:laughat: Duplicitous report? Ha, ha, ha!
It is ridiculous to assume anything is being hidden.
Well then I suppose they can fill out the forms in full then.
Brown was 35 feet away from the cruiser when he dropped face down ... that much we do know. Wilson never lost control of his weapon. He could have easily had the time to draw his Taser while the kids ran that far away.
Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.
30 seconds.....omfg
i was ****ing slow
and my 40 yd dash time was 5.65 seconds as a 300 lb lineman
that is 4x the distance.....
35 feet can be covered in 2-3 seconds by even a slow runner
All police training protocols call for only non-deadly force to be used when pursuing an un-armed suspect on foot.All right, I've had about enough of your nonsense...Time for you to back up the ridiculous things you've been saying in here, and the other threads.
Here you mention 'timing'.... What are you talking about? Is there some significance to the day, time of day, month, etc...?
You talk of the "open space", and "distance" as if 35 feet is enough to warrant hesitation from an officer whom may, or may not have been just accosted by the suspect seconds earlier, and possibly injured, and had his weapon attempted to have been taken from him. And you and others speak of this as though he had a 'taser' available to him. Do you know for a fact that ALL police officers in Ferguson are issued tasers? Or that this officer, Wilson had one? Not to mention that if the reports are true, that Brown broke Wilson's eye socket was broken in the attack, and his weapon was gone for, then I'd be pretty confident in saying that at that point tasing a dangerous felon like Brown was out of the question. The training in that situation I would think is to bring the suspect into custody, and to treat him as a deadly threat to the officers life. Especially if the officer is being charged at a second time by the suspect.
As for your absolutely absurd contention that Wilson is some violent, out of control cop, bent on murder, and not in control of his rage at being attacked. That is based on what exactly? All reports about this officer are of a completely measured man in total control of not only his emotions, but a professional on the job...
So how do you square these reports with the laughable rhetoric you are posting?
The bolded part is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from Wilson's actions ignoring the procedural protocols of pursuit on foot down a busy street.Of course you can back up that bolded part.
With that much experience he should know the protocols for foot pursuit of an un-armed man down the middle of a busy street at noon.No, he can't...Nothing points to this particular police officer as being anything buy a well measured, controlled, and solid cop...One of the many good ones...Not even one complaint in 4 years in that force.
Sounds like a fairy tale to me.Ok,
Let try to reconstruct in a general sense what happened while giving Officer Wilson the most favorable spin possible:
The encounter
- Brown and his friend are sauntering down the middle of the street. Brown is pumped up and juiced up after having pulled off a strong arm robbery
-Wilson, unaware of the strong arm robbery, gives Brown a legitimate order to get out of the middle of the street
-Brown refuses to comply, Wilson returns to Brown
The Attack
-Brown then suddenly attacks Wilson in his car. He quickly overcomes any resistance from Wilson, reaches over Wilson and tries to get his pistol on his right side.
-Wilson, in fear for his life, fires a shot at Brown.
The Attack part II
-Brown retreats a good distance. Then, he reverses course, and suddenly charges Wilson.
- Wilson is unable to call for back up,a nd there is no time to yell a warning at Brown.
-In fear for his life, Wilson resumes firing at Brown.
-Brown ignores several bullet impacts fired from a large calibre service weapon, lowers his head and keeps charging Wilson until he is dropped.
Given that Brown was not high on PCP, how likely is this?
Six shots against an un-armed man?Nothing in Wilson's professional life and nothing in his personal life gives any credence to Buck's accusation.
Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.
Six shots against an un-armed man?
Sound like rage to me.
Wilson lost his deadly threat status when he ran away from the cruiser ...and the gun he never got hold of.No, it was most likely a .40 Calibre weapon loaded with hollow point ammunition (most police departments no longer use 9mm)
Yet, that is evidently exaclty what Wilson did. Wilson fired one round in the car, very close range, and then fired several more when Brown was considerably further away.
A police officer is trained to shoot until the target is no longer a deadly threat. This can mean "on the ground"- espescially when applied to an armed threat. Or, in the case of an unarmed man, it could mean (depending on a variety of circumstances) that they are no longer approaching the officer.
Wilson lost his deadly threat status when he ran away from the cruiser ...and the gun he never got hold of.
Something made him jerk his body as he ran ...At least three different eye-witnesses saw that happen.Agreed. And further, much is being made of the "grazing" wound on Brown's arm. That the determination by Brown supporters is that this concludes that he was fired at while running away. See, I don't buy that. I think that came from the discharge of the weapon in the car during the fight for the gun.
Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.
Composing awful rap lyrics and shoplifting cigars are not capital offenses.Yes, that is true. And other evidence (strong arm robbery, rap lyrics suggesting sexual dominance) indicate that Brown may not be the "gentle giant" of legend and lore.
Even still, given the totality of circumstances, I would want some additional evidence, other than the officers word alone, that this shooting was truly necessarry.
So far, the officer has injuries to his face in addition to his word. This does not truly show that the shooting was necessarry though.
Something made him jerk his body as he ran ...At least three different eye-witnesses saw that happen.
That wound was determined by the forensic autopsy analysis to have been received either from the front or the back.
Tasers are standard issue for all police forces. Show me that he didn't have one.Show me that Wilson even had a taser.
Ikari, I am confident that you know how investigations work, and how evidence is preserved for a grand jury...Aren't you?
The bolded part is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from Wilson's actions ignoring the procedural protocols of pursuit on foot down a busy street.
Six shots against an un-armed man?
Sound like rage to me.
All police training protocols call for only non-deadly force to be used when pursuing an un-armed suspect on foot.
If Wilson was such an even tempered good cop he would know this and act accordingly.
Brown would have had to run 40 feet away to be bum rushing back and still be dropped 35 feet from the cruiser.
How long for a professional cop to holster his piece and pull his Taser?
Don't even try to tell me that Ferguson cops have all that high tech SWAT equipment on their force and can't afford Tasers for their patrolmen.
Tasers are pretty much standard equipment for all cops these days.
Ask any cop.
Wilson had from the moment the kids ran away wile he was still sitting in the car util Brown ran at least 40 feet , stopped turned and got going full speed back at him. Keep in mind that Brown weighed 300 pounds was a smoker and just had a struggle with a cop before he started running.Thats about the 10 yard line on a football field. Certainly not enough time to draw a different weapon, get it ready and aimed, then fire and hope it is enough to stop him. The first few gunshots didn't stop him, what makes you think a taser would have dropped him, assuming it even connected?
Nah, the taser argument just doesn't make sense.
I still believe this guy was looking for a confrontation with the police.
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