Affirmative Action is NOT Discrimination

[AGENT J]

Already answered.

another posted lie and another dodge
Are you honestly claiming AA is not about denying discrimination and doesnt specifically also mention color, religion, sex, national origin and disabilities? YES or NO

 

[Jack Hays]

Nice try but you already proved your claim to be a lie. What you wrote just now doesn't even make sense. I love it though, its nothing but desperation but it wont work. You got caught posting something factually not true and you cant change that now. Whether you admit it or not. Facts, links, definitions and laws all prove your statement to be 100% false. Why do you post lies?

Now you're just ranting. AA is always discrimination or it wouldn't be AA.

 

[Lord of Planar]

On the contrary, both are true. AA is always about discrimination regardless of the category, and without race-based decision making there could be no AA. Just as there could be no AA without gender based decision making, etc.

I didn't used to be, but became that. Statistics were kept and over the years more and more pressure was exerted to get a balance of targeted classes. That scrutiny created it's own monsters.

 

[AGENT J]

That doesn't address what I have said.

Going to stay with the low hanging fruit? Maybe yo should reach higher.

1) Poor question AA doesn't have to be racial.

2) Probable yes, today. No originally.

so your answers are
1.) no
2.) yes

thanks, so you agree with facts :shrug:

 

[Jack Hays]

another posted lie and another dodge
Are you honestly claiming AA is not about denying discrimination and doesnt specifically also mention color, religion, sex, national origin and disabilities? YES or NO

Already answered yes.

 

[AGENT J]

Now you're just ranting. AA is always discrimination or it wouldn't be AA.

Deflection swont work either, your statemen got exposed, owned and proved to be 100% factuall wrong. This is why you wont answer my questio either, thanks for playing LOL

 

[Lord of Planar]

so your answers are
1.) no
2.) yes

thanks, so you agree with facts :shrug:

Your Utopian facts are not reality.

 

[Jack Hays]

Deflection swont work either, your statemen got exposed, owned and proved to be 100% factuall wrong. This is why you wont answer my questio either, thanks for playing LOL

Already answered several times, not that it matters.

 

[AGENT J]

Already answered yes.

WOW!!!!!! LMAO
so AA doesn't include and mention color, religion sex national origin or race????? :lamo:lamo:lamo
thank you for proving how tremendously dishonest and severely topically uneducated your claim is. It will never be taken seriously by anybody honest educated and objective.

lets take a look at facts

Facts on Executive Order 11246 — Affirmative Action

Taken together, these laws ban discrimination and require Federal contractors and subcontractors to take affirmative action to ensure that all individuals have an equal opportunity for employment, without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability or status as a Vietnam era or special disabled veteran.

and there you have it, your statement is 100% false, you're welcome :lol:

 

[AGENT J]

Your Utopian facts are not reality.

LOL they arent my facts they just are facts. are you changing your answer now? cause that would be HILARIOUS.

 

[Grim17]

thats exactly why AA by definition isnt racist or discriminatory

AA when put into practice, does result in racial discrimination and there's no getting around it.

When a person is refused consideration for employment, college entrance, or even a bank loan, and it's based only on their race, that is by definition "racial discrimination"... and last time I checked the dictionary, racial discrimination is one of the primary definitions for "racism".

A person can have any opinion they like.... but when that opinion contradicts the facts, it's an opinion without merit.

Since everything I said on this post is 100% factual, well....


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[Lord of Planar]

WOW!!!!!! LMAO
so AA doesn't include and mention color, religion sex national origin or race????? :lamo:lamo:lamo
thank you for proving how tremendously dishonest and severely topically uneducated your claim is. It will never be taken seriously by anybody honest educated and objective.

lets take a look at facts

Facts on Executive Order 11246 — Affirmative Action

Taken together, these laws ban discrimination and require Federal contractors and subcontractors to take affirmative action to ensure that all individuals have an equal opportunity for employment, without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability or status as a Vietnam era or special disabled veteran.

and there you have it, your statement is 100% false, you're welcome :lol:

Are you under the impression that it didn't change since President Kennedy issued it?

 

[AGENT J]

Are you under the impression that it didn't change since President Kenned issued it?

??? good grief where did i even hint at something so nonsensical?

 

[Jack Hays]

WOW!!!!!! LMAO
so AA doesn't include and mention color, religion sex national origin or race????? :lamo:lamo:lamo
thank you for proving how tremendously dishonest and severely topically uneducated your claim is. It will never be taken seriously by anybody honest educated and objective.

lets take a look at facts



and there you have it, your statement is 100% false, you're welcome :lol:

Already posted multiple times AA claims to fight discrimination with more discrimination. Your question is, as I said, dishonest.

 

[Lord of Planar]

LOL they arent my facts they just are facts. are you changing your answer now? cause that would be HILARIOUS.

What I mean is though reverse discrimination was made illegal, it still occurs. The law does not prevent things from happening.

I think everyone else understood what I meant, when considering my past posts.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)AA when put into practice, does result in racial discrimination and there's no getting around it.
2.)When a person is refused consideration for employment, college entrance, or even a bank loan, and it's based only on their race, that is by definition "racial discrimination"... and last time I checked the dictionary, racial discrimination is one of the primary definitions for "racism".
3.)A person can have any opinion they like.... but when that opinion contradicts the facts, it's an opinion without merit.
4.) Since everything I said on this post is 100% factual, well....


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1.) what people choose to do because of it is of no concern of mine. Taxes and marriages exist results in people cheating on them, laws result in people breaking them, doesnt change the definition of them
2.) correct, good thing AA doesnt allow that by definition
3.) also correct thats why AA is what is is and anything outside of said definition is not, hence why the statement i pointed out early was proven to be 100% wrong
4.) i agree and none of what you said changes my statement or the definition of AA :shrug:
happy trails

 

[AGENT J]

Already posted multiple times AA claims to fight discrimination with more discrimination. Your question is, as I said, dishonest.

Your statements were already proven wrong with facts, links definitions and laws.
your post fails

 

[Lord of Planar]

??? good grief where did i even hint at something so nonsensical?

I'm sorry.

that's the one president Johnson signed.

AA actually goes back before Kennedy.

Don't you think it's changed since the 60's?

 

[Henrin]

Guys, stop responding to Agent J.

 

[Jack Hays]

Your statements were already proven wrong with facts, links definitions and laws.
your post fails

You're delusional.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)What I mean is though reverse discrimination was made illegal, it still occurs. The law does not prevent things from happening.

2.)I think everyone else understood what I meant, when considering my past posts.

1.)well I know its become "slang" but theres no such thing as revers discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination period. I do understand the term though eventhough based on english it makes no sense.

anyways YES people do practice "reverse discrimination" and no law can prevent anything 100% I agree

2.) well same thing with me, if you read my posts i never make any such nonsensical claim that some people or orgs dont practice things and give special treatment based on race, gender, etc etc. they most certainly do. Thats reality.
But the fact remains if they are, no matter what they call it, its not AA :shrug:

just like the people that bomb abortion clinics dont represent Christians even if they claim to be . . its a very simple concept.

 

[AGENT J]

You're delusional.

Personal attack wont change anything, they only further amplify that you have no honest or logical path to take to defend your failed claim.
Your statements were already proven wrong with facts, links definitions and laws. Your post fails.

 

[Jack Hays]

Personal attack wont change anything, they only further amplify that you have no honest or logical path to take to defend your failed claim.
Your statements were already proven wrong with facts, links definitions and laws. Your post fails.

False and still without credibility. AA is discrimination. Without discrimination there is no AA.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Johnson's modification to AA is where the quota based system started. I has changed over the years, but not having the proper mix of classes was a violation of government contract:

Executive Order 11246--Equal employment opportunity

 

[AGENT J]

I'm sorry.

that's the one president Johnson signed.

AA actually goes back before Kennedy.

Don't you think it's changed since the 60's?

again where did i even hint at the idea its never changed?? I believe its most recent change was 2002?? not sure about that dont qoute me.