three for the gipper. A clean sweep of the debates by Clinton, coupled with an 80% to 90% chance of winning the election, coupled with a significant lead and an upward momentum, it's time to say:

Elvis has left the building.
https://youtu.be/FWS1JiREmhY

Th-th-th-th-that's all, folks!
https://youtu.be/gBzJGckMYO4

Congratulations, the candidate your party elite selected for you and shoved down your throats will defeat the worst Presidential nominee in American history. You must feel just wonderful and be basking in what a glorious and remarkable victory that means for you.
 
Congratulations, the candidate your party elite selected for you and shoved down your throats will defeat the worst Presidential nominee in American history. You must feel just wonderful and be basking in what a glorious and remarkable victory that means for you.

Some people apparently find pride in being a puppet.
 
I do not hold out much hope for a Trump win either. Further ... I think the Dems chances of taking over the Senate are good.

And so are their chances of finishing the job on your country the first America-hating black president started to the cheers of the stupid eight years ago.

Yes, what this country so deseprately needs is another incompetent idiot in the WH to continue the destruction.

On the other hand, I take it back. She is a genius, considering her in-your-face criminality and corruption, followed by the lovefest and the feeling of the second coming.

Except this time it's all about a vagina, not pigmentation..
 
Score one for the gipper. Make that three for the gipper. A clean sweep of the debates by Clinton, coupled with an 80% to 90% chance of winning the election, coupled with a significant lead and an upward momentum, it's time to say:

Elvis has left the building.
https://youtu.be/FWS1JiREmhY

Th-th-th-th-that's all, folks!
https://youtu.be/gBzJGckMYO4
And Whiny Donald did indeed leave the building immediately without comment, while Madame President hung around for quite awhile bantering with the press. I think that says it all, concerning which candidates believed they prevailed earlier.

But I must say this: That was Hillary's best of the three debates, and she was a marvelous performer last night, in total command of the facts and the stage. A pretty remarkable performance, in that she adroitly deflected everything thrown at her, while being extremely well prepared at performing well executed attacks on Trump. And all the while looking calm, poised, dignified, and Presidential - and I even might add go as far to add 'graceful'.

She managed to immediately tie most of her comments to the demographic of women that she needs to keep in her fold, and away from Trump. I believe she was highly successful in that, and that was he game-plan.
 
And Whiny Donald did indeed leave the building immediately without comment, while Madame President hung around for quite awhile bantering with the press. I think that says it all, concerning which candidates believed they prevailed earlier.

But I must say this: That was Hillary's best of the three debates, and she was a marvelous performer last night, in total command of the facts and the stage. A pretty remarkable performance, in that she adroitly deflected everything thrown at her, while being extremely well prepared at performing well executed attacks on Trump. And all the while looking calm, poised, dignified, and Presidential - and I even might add go as far to add 'graceful'.

She managed to immediately tie most of her comments to the demographic of women that she needs to keep in her fold, and away from Trump. I believe she was highly successful in that, and that was he game-plan.

You know she, for me, is the reverse of Obama. I always kind of liked Obama, thought both he and "Dubya" would be worthwhile fishing companions [an honor bestowed in my parts], but despised his style, the arrogance and baiting of his opponents.

With Hilary, I have NEVER liked her, never liked the little she has done. Her record sucks in my opinion, but last night she impressed the **** out of me. She was prepared and anchored for every one of Trump's dodges, and made clear her policy amid the bull**** flying. I don't think I will ever like her, but she more than Trump has the country's interests at heart.

With that, a lesson in politics 209, the difference between getting elected and being elected; example: During the longest election campaign in Canada's history, Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau promised a thousand times at least that "this will be the last 'first past the post' election" in Canada. With his polls even higher than when the election was called, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau now says the "popularity of his government and public fears" may mean that that objective will never be met. The media has barely noted it.
 
And so are their chances of finishing the job on your country the first America-hating black president started to the cheers of the stupid eight years ago.

Yes, what this country so deseprately needs is another incompetent idiot in the WH to continue the destruction.

On the other hand, I take it back. She is a genius, considering her in-your-face criminality and corruption, followed by the lovefest and the feeling of the second coming.

Except this time it's all about a vagina, not pigmentation..

If you mean that both Red and Blue stink like pooh !? I agree.
 
Congratulations, the candidate your party elite selected for you and shoved down your throats will defeat the worst Presidential nominee in American history. You must feel just wonderful and be basking in what a glorious and remarkable victory that means for you.

So the Democratic Party shoved Trump down his throat?
 
You know she, for me, is the reverse of Obama. I always kind of liked Obama, thought both he and "Dubya" would be worthwhile fishing companions [an honor bestowed in my parts], but despised his style, the arrogance and baiting of his opponents.

With Hilary, I have NEVER liked her, never liked the little she has done. Her record sucks in my opinion, but last night she impressed the **** out of me. She was prepared and anchored for every one of Trump's dodges, and made clear her policy amid the bull**** flying. I don't think I will ever like her, but she more than Trump has the country's interests at heart.

With that, a lesson in politics 209, the difference between getting elected and being elected; example: During the longest election campaign in Canada's history, Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau promised a thousand times at least that "this will be the last 'first past the post' election" in Canada. With his polls even higher than when the election was called, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau now says the "popularity of his government and public fears" may mean that that objective will never be met. The media has barely noted it.
I think you're expressing much of my thoughts.

I'm no fan of Hillary's personality, but I'm warming-up to her competency - and the debate exuded competency.

But she had a great object of contrast!

I'm completely blown-away by the deficiencies in Donald Trump. With his business empire, I had expected him to be a great negotiator, shrewd thinker, and having a superior public demeanor. He's turned out to be none-of-these things, and actually seems to be a buffoon! He cannot control his emotions. What the hell kind of negotiator cannot control his emotions, or grasp the basic nuances of prevailing in open discussion? He can't even think on his feet!

I'm wondering if his wealth is actually less than claimed, and he's essentially a house of cards?

Perhaps even worse: He may be an example of how in a capitalistic society, inherited capital can allow those with inferior labor to far exceed those who have competent labor - but are themselves lacking capital. I've run into a few of the former, through business.
 
I think you're expressing much of my thoughts.

I'm no fan of Hillary's personality, but I'm warming-up to her competency - and the debate exuded competency.

But she had a great object of contrast!

I'm completely blown-away by the deficiencies in Donald Trump. With his business empire, I had expected him to be a great negotiator, shrewd thinker, and having a superior public demeanor. He's turned out to be none-of-these things, and actually seems to be a buffoon! He cannot control his emotions. What the hell kind of negotiator cannot control his emotions, or grasp the basic nuances of prevailing in open discussion? He can't even think on his feet!

I'm wondering if his wealth is actually less than claimed, and he's essentially a house of cards?

Perhaps even worse: He may be an example of how in a capitalistic society, inherited capital can allow those with inferior labor to far exceed those who have competent labor - but are themselves lacking capital. I've run into a few of the former, through business.

His defects are a result of his work environment: never challeged, always obeyed, always admired, never forced to be quick on his feet.

I could do a better job handling the witch of the East.
 
Congratulations, the candidate your party elite selected for you and shoved down your throats will defeat the worst Presidential nominee in American history. You must feel just wonderful and be basking in what a glorious and remarkable victory that means for you.

I'm not a Democrat.
 
His defects are a result of his work environment: never challeged, always obeyed, always admired, never forced to be quick on his feet.

I could do a better job handling the witch of the East.
You know, when I later reviewed certain parts of the debate later last night, I was impressed by the way she controlled and dominated the last hour. The split screen was awesome. While in his responses he'd be all angered & flummoxed over something she said, you could actually sense she was letting him rattle on, already having prepared for the response she would give, which was going to rattle him more! She seemed to be three steps ahead of him, and knew it - remaining smug & controlled.

Check-out how she lied-in-waiting for his inevitable slap at her 30 years in politics:


 
Rush agrees with me that Trump had a ton of blown great opportunities last night, Hillary was actually very poor for a pro, especially one who has been around at the top as long as she has, but that's ok, I am very proud of Trump.

Donald J Trump did great for a Amatuer, he was the only one who has ever asked to lead The Rebellion, and then he moved the ball far down the field.

Trump is one of the great patriots of our time.

:ind:
 
You know she, for me, is the reverse of Obama. I always kind of liked Obama, thought both he and "Dubya" would be worthwhile fishing companions [an honor bestowed in my parts], but despised his style, the arrogance and baiting of his opponents.

With Hilary, I have NEVER liked her, never liked the little she has done. Her record sucks in my opinion, but last night she impressed the **** out of me. She was prepared and anchored for every one of Trump's dodges, and made clear her policy amid the bull**** flying. I don't think I will ever like her, but she more than Trump has the country's interests at heart.

With that, a lesson in politics 209, the difference between getting elected and being elected; example: During the longest election campaign in Canada's history, Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau promised a thousand times at least that "this will be the last 'first past the post' election" in Canada. With his polls even higher than when the election was called, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau now says the "popularity of his government and public fears" may mean that that objective will never be met. The media has barely noted it.

Like Chomsky, your post sums up closely how I feel about Clinton. I'll never be overly fond of her. In the end, that isn't as important as the ability to do the job. I don't even like some of her positions. But at least she does have the interest of the country at heart, I believe, and is capable of being a mature, calm, capable leader who won't get us into a nuclear war and will not be a puppet for a foreign leader. I do think she's made of steel, even though she's female. She's been dealing with unprecedented personal attacks for decades, now. Doesn't hurt that she's a hard worker with a lot of experience under her belt, and a wealth of background knowledge on which to make reasoned decisions (recognizing I won't like some of her decisions).

BTW, even though I'm female, I did not decide to support her because she's female. Females don't stick together as much as some other groups do. Her being female is a perk, I suppose. But I see her gender as a non-issue. I worked for females in the past, so I don't think anything of them being in positions of leadership.
 
Like Chomsky, your post sums up closely how I feel about Clinton. I'll never be overly fond of her. In the end, that isn't as important as the ability to do the job. I don't even like some of her positions. But at least she does have the interest of the country at heart, I believe, and is capable of being a mature, calm, capable leader who won't get us into a nuclear war and will not be a puppet for a foreign leader. I do think she's made of steel, even though she's female. She's been dealing with unprecedented personal attacks for decades, now. Doesn't hurt that she's a hard worker with a lot of experience under her belt, and a wealth of background knowledge on which to make reasoned decisions (recognizing I won't like some of her decisions).

BTW, even though I'm female, I did not decide to support her because she's female. Females don't stick together as much as some other groups do. Her being female is a perk, I suppose. But I see her gender as a non-issue. I worked for females in the past, so I don't think anything of them being in positions of leadership.

But who thinks she has the ability to make a difference, to divert this really horrible trajectory that we are on?

That's right, pretty much nobody, we know her, we know she cant do it before she even starts.

THis is a 4 year delay in mandatory reform as THE REBELLION gathers strength.

Sucks, but that be the way it is.

Sorry.

:-(
 
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I think you're expressing much of my thoughts.

I'm no fan of Hillary's personality, but I'm warming-up to her competency - and the debate exuded competency.

But she had a great object of contrast!

I'm completely blown-away by the deficiencies in Donald Trump. With his business empire, I had expected him to be a great negotiator, shrewd thinker, and having a superior public demeanor. He's turned out to be none-of-these things, and actually seems to be a buffoon! He cannot control his emotions. What the hell kind of negotiator cannot control his emotions, or grasp the basic nuances of prevailing in open discussion? He can't even think on his feet!

I'm wondering if his wealth is actually less than claimed, and he's essentially a house of cards?

Perhaps even worse: He may be an example of how in a capitalistic society, inherited capital can allow those with inferior labor to far exceed those who have competent labor - but are themselves lacking capital. I've run into a few of the former, through business.



And you put words to my thoughts. I had expected him to display this alleged "business acumen", showing some strategy. After him boasting early on, I expected him to strategically announce a kind of "shadow cabinet", thereby actually doing what he has been claiming and that is change politics.

Instead we got "The Apprentice" on steroids and a campaign based on fear, creating it, working it, manipulating it, turning the process into a TV show without much intended comedy. More and more I hear that his whole purpose, the decision maker was the roasting Obama gave him a good roasting.

Now it also appears his failure to ensure a peaceful transition has backfired, with more and more high profile Republicans bailing on him.

I have always doubted his wealth. After the self-grandizing of this campaign, I am more and more inclined to believe he really did need the salary from "The Apprentice." That show was aptly named, although HE is the apprentice, apprentice human being.
 
Try again.



Ok, but you did sound rather smug about this whole situation.

I am obviously a Hillary supporter. We only had two to choose from. She is the only adult choice. I WOULD have considered a serious Republican candidate, but there was only Trump, who, IMO, is not fit to be President.
 
Like Chomsky, your post sums up closely how I feel about Clinton. I'll never be overly fond of her. In the end, that isn't as important as the ability to do the job. I don't even like some of her positions. But at least she does have the interest of the country at heart, I believe, and is capable of being a mature, calm, capable leader who won't get us into a nuclear war and will not be a puppet for a foreign leader. I do think she's made of steel, even though she's female. She's been dealing with unprecedented personal attacks for decades, now. Doesn't hurt that she's a hard worker with a lot of experience under her belt, and a wealth of background knowledge on which to make reasoned decisions (recognizing I won't like some of her decisions).

BTW, even though I'm female, I did not decide to support her because she's female. Females don't stick together as much as some other groups do. Her being female is a perk, I suppose. But I see her gender as a non-issue. I worked for females in the past, so I don't think anything of them being in positions of leadership.


Speaking of gender, she is despised by women here for her support of Bill in the Lewinski case and her turning on Lewinski. One of the leading columnists here wrote: "....is a gender dinosaur, piggy-backing on the work" of true feminists in the 70's and 80's. But then we were OK with a woman Prime Minister in the 80's and we have had women provincial premiers for a few decades. I always figured Hilary would have been wise to spend some time with our own premier, Cristy Clark who had a negative 22 % rating heading into her first election and premier three and a half years ago and won an increased majority.

I also have to give her this, while Trump has been whining about "they're out to get me", she is the one who has been through everything the Republicans could throw at her, inquest after inquest and she stood firm and sure as hell performed better than Trump would have.
 
I am obviously a Hillary supporter. We only had two to choose from. She is the only adult choice. I WOULD have considered a serious Republican candidate, but there was only Trump, who, IMO, is not fit to be President.

He is unfit and she is reprehensible. I will vote for neither. I recognize nonetheless that it's time we had a woman President. I will therefore write in Mrs. Hays. She's been my C-in-C for decades.
 
I am obviously a Hillary supporter. We only had two to choose from. She is the only adult choice. I WOULD have considered a serious Republican candidate, but there was only Trump, who, IMO, is not fit to be President.

Compared to Trump, who wouldn't you support?

Clinton was force fed to the country by the Democratic Party establishment, and now most of the country essentially feels it has no choice but to accept it, and you're smug about that?
 
And Whiny Donald did indeed leave the building immediately without comment, while Madame President hung around for quite awhile bantering with the press. I think that says it all, concerning which candidates believed they prevailed earlier.

But I must say this: That was Hillary's best of the three debates, and she was a marvelous performer last night, in total command of the facts and the stage. A pretty remarkable performance, in that she adroitly deflected everything thrown at her, while being extremely well prepared at performing well executed attacks on Trump. And all the while looking calm, poised, dignified, and Presidential - and I even might add go as far to add 'graceful'.

She managed to immediately tie most of her comments to the demographic of women that she needs to keep in her fold, and away from Trump. I believe she was highly successful in that, and that was he game-plan.

I know this election is depressing, but lay off the whiskey. My god.
 
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