ABORTION: What is YOUR view, what would YOU do.

[AGENT J]

No negative effects? Feh. that's a boldfaced lie. 100% of women who abort commit homicide.

A large portion of them, over half by some studies, will go on to do it again.

no the lie is your post, no matter how many times you post about homicide it will only ever be your OPINION.
and if we want to be even more honest, the WOMEN arent doing anything and then there are the rare cases where the ZEF lives due to the abortion being preformed after viability.

SO your 100% claim is the only FACTUAL lie that was posted. Its 100% do true. Please stop posting misinformation and lies because the educated and honest poster don't buy it.

As always if you disagree by all means feel free to post facts and links that support your false post.

 

[AGENT J]

You know the risks in both instances. Next argument please.

knowing the risk is not consent, i agree your argument fails so move on to the next one.

A women walking down an alley knows there is a risk of being rapped or mugged, does that mean she consents or choose to get rapped/mugged? of course not thats nonsensical and dishonest.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

knowing the risk is not consent, i agree your argument fails so move on to the next one.

A women walking down an alley knows there is a risk of being rapped or mugged, does that mean she consents or choose to get rapped/mugged? of course not thats nonsensical and dishonest.

You know good and well I was talking about the 90% of other women who consented and then got pregnant. And let's face it, a good majority of abortions are from women who fooled around and DIDN'T use contraceptives. It's their fault.

 

[OscarB63]

And let's face it, a good majority of abortions are from women who fooled around and DIDN'T use contraceptives. It's their fault.

since most BC methods are ~ 95-98% effective...if people were actually using it, there would be very little need for abortion. In the vast majority of cases... it IS their fault.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

since most BC methods are ~ 95-98% effective...if people were actually using it, there would be very little need for abortion. In the vast majority of cases... it IS their fault.

Finally someone else who is sensible.

 

[AGENT J]

You know good and well I was talking about the 90% of other women who consented and then got pregnant. And let's face it, a good majority of abortions are from women who fooled around and DIDN'T use contraceptives. It's their fault.

I do? weird the poster you addressed specifically mentioned BC and all you said was if you know the risks its your choice.

Seems you are trying to back pedal now.

either way the fact remains consent to SEX will never be consent to giving birth. This fact will never change.

Your OPINION that its their fault is meaningless.

 

[AGENT J]

AMerica is actually EXCELLENT at avoiding abortion.

Less than .1% of sex results in abortion

 

[davidtaylorjr]

I do? weird the poster you addressed specifically mentioned BC and all you said was if you know the risks its your choice.

Seems you are trying to back pedal now.

either way the fact remains consent to SEX will never be consent to giving birth. This fact will never change.

Your OPINION that its their fault is meaningless.

You have sex, you know the possibility of pregnancy. If you don't want the chance of getting pregnant, get sterilized or don't have sex. Plain and simple.

 

[AGENT J]

Finally someone else who is sensible.

just another opinion thats is meaningless tot he debate :shrug:

 

[davidtaylorjr]

just another opinion thats is meaningless tot he debate :shrug:

Kinda like this comment.

 

[AGENT J]

You have sex, you know the possibility of pregnancy. If you don't want the chance of getting pregnant, get sterilized or don't have sex. Plain and simple.

yep if you walk down the alley you know theres a possiblity of getting mugged, killed, rapped.

If you dont want to get mugged killed or rapped dont leave tyour house, plain and simple.

Sorry thats just broken logic.

Risk is meaningless to the debate unless of course you are suggesting that people should only have sex for procreation. Thats just irrational.

 

[AGENT J]

Kinda like this comment.

nope my comment points out the fact that your opinion of who is at fault is meaningless to the abortion debate. Its both on topic and relevant.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

yep if you walk down the alley you know theres a possiblity of getting mugged, killed, rapped.

If you dont want to get mugged killed or rapped dont leave tyour house, plain and simple.

Sorry thats just broken logic.

Risk is meaningless to the debate unless of course you are suggesting that people should only have sex for procreation. Thats just irrational.

Not my suggestion. My suggestion was you know the risk. If that risk becomes reality, don't cry about it. It was your choice to take the risk.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

nope my comment points out the fact that your opinion of who is at fault is meaningless to the abortion debate. Its both on topic and relevant.

Who is at fault is completely relevant.

 

[AGENT J]

Not my suggestion. My suggestion was you know the risk. If that risk becomes reality, don't cry about it. It was your choice to take the risk.

nobody is crying about it, YOU are crying about what they choose to do.Seems what you MEAN to say and what you actually say rarely match.

they choose to abort or not to abort you dont like that, it would be you crying, not them.

 

[AGENT J]

Who is at fault is completely relevant.

no its not because fault in this case is subjective and nothing but your opinion.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

nobody is crying about it, YOU are crying about what they choose to do.

they choose to abort or not to abort you dont like that, it would be you crying, not them.

No, they are upset about their actions and try to get a free way out.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

no its not because fault in this case is subjective and nothing but your opinion.

This whole thread is about opinions, read the title. What is Your view... It is supposed to be opinions.

 

[AGENT J]

No, they are upset about their actions and try to get a free way out.

its not free,its their choice and you are crying about it, nice try.

 

[AGENT J]

This whole thread is about opinions, read the title. What is Your view... It is supposed to be opinions.

I wrote the OP im aware of what its about LMAO

if you would like to answer the OP again please feel free to do so but i can still point out that you assessing blame is just an opinion. It was not asked in the OP either.
If you dont like it feel free not to post. :shrug:

 

[davidtaylorjr]

I wrote the OP im aware of what its about LMAO

if you would like to answer the OP again please feel free to do so but i can still point out that you assessing blame is just an opinion. It was not asked in the OP either.
If you dont like it feel free not to post. :shrug:

Then let me phrase it in a way that you can understand:

My opinion is that by consenting to have sex for the 90% of pregnancies that are as a direct result, it was the woman's choice and she knew the risk. Therefore she shouldn't be able to have the ability to kill human life in order to fix her indescretion and irresponsibility.

 

[OscarB63]

AMerica is actually EXCELLENT at avoiding abortion.

Less than .1% of sex results in abortion

proof? the fact is sex very rarely results in pregnancy. I saw a study that said if you take a randomly selected fertile guy and a randomly selected fertile girl and they have unprotected sex, the odds of her getting pregnant are only 2.5%. now we know that not everyone in America who is having sex is fertile and if you include gay sex, hetero anal/oral, etc... odds are pretty good that less than 1% of sex leads to pregnancy anyway.

 

[AGENT J]

Then let me phrase it in a way that you can understand:

My opinion is that by consenting to have sex for the 90% of pregnancies that are as a direct result, it was the woman's choice and she knew the risk. Therefore she shouldn't be able to have the ability to kill human life in order to fix her indescretion and irresponsibility.

you are free to have that opinion but when a person has an opinion that is factually wrong its pretty meaningless.

Consent to sex will never be consent to giving birth.

lets go further though are you saying if the women/man was on BC then you fully support abortion?

and lastly many people feel obligated by their morals and responsibility to have an abortion, does thier opinions not count? why is your opinion more important?

 

[davidtaylorjr]

you are free to have that opinion but when a person has an opinion that is factually wrong its pretty meaningless.

Consent to sex will never be consent to giving birth.

lets go further though are you saying if the women/man was on BC then you fully support abortion?

and lastly many people feel obligated by their morals and responsibility to have an abortion, does thier opinions not count? why is your opinion more important?

No, I do not support abortion on BC either. There is no BC 100% effective except for abstinence or being sterilized. Abortion is not moral so yes, as you say my opinions are meaningless, I say theirs are. It's a two-way street. You are so quick to denounce my opinion but get riled up when someone challenges yours.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)No, I do not support abortion on BC either. There is no BC 100% effective except for abstinence or being sterilized.

2.)Abortion is not moral so yes, as you say my opinions are meaningless, I say theirs are. It's a two-way street. You are so quick to denounce my opinion but get riled up when someone challenges yours.

1.) oh so your previous argument was meaningless or a hypocritical one. Nice, you asses blame and call it releveant but then admit it doesnt matter? LMAO

wow talk about destroying your own argument.

2.) what opinions? me and you havent talked about any of my opinions, try again

anyway so you value your opinions over others and want your opinons forced on others? am i understanding the correctly?