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Accused Texas gunman Francisco Oropesa reportedly had ‘death cult’ shrine

Actually, the Santa Muerte is commonly "worshiped" by gang members in Mexico. Who beg for her protection from other drug cartels and law enforcement.

And there have even been connections made between the almost ritualistic killings of some gangs (like hanging decapitated bodies from freeways) and the cults.

However, a sizeable minority of worshipers follow the fully criminalized variant of Santa Muerte worship steeped in narcocultura. The harsher version has gained popularity in Mexico as the criminal insurgencies taking place in the country have spread and intensified. For most of the cartels’ foot soldiers and their gang associates, brutal deaths prove almost certain. Such a form of imminent mortality facing adherents makes the worship of Santa Muerte spiritually dark. The death of someone’s enemies, protection from harm (or, at least, hope for a quick and glorious death), cultivation of a dangerous reputation, and ability to enjoy the benefits of fabulous riches—including the company of beautiful women—become paramount. With the stakes so high, the sacrifices and offerings to Santa Muerte have become primeval and barbaric. Rather than plates of food, beer, and tobacco, in some instances, the heads of victims (and presumably their souls) have served as offerings to invoke powerful petitions for divine intervention.

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That was something we heard reported almost every day on the radio when I lived in El Paso. Juarez was right across the river, and it seemed like every two or three days there were reports like this on the radio. It was almost a local joke, as they would actually be reported like it was just a traffic report.

"Avoid such a such highway as police are cleaning up the scene after finding six decapitated bodies hung from the overpass in the early morning."

Kind of like how they would report finding three bodies in the desert north of town, "but suspected no gang activity". I always found it amazing that in El Paso they worked hard to prevent the locals from ever connecting murders on the north side of the border with the cartels.
 
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The illegal immigrant from Mexico who allegedly gunned down five of his Texas neighbors reportedly had a “death cult” shrine in his bedroom – where candles were still seen burning two days after the massacre.

A law enforcement source who saw the scene told the Center for Immigration Studies that Francisco Oropesa’s elaborate shrine honored the “Santa Muerte death cult.”

The shrine of Nuestra Señora de la Santa Muerte, as it is formally called, included several statues of patron saints, a stack of $2 bills, flowers and tinfoil filled with an apparent drug – ostensibly offerings to protect the accused killer.
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Do we need any more reasons to ban assault rifles?
Sounds like a reason to start repressing demonic spirituality, and start imprisoning people who come back after deportation.
 
Actually, the Santa Muerte is commonly "worshiped" by gang members in Mexico. Who beg for her protection from other drug cartels and law enforcement.

And there have even been connections made between the almost ritualistic killings of some gangs (like hanging decapitated bodies from freeways) and the cults.


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That was something we heard reported almost every day on the radio when I lived in El Paso. Juarez was right across the river, and it seemed like every two or three days there were reports like this on the radio. It was almost a local joke, as they would actually be reported like it was just a traffic report.

"Avoid such a such highway as police are cleaning up the scene after finding six decapitated bodies hung from the overpass in the early morning."

Kind of like how they would report finding three bodies in the desert north of town, "but suspected no gang activity". I always found it amazing that in El Paso they worked hard to prevent the locals from ever connecting murders on the north side of the border with the cartels.
We need to realize the founders never intended to protect the demonic with the first amendment and we Can criminalize these cults and use repression against practioners which will also take criminals off the street
 
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We need to realize the founders never intended to protect the demonic with the first amendment and we Can criminalize these cults and use repression against practioners which will also take criminals off the street
As long as any cult doesn't violate secular law or cause harm, they are free to do or believe what they want as much as you. Religious freedom and all that.
 
Sounds like a reason to start repressing demonic spirituality, and start imprisoning people who come back after deportation.
By that logic, we should start repressing Christian religions because of pedophile priests and pastoral child molesters. Such individuals should be imprisoned, or worse.
 
Sounds like a reason to start repressing demonic spirituality, and start imprisoning people who come back after deportation.

Actually, the Santa Muerte "cult" itself is not demonic. A lot of it is actually not all that far removed from many Catholic practices in the region. However, the extreme members (especially the cartel members) have taken it in a much darker and actually homicidal way.

In essence, saying the belief itself is "demonic" would be like saying all Pentecostal religions are like the Jim Jones People's Temple.
 
UK and Australia may indeed have lots of reasonable people, they're just not American. That in itself isn't a bad thing, it just means they simply can't understand having Constitutional protections to protect us from the Government.

OTA ( Other Than Americans ) are puzzled when someone refuses to subjugate themselves to Government control efforts, and there is just no way to explain it to them.
What a load of crap. America lies low on every list of personal freedom.
I once stood on a corner in Seattle, Washington and played a game with myself, tried to name every government agency that could arrest me. Seattle city police, King County sheriff, Washington State police, Washington Bureau of Investigation, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Agency, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, I finally gave up.
You guys are subjugated by more government control efforts than anyone else in the 'free' world.
 
What a load of crap. America lies low on every list of personal freedom.
I once stood on a corner in Seattle, Washington and played a game with myself, tried to name every government agency that could arrest me. Seattle city police, King County sheriff, Washington State police, Washington Bureau of Investigation, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Agency, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, I finally gave up.
You guys are subjugated by more government control efforts than anyone else in the 'free' world.

Thank goodness for inefficiency and incompetence. Else we could be like some places where they only have one or two policing organizations, but they're ruthless and proficient.
 
Thank goodness for inefficiency and incompetence. Else we could be like some places where they only have one or two policing organizations, but they're ruthless and proficient.
RCMP. That's the only police organization where I live. Federal, Provincial and local. If I lived in a city, say Vancouver, it would be the VPD and if I was a subject of a combined investigation it would be VPD and RCMP.
That's it. Law enforcement in British Columbia. Two provinces, Ontario and Quebec have provincial police instead of RCMP.
Proficient? Yeah, probably. Ruthless? Not so much. Unless you kill one of them.
 
UK and Australia may indeed have lots of reasonable people, they're just not American. That in itself isn't a bad thing, it just means they simply can't understand having Constitutional protections to protect us from the Government.

OTA ( Other Than Americans ) are puzzled when someone refuses to subjugate themselves to Government control efforts, and there is just no way to explain it to them.
We don't have a gun culture here. The average Australian has never owned, nor has any desire to own a gun. You can't compare the two Countries.

I'm only going to speak for myself here. I have no issue with you owning guns. You might like to hunt, you might need to protect you loved ones if need be. I can understand that and I respect your wishes. You have so much violence there.

You mentioned that we can't understand having Constitutional protections to protect you from the Government. Considering you don’t live in a tyranny and your President isn’t a totalitarian dictator, it is a little difficult to actually comprehend that folks honestly believe that is where their Country is heading. It seems nuts to me.

That being said...

Ordinary folks resisting a modern day army which possess overwhelmingly powerful capabilities is likely not going to end well.

Waco showed you what happens when you try to resist the Government.

I'm not saying just roll over. I just can't see it coming to that.

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What a load of crap. America lies low on every list of personal freedom.
I once stood on a corner in Seattle, Washington and played a game with myself, tried to name every government agency that could arrest me.

No....that is just wrong.

Just because they have arresting authority doesn't mean that anyone is losing the freedoms.

The Bill of Rights is there for a reason.
 
What a load of crap. America lies low on every list of personal freedom.
I once stood on a corner in Seattle, Washington and played a game with myself, tried to name every government agency that could arrest me. Seattle city police, King County sheriff, Washington State police, Washington Bureau of Investigation, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Agency, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, I finally gave up.
You guys are subjugated by more government control efforts than anyone else in the 'free' world.
And not one of them can lay a finger on you unless you break the law. Constitutional protections are top tier.
 
And not one of them can lay a finger on you unless you break the law. Constitutional protections are top tier.
Gimme a break.

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You understand he was breaking the law, right? Heck he was breaking a few laws.
Constitution didn't help him much, did it.
Which law did he break? Passed a bogus 20? You pretty sure you never passed a bogus 20?
 
Constitution didn't help him much, did it.
Which law did he break? Passed a bogus 20? You pretty sure you never passed a bogus 20?
Consumed a lethal dose of drugs as well. Wouldn't cooperate with law enforcement. He did it all to himself.
 
Consumed a lethal dose of drugs as well. Wouldn't cooperate with law enforcement. He did it all to himself.
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Bullshit.
If that were a dog, a German Shepherd say, with its legs bound and that cop had knelt on his neck for 8 minutes, hearing it whimper and feeling it twitch until it finally died you would damn him to hell. But it was just a black drug addict, so...
 
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Bullshit.
If that were a dog, a German Shepherd say, with its legs bound and that cop had knelt on his neck for 8 minutes, hearing it whimper and feeling it twitch until it finally died you would damn him to hell. But it was just a black drug addict, so...
Correction, just a drug addicted criminal.
 
Correction, just a drug addicted criminal.
So what about what I said? I told you that you would be mad if that cop killed a dog like that but not George Floyd. Got anything to say to that?
 
So what about what I said? I told you that you would be mad if that cop killed a dog like that but not George Floyd. Got anything to say to that?
Dog didn't do anything to deserve to die. GF did. However the cops didn't kill him, GF killed himself. With drugs.
 
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