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Abortion...and the pro-life stance

Whats your history

  • Pro Choice...no abortion experience

    Votes: 14 43.8%

  • Pro Life...no abortion experience

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • Pro Choice...abortion experience

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • Pro Life...abortion experience

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other...please explain

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Total voters
    32
tecoyah

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Perhaps I am imagining things, but it seems to me the pre-dominant Pro-Life activists on this board are the very people who have experience with an actual abortion. I might be mistaken, but it would be interesting to gather such data as possible on this phenomenon, I will make a nameless poll to protect the innocent.
 
Have never, would never have an abortion. Easy to say since I'm fixed and been celibate for 15 years.

I would becomed armed and revolutionary, should the right for other women to make the best choice for themselves was ever threatened. My choice is for me, American values of freedom and individuality say that every woman should make her own choice. And I will defend to the best of my abilities for others to choose differently than I choose for myself.
 
tecoyah said:
Perhaps I am imagining things, but it seems to me the pre-dominant Pro-Life activists on this board are the very people who have experience with an actual abortion. I might be mistaken, but it would be interesting to gather such data as possible on this phenomenon, I will make a nameless poll to protect the innocent.
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Only dough-girl, and she's no longer active.
And, I suppose, Jerry, who's no longer very active either.

Most of the people here with firsthand abortion experience are prochoice.
Perhaps it's just that we don't argue so zealously or post so obsessively on the issue as the prolife contingent does.
But the main two posters in the abortion forum these days are okgrannie (prochoice) and Felicity (prolife), neither of whom have terminated a pregnancy.
 
Well, back in the day I used to support mandatory abortions for all pregnancies not authorized by the state. Said license to have children, IMO, should have had a number of strict requirements such as minimum income, education and psychological health standards. Violations, even if accidental, which for what ever reason were not aborted, IMO, should have resulted in the parents being charged with a class 5 felony and Tubal Ligation/Vasectomy (because you either should not have been risking a pregnancy or you should have aborted). All of this was in the name of over population, Global Cooling (as it was called at the time; now that fad is called Global Worming) and the apparent trend of parents not knowing how to parent.

For many years now, however, I have supported the ban of all abortion which does not endanger the mother's life, even in the event of rape or incest. Though I subscribe to the core PL theory, I realize that first-term abortion will never be banned regardless and that the rape and incest exceptions must be given in order to pass any regulation on abortion at all; and so I give those exceptions in debate. I am no longer concerned about overpopulation as I now know how things are going to go.....that and I got a life.

I supported the abortion of 2 of my children.

I supported the right-to-live of 2 of my children later in life.

I lost 1 child to miscarriage, but that's neither here nor there for this poll.

I supported the right to live for an additional 2 children, who live with me today.

Any questions?
 
Jerry said:
Well, back in the day I used to support mandatory abortions for all pregnancies not authorized by the state.
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Dude....this cracked me up for like 10 mins.

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Personally I have issues with abortion and the way it's carried out in modern times. But my issues with it stop shot of telling other people what to do with their lives. I think there should be a limit to how many abortions women can have but you won't see me writing to Leahy or Sanders about it.
 
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Hatuey said:
Dude....this cracked me up for like 10 mins.

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Personally I have issues with abortion and the way it's carried out in modern times. But my issues with it stop shot of telling other people what to do with their lives. I think there should be a limit to how many abortions women can have but you won't see me writing to Leahy or Sanders about it.
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So you won't be trying to tell me not to bar others from obtaining an abortion, right? If you did, you would be telling me what to do with my life, and you wouldn't do that, right? Right.
 
tecoyah said:
Perhaps I am imagining things, but it seems to me the pre-dominant Pro-Life activists on this board are the very people who have experience with an actual abortion. I might be mistaken, but it would be interesting to gather such data as possible on this phenomenon, I will make a nameless poll to protect the innocent.
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I've personally known a handful of people who've had abortions and heard from them about their experiences, some extremely positive, some seemed to have lingering effects on mental health, and one absolute nightmare that resulted in 1 aborted twin and one born twin. But I myself have never had an abortion.
 
Jerry said:
So you won't be trying to tell me not to bar others from obtaining an abortion, right? If you did, you would be telling me what to do with my life, and you wouldn't do that, right? Right.
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You would have a right to tell them and they have the right to ignore you.
 
talloulou said:
Of course. Pretty much applies to anything. You can lead a horse to water....
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Don't force him or you will be attacked by PETA activists. :shock:

To keep this thread on track...

I am Pro-Choice, I have experience with abortion, and I could never imagine my wife having an abortion at this stage in my life or in the future. No matter my views on if abortion is OK or not I would never agree that my opinions should be forced on others.
 
Im pro-choice but have not experienced taking someone to an abortion clinic Im very cautious when I have relations with my girlfriend. I dont believe the procedure should be tax payer funded, we all make mistakes in this world but I dont believe the tax payer should pay for it.
 
Gibberish said:
You would have a right to tell them and they have the right to ignore you.
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Oh, you think I only tell individuals who are considering an abortion, and not supporting/voting-for/writing politicians who can pass law and appoint judges to that end.

Well, yes, I suppose those people could ignore me, but when PL is already their political position, I see no reason why they would ignore their constituency.
 
Gibberish said:
Don't force him or you will be attacked by PETA activists. :shock:

To keep this thread on track...

I am Pro-Choice, I have experience with abortion, and I could never imagine my wife having an abortion at this stage in my life or in the future. No matter my views on if abortion is OK or not I would never agree that my opinions should be forced on others.
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So if you were to hold the opinion that a parent should be barred from stopping their minor child from seeking an abortion, you wouldn't force that opinion of yours onto the parent? Okay, I can respect that.
 
I am absolutely in favor of retroactive abortion for some people.
 
Jerry said:
So if you were to hold the opinion that a parent should be barred from stopping their minor child from seeking an abortion, you wouldn't force that opinion of yours onto the parent? Okay, I can respect that.
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But what if you do not hold the opinion that no people should not be forced to not do nothing that does not result in the doing of nothingness?

What about then, huh?
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Im pro-choice but have not experienced taking someone to an abortion clinic Im very cautious when I have relations with my girlfriend. I dont believe the procedure should be tax payer funded, we all make mistakes in this world but I dont believe the tax payer should pay for it.
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Hmm, now here you and I have common ground. If we are going to keep abortion, why should I be *forced against my will* to pay for it?

Her body, her choice, right? Well, my money, my choice. If I want to help young girls who choose to have an abortion but can't afford it, I will donate to an appropriate 501c3 charity.
 
rivrrat said:
But what if you do not hold the opinion that no people should not be forced to not do nothing that does not result in the doing of nothingness?

What about then, huh?
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Would you like another reason to dislike me? I have on right here, if you want it.
 
Jerry said:
Hmm, now here you and I have common ground. If we are going to keep abortion, why should I be *forced against my will* to pay for it?

Her body, her choice, right? Well, my money, my choice. If I want to help young girls who choose to have an abortion but can't afford it, I will donate to an appropriate 501c3 charity.
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Well Jerry just chalk it up for something that we agree on. Quite simply I shouldnt pay but the option should be available.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Well Jerry just chalk it up for something that we agree on. Quite simply I shouldnt pay but the option should be available.
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Now if only we had a similar policy for funding the Social Security......
 
Jerry said:
So if you were to hold the opinion that a parent should be barred from stopping their minor child from seeking an abortion, you wouldn't force that opinion of yours onto the parent? Okay, I can respect that.
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A parent can try to stop the minor all they want. The parents just have the realize the resources will be available to conduct a safe and legal abortion if the minor choose to defy their parents request.

The state laws should be there to enforce that medical procedures and available and safe. Not to intervene with family relationships.
 
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