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"ABORTION NOT A HUMAN RIGHT EVEN IN CASES OF RAPE" - UN Security Council [W:231]

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davidtaylorjr said:
The laws of the land. Last I checked honor killings were not legal in the United States.
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So you equate abortion "honor killings"?
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
No, you have not seen gravity. You have seen the effects of it. Two totally different things.
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Same thing. If souls were real they too would have an effect to observe.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
No, you have not seen gravity. You have seen the effects of it. Two totally different things.
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well you can see gravity if you see a black hole up close.

of course it would be only for a few seconds and right before you are sucked in.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
I do. Yes. I also call it murder as you well know.
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Well, then, David...you do indeed have a serious conflict with current laws. But we've all been witness to that conflict between your beliefs and Constitutional and State laws since you've began posting in DP.

Even if the laws changed...it won't change the fact that women will still get abortions. You know that. But you'll support women being at risk for injury or even death...knowing that unsafe abortions significantly increase the chances.

That tells me that you simply don't honor women as equals to men.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Human nature, the human mind, and the God connection. But you admit, you have not seen gravity or the wind, yet you believe in them.
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Human nature and our minds are the result of evolution, our DNA proves it. There is no trace of a soul or the effects of it anywhere to be found and you know it. We are just a species of primate that's all. Do Chimps have souls?
 
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sangha said:
Yes, it does

Maybe you should read what the constitution says about the govts limited powers.
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On the contrary, maybe you need to learn how to read documents in the English language. And / or seek medication for schizophrenia, since you may also just be hallucinating words that don't exist.
 
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Removable Mind said:
Even if the laws changed...it won't change the fact that women will still get abortions. You know that. But you'll support women being at risk for injury or even death...knowing that unsafe abortions significantly increase the chances.

That tells me that you simply don't honor women as equals to men.
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What a ****ty, slanderous "argument."

We're talking about violent killers who belong in prison here; we don't care what their gender is. If you hurt yourself in the act of perpetrating a serious crime, like murder (the crime abortion should be, as noted in his argument), and die from it, then that's not a bad thing; it spares us having to jail such a scumbag.

It's not and never has been about gender; if someone got shot by police while robbing a bank and threatening others with a gun, we don't lament his death and try to legalize bank robbery. But that's the sort of chicanery you're trying to pull here.
 
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Removable Mind said:
Well, then, David...you do indeed have a serious conflict with current laws. But we've all been witness to that conflict between your beliefs and Constitutional and State laws since you've began posting in DP.

Even if the laws changed...it won't change the fact that women will still get abortions. You know that. But you'll support women being at risk for injury or even death...knowing that unsafe abortions significantly increase the chances.

That tells me that you simply don't honor women as equals to men.
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That isn't what that means and you know it. That is your spin on it.
 
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iguanaman said:
Human nature and our minds are the result of evolution, our DNA proves it. There is no trace of a soul or the effects of it anywhere to be found and you know it. We are just a species of primate that's all. Do Chimps have souls?
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Except evolution is not how we came to be. DNA does not prove evolution.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Except evolution is not how we came to be. DNA does not prove evolution.
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Do you know what a colonial lifeform is? And do you realize that there are 2 elements in the human cell, which life could not be proliferated without...that doesn't have human DNA?
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
So what if you are wrong and it actually happens at conception as I know to be true?
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Well, David if zygotes, embryos, or pre viable fetuses actually had souls then 80 percent would never become persons.
If It so important to protect all those souls why do think God prevents all those souls from ever seeing "the light of day " ?
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
No I have been pretty clear on my position.
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Yes, I know. The thought of a fetus getting aborted horrifies you. Again, don't like abortions? Don't have one. How hard is that?
 
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zgoldsmith23 said:
Yes, I know. The thought of a fetus getting aborted horrifies you. Again, don't like abortions? Don't have one. How hard is that?
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No it isn't that simple and it is foolish to claim that it is. I'm against the murder of innocent children. What part of that do you not understand? It is murder whether the law recognizes it or not.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
No it isn't that simple and it is foolish to claim that it is. I'm against the murder of innocent children. What part of that do you not understand? It is murder whether the law recognizes it or not.
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Yes, it is that simple. And, no, murder wouldn't exist if the law didn't. Do lions murder antelopes or zebras?
 
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zgoldsmith23 said:
Yes, it is that simple. And, no, murder wouldn't exist if the law didn't. Do lions murder antelopes or zebras?
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Lions, antelopes, and zebras are animals. We are talking about humans. But I guess you want to degrade yourself to the level of animal.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Lions, antelopes, and zebras are animals. We are talking about humans. But I guess you want to degrade yourself to the level of animal.
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We are animals. We are members of the Phylum Chordata.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Lions, antelopes, and zebras are animals. We are talking about humans. But I guess you want to degrade yourself to the level of animal.
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Humans are animals. That is why we test drugs on primates. We are primates.
 
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zgoldsmith23 said:
We are animals. We are members of the Phylum Chordata.
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Just because a bunch of boneheaded "scientists" decided that they think we come from apes and are therefore animals, doesn't make it so.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
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davidtaylorjr said:
Just because a bunch of boneheaded "scientists" decided that they think we come from apes and are therefore animals, doesn't make it so.
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This shows what? God can't be an animal, too?
 
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