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Abortion is a good thing

tshade said:
women cannot just choose to kill because they feel like it.....
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Why not? It's their choice and no one else's business either.
 
tshade said:
simply replace the word "abortion" with "murder" and see how the argument flows smoothly
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Yea, that's the part Gordy left out, not good for the human being viciously killed without voice.
 
Gordy327 said:
Why not? It's their choice and no one else's business either.
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No, the women doesn't own the child within her, she"s simply a vessel.

Not the owner, not her property. People don't own other people unless you live in a slave state.

Not her choice to destroy, kill another human being, its murder when it happens.
 
gboisjo said:
No, the women doesn't own the child within her, she"s simply a vessel.

Not the owner, not her property. People don't own other people unless you live in a slave state.

Not her choice to destroy, kill another human being, its murder when it happens.
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It's her body being used and it's not yet a child nor legally considered a person. Neither can one be compelled to have their body used to support another without consent, which is also established legal precedent. So yes, the woman does have the choice and abortion is not murder.
It's also rather telling that you consider a woman to be merely a vessel, as if she's not her own individual.
 
Gordy327 said:
It's her body being used and it's not yet a child nor legally considered a person
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We flat out disagree, just as our country is divided on the issue.

You believe one thing, I believe another, end of story.

The Supreme Court has spoke and Wade is gone, I'm good with that ..it saves lives.

My belief on the subject is scientific not political.

www.pbs.org

NOVA | Life's Greatest Miracle | Season 28 | Episode 16

Trace human development from embryo to newborn through stunning microimagery.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org
 
Gordy327 said:
What's wrong with the title?
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It ignores that most people don't believe/feel/think that abortion is good. It's backward, in ways. It's trying to say that abortion is lovely because there aren't always better alternatives. Abortion isn't lovely.
 
gboisjo said:
We flat out disagree, just as our country is divided on the issue.

You believe one thing, I believe another, end of story.

The Supreme Court has spoke and Wade is gone, I'm good with that ..it saves lives.

My belief on the subject is scientific not political.

www.pbs.org

NOVA | Life's Greatest Miracle | Season 28 | Episode 16

Trace human development from embryo to newborn through stunning microimagery.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org
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Disagree if you want. That just makes you wrong. Legally,the unborn are not legal persons with rights, unlike the pregnant woman. Scientifically, it's only an embryo/fetus in utero and is only a baby (newborn) at birth. Historically, overturning Roe will not save lives. It will oy endanger them (the pregnant woman), especially where more restrictions are in place. If you have to rely on belief, then that's hardly scientific.
 
Antiwar said:
It's in very poor taste. It ignores that most people don't believe/feel/think that abortion is good.
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Im not going to sugarcoat things to spare peoples feelings. Then they can argue the points the article makes. I've pointed out why abortion can be a good thing. So far, no one seems to have offered any rational counter argument. Al least, nothing which doesn't resort to emotional appeals.
 
tshade said:
We are ALL "developing humans" all our lives---case closed....
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You know what is meant by 'developing human.'

tshade said:
you should be forced not to kill it
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Have you watched "After Tiller"?

How would you accomplish this? How should girls and women be forced to carry their developing baby and give birth? Any ideas?
 
Irredentist said:
Some fates are worse than death. Sometimes I envy the aborted. Far better to never have been born, than to live a life of misery, pain, and suffering.
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Not your choice to make..
 
Gordy327 said:
Im not going to sugarcoat things to spare peoples feelings. Then they can argue the points the article makes. I've pointed out why abortion can be a good thing. So far, no one seems to have offered any rational counter argument. Al least, nothing which doesn't resort to emotional appeals.
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Shut up and watch the video I posted, "The Miracle of Life"

Plenty of concrete scientific information on the complexity of the unborn.
 
Gordy327 said:
Im not going to sugarcoat things to spare peoples feelings. Then they can argue the points the article makes. I've pointed out why abortion can be a good thing. So far, no one seems to have offered any rational counter argument. Al least, nothing which doesn't resort to emotional appeals.
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You seem to be trying to be devoid of what makes people human.

"A good thing" is a horrible choice of words.
 
Irredentist said:
It is if I'm a pregnant woman. Fetuses aren't capable of making their own choices. We need to make the choice for them.
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No its not ..only in a few instances such as rape.

Even then its questionable.
 
gboisjo said:
No its not ..only in a few instances such as rape.

Even then its questionable.
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Who's questioning it? You? Why should we care what you think? Why should anyone's opinion matter other than the woman who is physically gestating that pregnancy inside of her uterus?
 
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