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Society is stupid. Masturbation does not give you hairy palms. If you stick your tongue out your face will not freeze like that. Society attaches stigmas to thousands of things that are totally harmless. Society doesn't mind if you ban things that they disapprove of, they aren't smart enough to understand that they could be next. Laws should protect people from society, not the other way around.
It shouldn't matter what is twisted to you or to me, because everyone has a different idea. What should matter is the actual real world effects of your actions. Chuck Berry hiding video cameras in public toilets should be illegal. But if a porn star wants to get paid for crapping on someone then what does it hurt?
You're still legally free to do whatever, but society may impose some penalty on you for being a deviant. Sometimes society can go overboard and create a very oppressive enviroment. But let's not pretend that we want to live in a world where nothing is looked down upon.
Jesus ****ing christ, who the **** do you think you are?
But that's not true. The way the Supreme Court has interpreted the first amendment means that society has to accept your speech for it to be protected. The stigmas have a way of becoming laws.If you read my post, several times I state clearly that I do not support government banning of such materials. I don't feel comfortable with government enforcing subjective values. People should be free to express themselves in any manner they see fit provided it does not harm someone else (hence slander, libel, and yelling fire in a crowded theater are not protect forms of expression).
However, people are also free to stigmatize certain behaviors. If enough people agree that a certain behavior deserves to be stigmatized, then society enforces that stigma without the need for government intervention. You're still legally free to do whatever, but society may impose some penalty on you for being a deviant. Sometimes society can go overboard and create a very oppressive enviroment. But let's not pretend that we want to live in a world where nothing is looked down upon.
But that's not true. The way the Supreme Court has interpreted the first amendment means that society has to accept your speech for it to be protected. The stigmas have a way of becoming laws.
I know I'm a rare individual but I for one do want to live in a world without shame, where nothing is looked down upon. Why is public nudity bad? Why is masturbation bad? Why is prostitution bad? Why is sodomy bad? Why is pedophilia bad? Why is incest bad? I don't do most of these things myself but I don't think they are harmful to society or to myself if someone else chooses to.
I am tired of thread-jackers and their shinanigans.
But that's not true. The way the Supreme Court has interpreted the first amendment means that society has to accept your speech for it to be protected. The stigmas have a way of becoming laws.
I know I'm a rare individual but I for one do want to live in a world without shame, where nothing is looked down upon. Why is public nudity bad? Why is masturbation bad? Why is prostitution bad? Why is sodomy bad? Why is pedophilia bad? Why is incest bad? I don't do most of these things myself but I don't think they are harmful to society or to myself if someone else chooses to.
How about all you idealists stop trying to use the government or your own social stigmas against realists for not pertaining to YOUR world view.
Sexual activity between two consenting adults CANNOT be criminalized. Florida is out of line and needs to be delt with in the most severe and costly method possible.
Never. Not even in the face of Armageddon.
Never. Not even in the face of Armageddon.
Then there will be a conflict. You will not get your way unopposed.
But that's not true. The way the Supreme Court has interpreted the first amendment means that society has to accept your speech for it to be protected. The stigmas have a way of becoming laws.
I know I'm a rare individual but I for one do want to live in a world without shame, where nothing is looked down upon. Why is public nudity bad? Why is masturbation bad? Why is prostitution bad? Why is sodomy bad? Why is incest bad? I don't do most of these things myself but I don't think they are harmful to society or to myself if someone else chooses to.
I would argue that the public does accept hate speech. If there is a legal way to declare pornography obscene then the same argument should work against the KKK. There is nothing in the first amendment that specifically excludes sex or excretory functions, though those are what we most often consider obscene. The same interpretation would work against racist speech or anything else society is against. The simple fact is the KKK is more accepted in our society than a scat film.The public isn't required to accept it for it to be legal. If that were the case, the white supremist assholes from North Dakota, Montana, Nebraska, and Northern Idaho would've all been jailed long ago.
Sexual activity between two consenting adults CANNOT be criminalized. Florida is out of line and needs to be delt with in the most severe and costly method possible.
Yeah I edited out the 'pedophile' part because I didn't want this to turn into the same old argument from the other thread. Apparently I didn't do it fast enough.Who didn't see that coming? Anyone? Anyone? Bueler?
Yes. You're a rare one. Keep hoping for your utopia, along with a world completely without conflict, and one where everyone loves each other and its rainbow and flowers. People are free to be idealists, they're more than welcome too. Here's a crazy thought though...
How about all you idealists stop trying to use the government or your own social stigmas against realists for not pertaining to YOUR world view. Or is that kind of thing only bad when its done for things YOU think are wrong?
Of course it's a matter of opinion, all books are. But since rape fantasies are the number one female fantasy, there's apparently something to it.
And the fantasy has nothing to do with actual rape. It has to do with removing feelings of guilt, scorn, and disdain associated with wanting to have sex with someone.
Her comment related to the topic. If you don't like what someone says or don't agree with it, feel free to not reply. :2wave:
No, it was not.
You are dismissed.
Oh.
I guess since I never experienced those feelings, I don't have a need to have them "removed".
Guilt and sex in the same sentence? Does not compute. :lol:
.....yep, seems I'm right.
This comment proves that your beliefs are all about invading people's privacy and right to their own sex lives. Stay out.
I am tired of thread-jackers and their shinanigans.
Can anyone tell me why it's any of your damn business what I watch in the privacy of my own home? Anyone?
I am tired of thread-jackers and their shinanigans.
Cause my porn stash is boring, what have you got over there?
Korimyr is an admitted fascist.
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